OT: Home brewing/distilling

Seinfeld

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Anyone ever tried the home brewing kits? I first started looking into this a couple months ago and I had planned to go the beer route, but then I started P90X and I'll just say that I don't need 5 gallons of beer sitting around the house. So then I thought about doing some whiskey, but that definitely seems to require a more extensive setup and then you have to deal with aging.

Any of you guys ever tried to do any of this and do you have any advice/recommendations for either? I may end up doing some beer and then giving away jugs for the holidays.
 

Hair of the Dawg

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I was in Saudi Arabia for a while. Scotch and bourbon were available on the black market at the tune of $80 a fifth, so we elected to make our own stuff. Beer was easy. We could buy something called Blue Ribbon Syrup on the open market. It was labled to be for "thickening vegatables" whatever that is. We would add water and yeast, let it sit for a while, and then bottle it and let it sit some more. It tasted like horse piss but it had alcohol in it and we got used to it. We also made wine. Grape juice was sold on the open market in bottles with a resealable cap made of ceramic and rubber. We would add water and yeast and let it sit in a dedicated garbage can. Then we would bottle it in the juice bottles (the bottles were also used for the homemade beer.) Explosions did occur. Some of the wine was excellent, while other batches made to the same recipe were terrible. You didnt know what you were going to get until you tasted it. The bad stuff was put on the back shelf for emergency purposes only. We would mix it with Pepsi or whatever to make it a little better. Yes we were desperate. We didn't live in a compound but the same Arabs responsible for enforcing the no drinking laws were also responsible for getting the project completed. It was an unwritten law that as long as we drank in our houses we were ok. However if we were caught outside under the influence, and some dubmasses were, our company had 24 hours to get the offender out of the Kingdom.
 

MaverickAG

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Distilling is probably going to cost you much more as even the cheapest unit is about $250. A decent size setup will cost you around $450-500. Also, it is still illegal to home distill but that doesn't stop most people.<div>
</div><div>Like what most said in this thread, pick up a book such as "How to Brew". It has a single chapter that will give you everything you need to know to do your first batch. If you enjoy it and want to go further you can move into partial-mash or all-grain brewing. Mr Beer kits are definitely as simple as it gets but the beer quality suffers. I would spend the $80 or so and pick up a basic homebrew kit and pick out an extract kit in your favorite style. You can do everything you need to do in a large stock pot on your stove.</div><div>
</div><div>It definitely a great hobby. If you are worried about large quantities of beer, don't be. Friends and family will gladly help you out with any excess inventory.</div>
 

Hair of the Dawg

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except the Mr Beer kits are a good starting point. You are not going to get your best batch from one, but it gives you an idea of the process before you spend money on something you end up not liking.

I wouldn't suggest anyone go out and invest in carboys, bottles, caps, cappers or any racking equipment until you see what takes place.

Get a simple kit, follow the steps, brew something easy andthen read through that website I posted and see if you want to go further.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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I like to use Midwest Supplies. Get a starter kit of some sort (I recommend this kit:http://www.midwestsupplies.com/brewing-starter-kit.htmlas you will want the autosiphon and the plastic carboy I find to be better than glass and useful for a secondary fermentation). You could go with a different kit, but if it doesn't have the autosiphon I highly recommend adding it to your order. If the recipe you get requires a secondary ferment, you will have to make sure the kit you get either has a carboy or that you add one to your order.<div>
</div><div>A brew kettle is needed too as you want dedicated brewing equipment. Don't use the pot from last nights beef stew to brew beer. Here are some in the 4-5 gallon range that you'll need starting outhttp://www.midwestsupplies.com/homebrewing-equipment/boiling-equipment/kettles.html?kettle_size=441). You will actually be cooking just 2-3 gallons at first, so don't get the 10 gallon pot. The cheapest pot will probably do. The rest of your liquid will be added in the beer bucket to cool it down. I normally use ice from the grocery store as it gets the beer down to temperature quickly and is normally microbe free (sanitization and sterilization are the keys to good brewing).<div>
</div><div>As for storing beer after it is done brewing there are two routes: kegging and bottling. I recommend bottling at first since you will probably be wanting to give some away and it is a cheaper route. You'll need good bottles. One problem is that most beer bottles for cheap beer are made with thinner glass. This is okay for forced carbonation that they use, but you will be doing bottle fermentation (putting a little bit of sugar in the beer right before bottling allows the yeast to produce the right amount of CO2). If you use a cheap beer bottle, it might shatter, making quite a mess and destroying your hard work. Either start collecting good beer bottles (look for thickness) or buy a few (http://www.midwestsupplies.com/homebrewing-equipment/bottling/bottles.html). You can reuse these until you lose them or they break, so wash them out after you drink. I let people know when I give them beer that I want the bottle back, but they're getting free beer so they don't complain too much. If you split the beer with someone else, your 25 or so bottles can easily last you a couple months (since you're doing p90X you might only be having a couple or so a week tops). The beer will last 3-6 months (keep it in a dark place). One problem is that bottle conditioned beer keeps fermenting so the beer might get funky after several months.</div><div>
</div><div>Lastly, find a good recipe kit (ale, that is). Here are several:http://www.midwestsupplies.com/homebrewing-ingredients/recipe-kits.html. I recommend upgrading to the Wyeast liquid yeast. It will get your fermentation started faster and you know before you add the yeast in if the yeast is still good. As for recipes, go with a style you like. A clone kit might leave you disappointed if you are expecting it to taste like the clone. Don't be afraid of starting out with a 'big' beer like a Belgian, an IPA, or a Stout. The lighter beers in many ways require more advanced skill and techniques. Make sure you're getting an extract kit, not a grain kit. Some of the extract kits have a small amount of grains and this is okay for a beginner brewer. Just don't get the all grain kit as it requires more time, skill, and expensive equipment.</div><div>
</div><div>Hope that wasn't too much. Happy brewing!</div> </div>
 

PBRME

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Exactly. I bought the Mr Beer kit a few years ago and decided it just wasn't worth the hassle after making a couple of batches.
 

patdog

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They'd ship boxes of grapes all over the country with instructions that said, do not crush, add yeast and sugar and let sit in a cool dry place for a few weeks.
 
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and the entire documentary would be totally applicable today. The similarities were eerie.

Also, I didn't know about the liquor boats that would anchor 3 miles off shore, and you could take a boat out to get some hooch. Awesome documentary series.
 

patdog

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They kept switching the times up and I never knew when it was going to be on. But I did read the book and it is one of the most interesting books I've ever read. There were a lot of things that I never would have guessed were interrelated (women's suffrage, the income tax amendment, Prohibition, racism, and the Great Depression). Hey, since it took a Great Depression to get alcohol legalized again, if the economy keeps going south you may get your wish with the weed. :)
 
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Sterling Archer.nafoom

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... thought beer and wine would still be legal. They didn't consider them "intoxicating spirits". But like you, I couldn't find them so just set the DVR to record all shows, and I've watched three so far.
 

abitadawg

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out of Nashville for homebrew supplies. Their prices are good, they usually ship same day, and ground shipping arrives overnight to most of Mississippi. I jumped in with all-grain recipes right off the bat and found it to be pretty foolproof. I usually do a 1 gallon batch to test out a recipe before going to a full 5 gallon batch. I've done several porters and belgian ales in the 9-11% alcohol range. Trying a Left Hand milk stout clone this week. The only problem I have had is letting the bottles sit long enough to properly carbonate. I usually test 1 a week to see how it is going and by the time it is about right, the gallon is gone.
 

The Peeper

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sterilize everything if possible. Boil some water or mix up some of the liquid stuff that bars use to swish glasses around in and drop in anything thats going to touch the beer, spoons, bottles, caps, glasses, other pans etc. I've got some friends that just run everything through the hot cycle in the dishwasher and say that does ok but its a lot of work and time to chance ruining a batch because you had a little rogue bacteria left in an old bottle. 2. Don't experiment with too much sugar trying to raise the alcohol content too much. I did that and long story short had bottles blowing up in my basement the 2nd week after I capped them. Otherwise, its fun and relatively easy, just time consuming. It takes me a couple hours on a Sat a.m. to brew it up and then another couple when I cap em. Try a Party Pig out too, eliminates having to deal with bottles.
 

fishwater99

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Sterling Archer said:
and the entire documentary would be totally applicable today. The similarities were eerie.

Also, <span style="font-weight: bold;">I didn't know about the liquor boats that would anchor 3 miles off shore, and you could take a boat out to get some hooch</span>. Awesome documentary series.
 

BehrDawg

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Me and my buddies tried making wine when we were seniors. There was 6 of us and we attempted to ferment the fruit in a new, unused gasoline can. When we were finally finished "making" it, the concoction looked like red melted sorbet. We drank it, and all 6 of us were hospitalized for a couple of days. In-fact, the local media found out about it and the story was published in the local newspaper. Teenage years...damn I miss them.
 

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So far, it's not as challenging as I expected. I can tell you, though, that you need at least one person to help you the first time or two. As others have stated, it's not very expensive. I went with a basic pale ale kit, ran about $40 for 5 gallons of beer.