OT: Horrible situation in UVA/Louisville game

DJ Spanky

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UVA runner hit and motionless on the field. Immediately called out the cart. Taken off on a stretcher, no movement. Prayers for the young man.
 

mdk02

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Memories of the RU - L'ville game the year after EL was injured. L'Ville player suffered a similar injury and the entire RU team, coaches and staff stepped slightly onto the field and took a knee. Huge positive comments in the Louisville papers.
 

ashokan

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RB put his head down just before contact.
Broke #1 rule in football
Spine/neck have no compression strength from top hits
Coaches tell players "see what you hit" but they don't always tell them why.
My JV coach would stop practice and yell if someone put their head down .
"You want me to tell you stories about players who hit with their heads down?!"


 
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wheezer

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RB put his head down just before contact.
Broke #1 rule in football
Spine/neck have no compression strength from top hits
Coaches tell players "see what you hit" but they don't always tell them why.
My JV coach would stop practice and yell if someone put their head down .
"You want me to tell you stories about players who hit with their heads down?!"



Back in the mid 70,s I worked with a Clifton high school football player, who demonstrated to me how he was instructed
To hit with the crown of his helmet
 

MADHAT1

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Thanks for passing on the good news. He is a *very* lucky young man.
Great news
Virginia running back Perris Jones has regained movement in all of his extremities after being injured during Thursday’s football game at Louisville. During the game’s third quarter, Jones was injured while being tackled after catching a pass and starting to run up field. Jones was taken by ambulance to the University of Louisville Medical Center. He will remain there Thursday night.

Jones took a serious hit to the head after making a catch in the third quarter of Thursday's game. He remained down on the field motionless for several minutes before eventually being carted off the field and taken by ambulance to the University of Louisville Medical Center.





https://www.si.com/college/virginia...ns-movement-in-extremities-after-scary-injury
 

ashokan

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Back in the mid 70,s I worked with a Clifton high school football player, who demonstrated to me how he was instructed
To hit with the crown of his helmet

OMG tackling instruction became so bad in the 70s and on.
Players were being taught using helmet as a turnover weapon.
Anyone with a kid playing should get the youtube vids with proper form

Don't rely on coaches because there is "dispersal of responsibility" and varsity coaches assume JV coaches taught the techniques. The JV head coach assumes the position coach taught the techniqies. In college, the coaches assume the HS coaches taught the proper saftey issues when they might not have. I see bad tackling in college games all the time

But along with proper form I would say to emphasize "NEVER using the top of the head" for anything - explain why. Its one thing to know a proper techniques (can be a lot of info) and its another to know what can wreck you specifically (quick info).
 

mdk02

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OMG tackling instruction became so bad in the 70s and on.
Players were being taught using helmet as a turnover weapon.
Anyone with a kid playing should get the youtube vids with proper form

Don't rely on coaches because there is "dispersal of responsibility" and varsity coaches assume JV coaches taught the techniques. The JV head coach assumes the position coach taught the techniqies. In college, the coaches assume the HS coaches taught the proper saftey issues when they might not have. I see bad tackling in college games all the time

But along with proper form I would say to emphasize "NEVER using the top of the head" for anything - explain why. Its one thing to know a proper techniques (can be a lot of info) and its another to know what can wreck you specifically (quick info).

Not everywhere. I got the same "See what you hit as you did" in the 70's
 

Retired711

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OMG tackling instruction became so bad in the 70s and on.
Players were being taught using helmet as a turnover weapon.
Anyone with a kid playing should get the youtube vids with proper form

Don't rely on coaches because there is "dispersal of responsibility" and varsity coaches assume JV coaches taught the techniques. The JV head coach assumes the position coach taught the techniqies. In college, the coaches assume the HS coaches taught the proper saftey issues when they might not have. I see bad tackling in college games all the time

But along with proper form I would say to emphasize "NEVER using the top of the head" for anything - explain why. Its one thing to know a proper techniques (can be a lot of info) and its another to know what can wreck you specifically (quick info).
What is saddest to me is that there are still fans who think that hits like that are great, despite the risk of injury to the tackler and the ball carrier. Probably those fans would have enjoyed watching gladiators fight wild animals and each other in the Roman Colosseum.
 

mdk02

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What is saddest to me is that there are still fans who think that hits like that are great, despite the risk of injury to the tackler and the ball carrier. Probably those fans would have enjoyed watching gladiators fight wild animals and each other in the Roman Colosseum.

They are probably just as excited by a powerful shoulder/forearm decleating but aren't "sophisticated" enough to understand the difference.
 

BeantownKnight

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My only question - as I was watching the game - is why didn't the refs even look at the replay to determine if targeting was involved. They certainly had the time to do so (as play was stopped for several minutes). Perhaps they did and just didn't announce it?! But, if those were B1G refs, they would CERTAINLY have looked at it to determine targeting.
 
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Retired711

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My only question - as I was watching the game - is why didn't the refs even look at the replay to determine if targeting was involved. They certainly had the time to do so (as play was stopped for several minutes). Perhaps they did and just didn't announce it?! But, if those were B1G refs, they would CERTAINLY have looked at it to determine targeting.
If you look at the video, it appears that, just as @ashokan says, the ballcarrier dropped his head before contact. So the tacker didn't do anything that could be considered targeting.
 
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Retired711

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Might not sound like it but that's actually good news. He's almost certainly done with football, but he will have an otherwise normal life.
It sounds to me like *very* good news -- he's not paralyzed! I wonder what kind of surgery they were able to do.