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I googled it because I am DEFINITELY not an investment expert. So QQQ is an ETF (Exchange Traded Fund) which is like a mutual fund in that it tries to keep a diverse set of holdings within a particular market segment. So in that case it is more betting on the general than specific.

A little further research there are multiple products with the same plan as QQQ. Here is a article from Kiplinger about 14 funds based on the NASDAQ100. So even that has multiple options and some might be better than others.
I typically buy VUG as my main ETF, and it's similar to QQQ. I think QQQ is more tech-weighted, but it's been a very strong performer historically.
 
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Power fade = slice?

I played with a TaylorMade R-9 up until a month or so ago. Then I bought a TaylorMade Qi10 (it was on sale, and about $250 less than the Qi35. I'm frugal). If the Qi10 is any longer than the R-9, it's only a couple of yards. I'm still getting used to the sound it makes - carbon fiber vs metal of some sort.
The ones I got are Callaway AI Smoke max driver and 3 wood and AI Smoke irons 4-AW. The driver definitely makes a different sound than the sharp ping of a metal face.
 
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I typically buy VUG as my main ETF, and it's similar to QQQ. I think QQQ is more tech-weighted, but it's been a very strong performer historically.
Taking a quick look at the top owned positions, NVDA and MSFT make up a significant amount of both QQQ and VUG, and that goes for Invesco and Vanguard products discussed here generally.
 

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There's $100 Billion dollars about to be spent in Mississippi alone on AI data centers between now and 2029. Very large, well known, global companies. I've been in on the development meetings on three of them. It's not a fad, and it isn't going away. As a side note, the yearly revenue generated by those developments that the state will get will single-handedly save PERS, and then some. The yearly revenue that the counties and schools those developments are located in will cause them to see growth like they've never seen.
 
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I'm with you. I think the next 10-15 years is going to be amazing.

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I went through a vendor call yesterday on a new AI based product. Like any good product, it aims to solve a problem. This particular problem is a overly manual task that can take weeks to complete. With this company's AI, a user can snap a picture, and the process can be 95% completed in five minutes. It just needs to be verified by a human.

They are so confident in the product, that they have a guarantee that it will increase customers to the point that it covers the cost of the product (which is substantial) or you don't pay.

Its the best product I've ever seen in its field, and this is happening in every industry.
You think humanity will survive another 10-15 years?
 

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I am only speaking from my experience with neural networks in graduate school and my usage of tools. AI has surprised me as well, often that surprise is being blatantly wrong. Consider this, there is research and companies out there that exist solely to poison AI data to force models into providing incorrect results. AI engine's primary usefulness will be standing one up inside of a company where training data is tightly controlled and geared toward providing automated analysis on corporate data. Public facing AI models are useful, but not trustworthy. If you lean on AI to be the expert, you will get burned at some point. If you are the expert and lean on AI as a helpful tool, you can benefit greatly.

ETA: good example https://www.reuters.com/legal/gover...-attorneys-case-over-ai-citations-2025-07-24/
Local DFW sports personality said he kept messing with chat gpt over the weekend about some subject and it admitted it lied to him to get him to move on. Sounds like a bit and I didn't look into it further. It was 105.3 the fan in Dallas and he claimed he had screenshots to prove it.
 

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The number of execs pushing to bring AI in is crazy. I sit down with them to provide advice and quickly realize that their primary motivation is FOMO. I often end the conversation by asking them to at least do one thing before we move forward. Provide me with one success criteria/expected outcome/problem that we plan to solve for the business with AI. They always have to go chew on that for a bit. It's odd. AI has people raring to go without good reason while other corporate risks persist with clear reasons for needing a tech solution but no motivation to do so.
They want to queue up the RIFs as soon as possible
 
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Sure, but by definition only 10-20% or whatever are going to be great, 60-70% are going to be mediocre, and 10-20% are at the lowest end.

What's the plan for that 70-90% of workers? Do I want to know?
No....but if you want a sneak peak just review Jack Welch's top grading program
 

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Look this has been known and proven for decades. The best way for the average investor to earn money in the market is to invest continuously over time in a broad market, low cost, passively managed fund.

I had a friend of mine the other day come up to me and brag about how he had 800K in cash and then the market dipped, so he put in the S&P 500. He had that money sitting in a bank account for eight years. Yes he made 80k buying the dip. But if he had had it in the whole time he would have made 800k

Yes you might get lucky buying a single stock or even a single sector. Sure I missed out on bitcoin, but that's fine. Many early investors in bitcoin lost everything when their hard drive crashed or their exchange collapsed.

So put your money in the broad market. I have most of mine in the S&P 500. The rest in government bonds. As long as the US economy doesn't collapse, I will make market returns. Nobody has ever beaten the market over time. NOBODY. So just put it out there and let it ride.
 

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revenge of the nerds GIF
 
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Sure I missed out on bitcoin, but that's fine.
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People have been saying they missed bitcoin since the beginning. They've all been wrong.

It is still the best money in existence, with a very low adoption rate relative to the global population.

In fact, from a risk-adjusted perspective, it has never been a better time to accumulate bitcoin.
 
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It is going to take me a long time to acquire 1 bitcoin, with what it is trading at.
 

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It is going to take me a long time to acquire 1 bitcoin, with what it is trading at.
There will only ever be 21 million bitcoin.

There are 23.8 million USD millionaires in the US alone. What happens when they figure out that they all can’t have 1.00 BTC? Imagine the psychology of being a millionaire and not being able to have a whole bitcoin.

So having a whole bitcoin will always be a very rare thing.

And that’s before you consider a lot of people already have more than one.
 

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Look this has been known and proven for decades. The best way for the average investor to earn money in the market is to invest continuously over time in a broad market, low cost, passively managed fund.

I had a friend of mine the other day come up to me and brag about how he had 800K in cash and then the market dipped, so he put in the S&P 500. He had that money sitting in a bank account for eight years. Yes he made 80k buying the dip. But if he had had it in the whole time he would have made 800k

Yes you might get lucky buying a single stock or even a single sector. Sure I missed out on bitcoin, but that's fine. Many early investors in bitcoin lost everything when their hard drive crashed or their exchange collapsed.

So put your money in the broad market. I have most of mine in the S&P 500. The rest in government bonds. As long as the US economy doesn't collapse, I will make market returns. Nobody has ever beaten the market over time. NOBODY. So just put it out there and let it ride.
You had a friend who had $800k in a bank account for 8 years? What the 17
 

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I’ll let you in on a secret, AI is not a fad.
Agree not a fad but that doesn’t mean dump everything and pile into a couple AI stocks. Diversification is still key as well as traditional ETFs. Good companies will leverage AI and will continue to be good investments. The implication is market wide, so no need to do anything special IMO. That’s like selling Apple when Amazon started offering more than books.
 
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Agree not a fad but that doesn’t mean dump everything and pile into a couple AI stocks. Diversification is still key as well as traditional ETFs. Good companies will leverage AI and will continue to be good investments. The implication is market wide, so no need to do anything special IMO. That’s like selling Apple when Amazon started offering more than books.
This is my take as well. Berkshire Hathaway and Chase and whoever else are a helluva lot more likely to uncover value in AI than me. I'm going to keep more or less buying the market.
 
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Agree not a fad but that doesn’t mean dump everything and pile into a couple AI stocks. Diversification is still key as well as traditional ETFs. Good companies will leverage AI and will continue to be good investments. The implication is market wide, so no need to do anything special IMO. That’s like selling Apple when Amazon started offering more than books.
This. I would only add that there are several companies who have been dumping billions into "AI" (there is no AI, just LLM, but oh well) with not much to show for it and they're already beginning to surrender their positions. LLM tech has use cases and they will emerge, but it's far too early for me to bet on who. Your tolerance may vary.
 

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You had a friend who had $800k in a bank account for 8 years? What the 17

You had a friend who had $800k in a bank account for 8 years? What the 17
You had a friend who had $800k in a bank account for 8 years? What the 17
Yeah a strange combination of smart and hard work meeting fear. He started buying run down houses and fixing them up to rent I guess 15 years ago. He did all the work himself. But eventually he got tired of dealing with tenants, so he sold them all about 8 years ago. But he was just scared to lose it.
 
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People have been saying they missed bitcoin since the beginning. They've all been wrong.

It is still the best money in existence, with a very low adoption rate relative to the global population.

In fact, from a risk-adjusted perspective, it has never been a better time to accumulate bitcoin.
Bitcoin isn't the best money out there. You cannot pay taxes with bitcoin, you cannot buy oil with bitcoin. nations do not hold strategic reserves of bitcoin.
 

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Sure, but by definition only 10-20% or whatever are going to be great, 60-70% are going to be mediocre, and 10-20% are at the lowest end.

What's the plan for that 70-90% of workers? Do I want to know?
My bar for exceeding mediocre may be lower than others’. I’m really thinking of somewhere around half the workforce not being a walking liability.

But yes, a big chunk of the workforce is suddenly going to be unable to compete with a AI utilized by a better employee for non-physical tasks.
 

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Bitcoin isn't the best money out there. You cannot pay taxes with bitcoin, you cannot buy oil with bitcoin. nations do not hold strategic reserves of bitcoin.
The core problem bitcoin addresses isn’t transactional convenience. It’s monetary soundness. It offers scarcity, resistance to inflation, and protection from debasement. Whether or not you can pay taxes or buy oil with it doesn't change its effectiveness as hard, sound money.

Sure, bitcoin can power payments, and that might grow in the future, but that’s secondary. Its primary role, right now, is as a store of value, a decentralized digital anchor immune to the erosion of fiat currencies.

Contrary to the claim that nations do not hold strategic reserves of bitcoin, several do:
  • The United States has officially established a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, holding around 198,000 BTC. It’s the world’s largest known government bitcoin holding.
  • El Salvador, which made bitcoin legal tender in 2021, holds over 6,200 BTC.
  • Bhutan has accumulated over 11,000–13,000 BTC by mining with hydroelectric power, making it one of the largest state-level holdings relative to GDP.
  • Other governments such as the UK, Ukraine, and China also have non-trivial bitcoin reserves.
  • In total, governments nationwide now hold over 460,000 BTC, or about 2.3% of bitcoin’s total supply.
So, the notion that “nations do not hold bitcoin” isn’t accurate. There’s growing institutional recognition of its strategic value.
 

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I think a lot of folks conflate “LLMs” (Large Language Models) with true AI, largely due to marketing by LLM providers.

LLMs (ChatGPT, Copilot, Gemini, Perplexity) are all over the dаmn place and for the most part, really 17ing stupid. They’re only as good as the information they’re being fed and the programming behind them.

Gemini told me the other day that there’s no record of Urban Meyer ever losing to Mississippi State.

I’ve yet to see an AI that is truly self-sufficient, can process independently of its programming, and can improve on its own.
I'm an AI Developer. Checkout Grok Heavy or Claude 4.1, GPT5... It's writing 60% of my code today and uses bleeding edge machine learning techniques.

These GenAI tools are a reflection of yourself. If you haven't seen it improve upon itself, you're not asking the right questions. Prompt Engineering is the future for tech jobs.
 

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One industry pundit put it like this. We are 3 pitches into the first inning ing with AI and the revolution is just starting.

The scope and breadth of these projects are “mind bottling”😀. Heck Amazon is building 2 data centers in the the Jackson area and investing 10 billion. It’s coming boys, get your money invested yesterday and hang on. So far my biggest % growth YTD stocks are Astera Labs, AMD, OKLO, TSLA, MRVL and NVidia. Just getting some in all Mag 7 is a good play right now.

by the way, check out the HGRAF thread in Tigerdroppings for an interesting spec play.