OT: It's time to take those MoFo's out.

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RebelRH

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Still court. He was ordered to pay her millions for his lies. Imagine still supporting a rapist because you exhaustedly look for excuses to do so.
I thought the civil judgment was that the jury did not believe that he raped her but they did believe he sexually assaulted her. To me the judgment was based on he said, she said and they decided what they wanted to believe. Not supporting either side. That was my understanding.
 

grinningmule

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Still court. He was ordered to pay her millions for his lies. Imagine still supporting a rapist because you exhaustedly look for excuses to do so.
Imagine calling someone a rapist as fact when no such fact exists. Imagine being so stupid, lazy or intellectually dishonest that you spew nonsense without worrying about if it is factual or truthful. I'm calling you a c*cksucker but that is wrong of me so allow me to apologize. "o_Hot Rock, I apologize for calling you a c*cksucker. I have no proof that you suck c*ck so until I can prove otherwise, I apologize."
 

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Tom Massie and Ro Konana are heroes in my eyes. They are the few fighting to get information out. The way the Trump has acted tells me all I need to know. He is in them and it is not good.
I like those two....not everything about either but I like them. The watch out is I believe they know more about why some of the information has been suppressed than what they are willing to share. They look like heroes even though they know certain information will never be released.
 
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To the original point of this thread, taking out the cartels is very complicated. I have done a good deal of research into this topic, and here are a few issues. First, we helped establish them. They served as the go-between us and the contras. Yes, the war on drugs guy, Ronald Reagan, is one of the biggest people to be blamed for the cartels. The second issue we have is that when you go to war with the cartels, you are going to war with Mexico. The cartels own the place. Third, you will create a power vacuum by taking them out. Taking out the current cartel network only opens the door to worse people taking their place. If you really want to take them out, we need to legalize drugs in the USA. Until we have that conversation, military action is not necessary.
Great explanation of why they still exist. They exist because of us not despite us. We haven't taken them out because we can't it's because its better to keep them under some semblance of control rather than leave a power vacuum in a poor country on our southern border. When we make surgical moves against certain cartels it's because they think they don't have to play the game. Then we strike and the others get back in line until it happens again then rinse and repeat. Oh, and like you kind of said.....control the cartels and you control Mexico.
 
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Trump is a buffoon. He's known for it. He says outlandish things. It doesn't whitewash documented facts.

Virtually every politician on both sides of the aisle sat silent on this until the last year when they thought there was an opportunity to get Trump with it. They never thought it would ultimately be released, so they could treat it like his taxes: "MUH HE'S HIDING SOMETHING." Now that about 6 million documents have been released (pretty much everything that a court isn't blocking), the best they have is a couple of old photos of Trump that prove nothing and some direct implications of many democrats. It validates the common sense that you should have over this issue, which is if Trump was guilty of anything Epstein related, it would've been released under the Biden regime. But nah, we can't have that because the unverified allegation of wrongdoing is far more effective than actual proof. And a willing media will gladly help push that. Trump calls that effort a hoax and it's exactly what it is. It's no different than calling him a Nazi just for enforcing the law. It's low IQ BS.

This isn't an endorsement of Trump. He's his own worst enemy at times and there's a lot to be unhappy about with him. But all you clowns pushing the epstein thing are only showing that you're biased sheep with no agenda other than "this time maybe we've got him." Spoiler alert: you don't.
I’m glad you typed what I was thinking so I didn’t have to. Bottom line is if there is any evidence that incriminates ANYONE of meddling with child trafficking, SRA, and child sacrifice they should be quickly put to death and rot in Hell. Unfortunately nothing will come out of this. They won’t convict themselves. These people are Baal worshipers. If anyone wants to help rescue and rehabilitate children look into Kaleb House. https://www.kalebhouse.org/
 

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The files were sealed by the courts until recently as it was an open investigation.

Why do people love to believe things that benefit themselves instead of finding out what really happened?

No doubt. If there's anything I've learned from what has been disclosed to date is that there is a world of wealthy and powerful people that were real chummy with a known sex criminal. And real casual with how the communicated with him via email. Lots of nudge nudge wink wink.

Guy was tied up with prostitution kids back in 2008 yet folks continued to want to party and associate with him up until he went to jail the second time. We know now he never stopped. I can't believe that many of these people didn't know it. I hope those people don't get burned and learn from their poor character judgment, but I'm skeptical there are many. At best I believe many ignored it and continued to associate bc of his money and contacts - Epstein seemed to be a very transactional guy in most aspects of his life - so was his circle. At worst, they participated or actively enabled.

This transcends politics and is a story that goes back decades and multiple federal and state administrations, if not longer. There must be a long road of coverup, back scratching, and turning a blind eye. Ds, Rs, whatever. Fortunately for me, I don't have politicians or people of power and influence on a pedestal that I need to protect. Burn it down.
I think if you think deeper on what you just wrote and remove the politics and the horrendous crimes the transactional guy committed it may start making more sense but I could be wrong.
 
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