It can be less expensive, as long as it's tested to hold up to x amount of use and there is a backup system in place.
What good is wireless controller only if you are at the bottom of the ocean and the UP button isn't working???
OT: Missing Titanic Sub
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What good is wireless controller only if you are at the bottom of the ocean and the UP button isn't working???
Yes video game controllers in particular ‘Logitech’ controllers are poorly engineered if you will. As someone who has played video games all my life I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve replaced controllers due to buttons sticking, popping out, and simply no longer working.
Keep in mind, they didn’t even pony up for actual PlayStation controllers, these were $29.99 knockoffs available at Walmart. Yes, there’s a HUGE problem with controlling a vessel containing people in a life death situation with nothing more than a knockoff PlayStation controller to steer the thing. I’d say the fact that this is happening is pretty clear evidence that that alone is a GIANT red flag!
I just don't get it personally. Forget about the risk factors for a moment - you physically can't get out and walk the ocean floor and actually touch the titanic - which would be quite amazing I would think. It's like paying a huge amount to visit the statue of liberty but all you can do is look at it through your car window from the parking lot. I don't mean to insult the folks who did it in a very scary situation - I just don't honestly understand why you'd spend 250k other than some weird bragging rights. And that's putting aside the risk factors.
This is more like taking a helicopter ride past the Statue ...or a roadless part of Alaska you won't see any other way.
This is absolutely crazy.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ndant-famous-Titanic-couple-died-arm-arm.html
The pressure at the site of the Titanic is 390 times more than at the surface. Thats an insane amount and there is nothing tame about it. The further down they went, the higher those pressures became. Did I hear the sub ws not designed for over 1600 feet or something near? Going another 10,000+ feet more than it's designed for would be absolute stupidity. I'll guess a window blowout or the whole sub crushed by the surrounding pressure on descent.
Yeah, but you're paying 250K for someone else to take care of all that. It's not like commissioning and captaining your own vessel.
You expect to dive down, see some cool history, and come on back up to everyday life.
Wife of CEO Stockton Rush is a direct descendant of 2 people who died on the Titanic. 
. You can't make this up.
. You can't make this up.
This is absolutely crazy.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ndant-famous-Titanic-couple-died-arm-arm.htmlWife of CEO Stockton Rush is a direct descendant of 2 people who died on the Titanic.
a small, tiny, miniscule sliver of hope.
What hope. Oxygen has run out and that vehicle is not able to bring it to the surface. This is no longer a rescue mission.
As @yessir321 points outs, yes some controllers are poorly engineered. However, like most things in life there is good and bad. The first gen Nintendo Switch controller developed drift after a few months, but I still have a 360 controller that my kid uses that is older then he is. The current PS5 controllers are pretty awesome as well. Logitech, 8bit-do and other 3rd parties are hit and miss.
Now, there are uses for those in various applications that I have no problem with using gaming controllers. I would say a submarine isn't one of them.
exactly. isnt this what robots are for?
One thing I don't get is why people would want to be locked into this space. I don't like being in an elevator going up a few floors with more than 2 people, I can't imagine being in a space like this where you can barely move with 4 others.
Just speaking from a controller aspect, most of , if not all wireless controllers have a manual capability where you can plug it in. I saw one video of them working inside of the sub and it was essentially several computers that one would assume actually manages the inputs from the controller. I would hope that they designed a way to plug in and control the sub manually at the very least. Again this is pure speculation and common sense. I could be totally wrong. Praying for a miracle for these folks.
Yea I wondered why they would seal it from the outside. Could it be a panic thing where they fear someone would panic and attempt to open the hatch underwater? Could it be a pressure thing where it needs to be bolted from the outside which keeps the bolts pressured down instead of backing the bolts out?One thing I don't get is why people would want to be locked into this space. I don't like being in an elevator going up a few floors with more than 2 people, I can't imagine being in a space like this where you can barely move with 4 others.
That's the thing I can't wrap my head around. We are talking Billionaires. Why would you go out of your way to make yourself uncomfortable sitting cross legged for 10 hours, when you could buy the exclusive experience for $1M. These are the same people that pay a washed up rocker multiple millions to play at their birthday party. From a risk perspective you would think a buyout would be recommended.One thing I don't get is why people would want to be locked into this space. I don't like being in an elevator going up a few floors with more than 2 people, I can't imagine being in a space like this where you can barely move with 4 others.
The hatch, by necessity, has to be constructed in such as way that the pressure of the depths helps to push it closed, so that it uses the pressure to maintain a better seal.
This is, FWIW, the exact opposite of how aircraft doors work, where the pressure *inside* the cabin pushes the doors against their seals. It's also the reason why you cannot physically open an aircraft door when it's at altitude and the cabin is pressurised.
To design such a hatch so that it opens from the inside requires "through-hulls" (technically "through-hatch") through which the handle mechanisms are run. This introduces an additional point of weakness / leakage. Combined with the fact that there's no reason to open the hatch from the inside, it's an easy call from a design perspective to have a hatch that only opens from the outside.
it's like exploring the Hudson from the Lincoln tunnel, except the Lincoln tunnel experience probably cost smore per minute over the whole expedition.
Yeah, I don’t know why, but I keep thinking that too. What was supposed to be a 7 hour day trip with maybe one bathroom visit for each person has now turned into days of unshowered people and human waste.
I'm with you but others aren't bothered.One thing I don't get is why people would want to be locked into this space. I don't like being in an elevator going up a few floors with more than 2 people, I can't imagine being in a space like this where you can barely move with 4 others.
C'mon guys, keep the politics out of this thread.
I think lack of oxygen is of more concern at this point than human waste. Anyway, if they're still alive they're probably not conscious.
If they are found and not alive I hope it was a catastrophic failure at the onset it was over quickly.
implosion at that depth is 19,000 mph or 8300 meters per second. They'd be jelly before they even knew it which is most likely what happened. Materials, design, maintenance, technical know how of the crew, etc is all on the wrong side here
CNN reporter mentioned talking to somebody from a submersible organization who said there are only 10 submersibles in the world that can make that type of dive and this is the only one not certified.
Whitebus, isn't the Coast Guard looking for it?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ast-guard-search-for-titanic-sub/70342718007/
I guess I understand the distinction you made.
But I think I agree with Rutgers95 that maybe our government shouldn't be spending so much money to search for people who did something uber-risky for kicks...
It has been reported that they found a debris field on the sea floor this morning. In an hour or so they will make an updated report about it.
Saw an air disaster show about the outward opening cargo hatches on the DC-10. As you can guess by the show title, a flaw associated with this design caused a disaster.