OT: Name a Movie or Series better than the Book.

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I’ve not found one. Or at least I can’t remember one. I think it comes from two things. 1. Reading is such a personal experience where you create everything-visuals, sounds, etc and you are immersed while movies try to do all that for you and are therefore less compelling. 2. You just can’t put everything from a complicated novel into a couple hours on the screen and there’s no way to get the nuance without a narrator which is clunky and again not personal.
How I've always thought about the book vs movie question as well for exactly those 2 points.
Funny that several have brought up Jaws as that has always been my poster child. Book had a lot more going on and the shark was simply part of several storylines. Obviously the movie was all about the shark but to your second point, if you're trying to fit the story for a "summer blockbuster" into 2 hours, they certainly picked the right "character"/storyline to emphasize.
 
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Hunt For Red October

The movie compacts the story some which I think makes it work well.

The movie did a really good job, but there's some stuff in there that's not as accurate as the book. Baldwin was OK as Jack Ryan, but I think Harrison Ford is better.

Moneyball.

The book is interesting but the movie is more entertaining.
The movie is one of the remarkable achievements ever. To turn that book into a movie with all that depth of characters is pretty amazing. (Even if it treats Art Howe very shabbily.)
Dune.... and as lo-fi (still great effects for the time) as lynch's version was. Like it best.
Lynch's director's cut is better than the original, but I think that movie falls short of the book. The new Dune, Part I, was really good, and I just watched Part II (missed it in the theater). It takes a pretty big departure from the book I haven't figured out why they did it yet.
 

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Silence of the Lambs - movie is better

Red Dragon - book is better

Hannibal - haven’t read the book but the movie was not particularly well-done

Hannibal Rising - haven’t seen the movie (if there is one) and haven’t read the book

All books by Thomas Harris (from Mississippi BTW)
Hannibal Rising was a pretty awesome movie. Might be my favorite out of all of them.
 

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How I've always thought about the book vs movie question as well for exactly those 2 points.
Funny that several have brought up Jaws as that has always been my poster child. Book had a lot more going on and the shark was simply part of several storylines. Obviously the movie was all about the shark but to your second point, if you're trying to fit the story for a "summer blockbuster" into 2 hours, they certainly picked the right "character"/storyline to emphasize.
Moby Dick, possibly the greatest American novel, would be a good example. There is absolutely no way to make a movie true to that book. There is soooooo much going on in there that is not just some obsessed guy chasing a rare whale that no movie could ever capture.
 

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Lord of the rings(Not the Hobbit). I tried reading the books multiple times and I never could get interested.

Basically any Tom Clancy movie. I never loved his overly descriptive style and reading his books always felt like a chore.
 

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Moby Dick, possibly the greatest American novel, would be a good example. There is absolutely no way to make a movie true to that book. There is soooooo much going on in there that is not just some obsessed guy chasing a rare whale that no movie could ever capture.
The true story “in the heart of the sea” is a great movie and book
 
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Shawshank Redemption
- The movie tells the story in a way I like better than the book. I find it more exciting, more believable and simply more satisfying.

I say that as a big fan of Steven King's work. I'm not much into the haints and boogers genre but the way he works with words is brilliant. I am a writer myself and see much to emulate in the way he does his thing. The four-novella collection that contains the Shawshank story (Different Seasons) also contains the stories on which the movies Stand By Me and Apt Pupil were based, and I do like the book version much better with those, as I do with most all books vs. movies.
 
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"I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell"

Book was alright - movie was hilarious.
 

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I read King and Crichton for years and enjoyed some of it. Lately I have realized a lot of it is just not very good. Timeline for instance was just full of internal inconsistencies, flat, unlikable characters, and overly contrived situations. The Dark Tower series turned into a self-indulging masterb***** session for King.

Discovered McCarthy a few years back and he's the absolute GOAT for me. Blood Meridian, Border Trilogy, the Appalachian period stuff is all tremendous. There's plenty of it that I don't know if I could just sit and read, but the audiobooks are great and prevent you from getting bogged down in the long sentences and lack of punctuation. The only thing of his I don't care for is in the Border Trilogy when characters randomly give a 20 page essay on their philosophy of humanity.
 
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Lonesome Dove wasn't better, but it definitely was the book brought to life.
Lonesome Dove is especially interesting in this discussion because it was first written as a screenplay. McMurtry wrote it with John Wayne and contemporaries in mind, and it just didn't get produced. When he turned it into a novel, he created what I think of as possibly THE great American novel -- certainly the best fiction on Texana I have read.
 

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Lord of the rings(Not the Hobbit). I tried reading the books multiple times and I never could get interested.

Basically any Tom Clancy movie. I never loved his overly descriptive style and reading his books always felt like a chore.
The Lord of the Rings movies were terrible if you have read the books. If you hadn't then they might be ok.
 

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The Lord of the Rings movies were terrible if you have read the books. If you hadn't then they might be ok.
No doubt the books are better. However, Jackson did a good job with the movie trilogy. I am one that couldn't put the books down. My wife and daughters, who read much more than I do, couldn't get through even The Hobbit. They are written as history and maybe that hurts their ability to get into the story.
 

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No doubt the books are better. However, Jackson did a good job with the movie trilogy. I am one that couldn't put the books down. My wife and daughters, who read much more than I do, couldn't get through even The Hobbit. They are written as history and maybe that hurts their ability to get into the story.
I've never been able to put them down. I first read them 45 years or so ago and still read them from time to time. The movies were well done, but I'm just so familiar with the books they are hard to watch. Jackson did make some major changes to the story at times that just didn't sit well with me.
 
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No doubt the books are better. However, Jackson did a good job with the movie trilogy. I am one that couldn't put the books down. My wife and daughters, who read much more than I do, couldn't get through even The Hobbit. They are written as history and maybe that hurts their ability to get into the story.
Not sure why I didn’t enjoy the books. It’s been about 10 years since I’ve tried. There will be a day when I try again. I did enjoy the Hobbit book though.
 

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Silence of the Lambs - movie is better

Red Dragon - book is better

Hannibal - haven’t read the book but the movie was not particularly well-done

Hannibal Rising - haven’t seen the movie (if there is one) and haven’t read the book

All books by Thomas Harris (from Mississippi BTW)
Have you seen Man Hunter? The first movie adaptation of Red Dragon? Michael Mann did the movie and it was very Crime Story/Miami Vice-ish. William Peterson played Will Crawford and several members from the Crime Story cast were in it. I loved the movie due to the action and the cast but it left out a lot of details that were included in the book and in the Red Dragon movie. For it, you kind of need to read the book then watch the movie to fully understand everything that is going on and why its happening that way.

ETA: Brian Cox plays Lecter in Man Hunter and his Lecter is 10 times more terrifying that Hopkins because he hides it but you know it's there. Plus, the guy playing Dollarhyde almost makes you feel sorry for him a couple of times once you know his full story like which I said wasn't explained in this movie.
 
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Forrest Gump was a great movie. Liked it better than the book, which is rare. The line I always use is…”Stupid is as stupid does.”
 
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Move vs Book comparison on King's longer novels is often not oranges-to-oranges because, with the long ones, he writes extra long on purpose, intentionally wallowing in the joy of a very long telling of a complex and varied story. Michael Crichton wrote books that were ready-made to become movies. There's really no way satisfactory to me to translate The Stand into theater movie form.

I haven't even attempted The Stand's miniseries though, because I've come to love the book so much. I'm afraid the characters cast for the series are so fundamentally different from the way I've visualized them for my own read, I would be aggressively off-put anyway.
 

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Lonesome Dove wasn't better, but it definitely was the book brought to life.
I agree but they butchered Dead Man's Walk, Commanche Moon and Streets of Laredo converting them to movies. Reading Dead Man's Walk was like reading a Stephen King novel. The Indians were more vicious than depicted in the movie. I'm glad they made Lonesome Dove into a series. I loved reading all four of these books and wasn't impressed with the other movie versions.
 

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I can't think of a Crichton movie better than the book. Timeline was one of my favorites by him, but the movie was abysmal.

Sphere was decent, but there's just no way you can truly translate the fear and distrust from the written pages into a two hour film. The cast and crew did a good job trying though.

Speaking of Crichton, if you fans haven't read them I recommend the two published posthumously: Pirate Latitudes and Dragon Teeth. The former feels a bit incomplete, but the latter is fantastic.



One could argue the Lord of the Rings trilogy is better than the books, if you prefer to skip pages upon pages of poetry and lineages, but you'd be wrong. The books are still better, but I can at least entertain the debate.
The Sphere was a great book until I reached the end. After detailing how they had to wear pressure suits to prevent being crushed by the water at depth they go outside the Sphere without protective gear. I was hoping they would correct it with the movie but they didn't. Think about the Titanic research vehicle that imploded not to mention the temperature of the water.
 

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I have issues with Dan Brown books. There are huge logic holes, but they are worth a read. I grade the movies basically the same. Worth watching but not great.
I like the "what if" style that Brown brings. I've read a ton of series in that genre just for that reason, which is also why I love The Why Files on YouTube along with Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock.
 

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I read King and Crichton for years and enjoyed some of it. Lately I have realized a lot of it is just not very good. Timeline for instance was just full of internal inconsistencies, flat, unlikable characters, and overly contrived situations. The Dark Tower series turned into a self-indulging masterb***** session for King.

Discovered McCarthy a few years back and he's the absolute GOAT for me. Blood Meridian, Border Trilogy, the Appalachian period stuff is all tremendous. There's plenty of it that I don't know if I could just sit and read, but the audiobooks are great and prevent you from getting bogged down in the long sentences and lack of punctuation. The only thing of his I don't care for is in the Border Trilogy when characters randomly give a 20 page essay on their philosophy of humanity.
I may have to give the audiobooks a try because I found Blood Meridian unreadable. It is rare for me to give up on a book.
 

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The Art of The Deal
A very good book. You can learn a lot from the Master.
Really fun watching it play out in real life.
Maybe one day it’ll get made into a movie.
 
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I read this whole thread because this has always been an interesting topic to me…

The only movie that I have ever seen that I preferred over the book is Fried Green Tomatoes.

Lonesome Dove, the mini series, is so good but the book is better. All the McMurtry books are better than the movies. It’s the same with the Clancy novels and the JRR Tolkien, Thomas Harris, JK Rowling, Michael Crichton, and George RR Martin novels.

I guess, to me, my mind can conjure so much more detail and I can picture so much more than the director is able to portray on film. I suppose everyone is different and that, in some cases, others can see in film more than I can picture in my mind’s eye when I read the book.

The movie ending in Fried Green Tomatoes is entirely different than the book’s ending; and, in this case, better, in my opinion.

After all that, Ken Follett is the best author living. The character development in all his books is second to none.

Just my opinion. And a most interesting topic…