OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread

MadRU

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A lot of tough decisions need to be made. From staff to team.
 

RUforJERSEY

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All of the rentals should not be bought back. McNeil definitely not. Nimmo-Nobody would ever take on that overpaid contract at age 33. Vientos-Time to let someone else fix him. Major plate discipline issues. Same with Alvarez. Marte- He shouldn't be back. Maybe he retires. Overall the mix of this team just didn't work.
 

RUGuitarMan1

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All of the rentals should not be bought back. McNeil definitely not. Nimmo-Nobody would ever take on that overpaid contract at age 33. Vientos-Time to let someone else fix him. Major plate discipline issues. Same with Alvarez. Marte- He shouldn't be back. Maybe he retires. Overall the mix of this team just didn't work.
Sorry, the main reason for the 3 month collapse was poor pitching and poor defense. The top 2 priorities should be to upgrade the pitching staff (not completely sold on the young guys) and resign Alonso. They may not be able to resign him and then they will have a huge hole in the middle of their lineup. Not an easy fix for next season.
 

RUforJERSEY

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Sorry, the main reason for the 3 month collapse was poor pitching and poor defense. The top 2 priorities should be to upgrade the pitching staff (not completely sold on the young guys) and resign Alonso. They may not be able to resign him and then they will have a huge hole in the middle of their lineup. Not an easy fix for next season.
The young pitchers outside of McLean will be fine with more seasoning. They were rushed. McLean will be a top of the rotation guy. Number 2 guy. They could use another number 1 type. If they can find a taker for Peterson do it. What good is a guy who hits a wall in August. You need a stud not a guy who folds late. And im sorry. You mentioned only the pitching and defense and that's true. But grittier type role players are also needed. Guys who can grind out at-bats. Better at making contact and have far better plate discipline.
 

MadRU

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The young pitchers outside of McLean will be fine with more seasoning. They were rushed. McLean will be a top of the rotation guy. Number 2 guy. They could use another number 1 type. If they can find a taker for Peterson do it. What good is a guy who hits a wall in August. You need a stud not a guy who folds late. And im sorry. You mentioned only the pitching and defense and that's true. But grittier type role players are also needed. Guys who can grind out at-bats. Better at making contact and have far better plate discipline.
Agree, for me a #1 pitcher and professional hitter(s) are big needs.
 

RUforJERSEY

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I was wondering at the time but now that the game is over, what was the plan even if the Mets had overcome the Marlins and say gone into the late innings up by a run or two. Since they used Diaz in the 5th and 6th.
 

rurahrah000

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Need to completely revamp this roster and build around Soto. Keep all young players. Need winners and not losers with good stats
 

e5fdny

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Said at the end of the other thread…

I’ll probably still go to Spring Training in 2026. But just with different expectations and prospective.
 

Knight Shift

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Sorry, the main reason for the 3 month collapse was poor pitching and poor defense. The top 2 priorities should be to upgrade the pitching staff (not completely sold on the young guys) and resign Alonso. They may not be able to resign him and then they will have a huge hole in the middle of their lineup. Not an easy fix for next season.
Totally agree.
 

yesrutgers01

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Some of the hot takes on here and end of the other thread are brutal and I wonder if it is from a season ending hangover effect or real thoughts.
My take- it was not emotional or players that don’t want to win or gutless…
Our pitching staff killed us. First part of the year- top to bottom- everyone was pitching great- then the relievers fell apart but when the righted themselves, the starters became batting practice and a 4 run hole every game.
At bat- MISP that was brutal this year. Not sure what was the cause there as overall- Mets had one of the top scoring offenses in MLB.
Can’t believe I see people down so hard on Lindor…talk like we are “forced” to keep him.
Alonso- has to be top priority
Soto- MVP type season
Nimmo- tough call- 25/90 guy but this year- OBP was pretty crappy for him
McNeil- if you can move him- you do. No longer worth the money but- still a valuable type player but the $$$ too high. If he was getting paid $4-5 mil, then I would love him but at his pay- need to have one of the kids develop at 2B
Baty/Vientos/Mauricio/Acuna - there is a lot of talent there
First 3 guys could be 25+HR guys. The problem is that they logjam each other and it never seemed they knew from one day to another if they would play or not and then get long stretches playing, have a bad day and then spend 2 weeks riding the bench.
one of these guys may be traded.
Alvarez- hard to give up on him.
We do need some guys on the bench that are professionals- we just didn’t have anyone on the bench you could trust this year.
Hefner needs to go…Hitting coach- not sure what to think...Met's are in top 10 MLB in almost every category but it just seemed that the situational hitting just wasn't there.
Manager- The shine came off this year. and maybe he just got lucky last year and that the team should have been better than it was in 2024. But the handing of the younger players was baffling, the way the pitching staff was handled, I don't think it was good.
Stearns - You don't retain Winker/Bader but go after a guy like Siri and then at the trade deadline- go after a Siri clone but older and slower. The Montas signing was a firable offense from the start. Manaea - that move was understood- I think he must have been hurt all year.
Deadline moves- they all sort of made sense on paper but man, it ended up painful.
The best thing Stearns did was continue to build our pipeline. But if he is signing FA's or making trades going forward, please no more .220 20 HR OF's...and let's not try to be the guy smarter than everyone else and find that starting pitcher who sucks and think you can fix him. Maybe stick to some no brainers...His 2 good off season FA signings were the 2 no brainers. And those 2 guys carried this team.
 
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RUBob75

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David Stearns Receiving His Award As National League Executive Of The Year

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yesrutgers01

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Some of the hot takes on here and end of the other thread are brutal and I wonder if it is from a season ending hangover effect or real thoughts.
My take- it was not emotional or players that don’t want to win or gutless…
Our pitching staff killed us. First part of the year- top to bottom- everyone was pitching great- then the relievers fell apart but when the righted themselves, the starters became batting practice and a 4 run hole every game.
At bat- MISP that was brutal this year. Not sure what was the cause there as overall- Mets had one of the top scoring offenses in MLB.
Can’t believe I see people down so hard on Lindor…talk like we are “forced” to keep him.
Alonso- has to be top priority
Soto- MVP type season
Nimmo- tough call- 25/90 guy but this year- OBP was pretty crappy for him
McNeil- if you can move him- you do. No longer worth the money but- still a valuable type player but the $$$ too high. If he was getting paid $4-5 mil, then I would love him but at his pay- need to have one of the kids develop at 2B
Baty/Vientos/Mauricio/Acuna - there is a lot of talent there
First 3 guys could be 25+HR guys. The problem is that they logjam each other and it never seemed they knew from one day to another if they would play or not and then get long stretches playing, have a bad day and then spend 2 weeks riding the bench.
mine of these guys may be traded.
Alvarez- hard to give up on him.
We do need some guys on the bench that are professionals- we just didn’t have anyone on the bench you could trust this year.
Hefner needs to go…Hitting coach- not sure what to think...Met's are in top 10 MLB in almost every category but it just seemed that the situational hitting just wasn't there.
Manager- The shine came off this year. and maybe he just got lucky last year and that the team should have been better than it was in 2024. But the handing of the younger players was baffling, the way the pitching staff was handled, I don't think it was good.
Stearns - You don't retain Winker/Bader but go after a guy like Siri and then at the trade deadline- go after a Siri clone but older and slower. The Montas signing was a firable offense from the start. Manaea - that move was understood- I think he must have been hurt all year.
Deadline moves- they all sort of made sense on paper but man, it ended up painful.
The best thing Stearns did was continue to build our pipeline. But if he is signing FA's or making trades going forward, please no more .220 20 HR OF's...and let's not try to be the guy smarter than everyone else and find that starting pitcher who sucks and think you can fix him. Maybe stick to some no brainers...His 2 good off season FA signings were the 2 no brainers. And those 2 guys carried this team.
damn- forgot that we did get Winker but been injured the whole time........
 
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Sorry, the main reason for the 3 month collapse was poor pitching and poor defense. The top 2 priorities should be to upgrade the pitching staff (not completely sold on the young guys) and resign Alonso. They may not be able to resign him and then they will have a huge hole in the middle of their lineup. Not an easy fix for next season.
This, combined with poorly timed in-game decisions, didn't help. Also, Stearns has a lot to prove for next year. He may not be the stud leader of the organization that everyone thinks. Milwaukee is running smoothly without him. Both Stearns and Mendoza looked like rock stars last year, but all that goodwill has been tossed aside with the team's collapse since June.
 

T2Kplus20

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Nothing to see here. Bring everyone back! What could go wrong?

 

Doctor Worm

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From the Stearns press conference:

1} Mendoza is back. Coaches will be evaluated over the next few weeks.

2) He has no plans to hire a GM.

3) He expects each of the three rookie starters to play a role at some point during the year. Not exactly a rave.

4) Would be "foolish" to expect 30 starts out of Senga.

 

RutgersNJ

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Best fans in sports…lol not even the best fans in nyc. :ROFLMAO:

Nothing to see here. Bring everyone back! What could go wrong?

Reading the Yankees are Alonso's top destination, will you still call him Fat Pete? Praying for the Bosox, and their safety from batteries thrown by the animals in the bleachers, that is all.PS. Will they throw them at their own players or just Boone and Cashman, stay classy Yankees fans.
 
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T2Kplus20

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Reading the Yankees are Alonso's top destination, will you still call him Fat Pete? Praying for the Bosox, and their safety from batteries thrown by the animals in the bleachers, that is all.PS. Will they throw them at their own players or just Boone and Cashman, stay classy Yankees fans.
If I had the chance, I’d throw a car battery at Cashman for all his awful decisions and moronic analytics.
 
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Doctor Worm

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"Run prevention is where we fell short this year. It's where we need to get better." -David Stearns

Those words do not bode well for the guy who was dead last at his position in Defensive Runs Saved. Pete Alonso.
 

RutgersNJ

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If I had the chance, I’d throw a car battery at Cashman for all his awful decisions and moronic analytics.
How ungrateful a Yankees fan. He gets you into the postseason EVERY year and to the World Series last season. You don't deserve to see #28, just my feelings.
 

gmay8

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"Run prevention is where we fell short this year. It's where we need to get better." -David Stearns

Those words do not bode well for the guy who was dead last at his position in Defensive Runs Saved. Pete Alonso.

If they let Pete Alonso walk without a suitable plan to replace his production, the Mets are asinine. If you don't like his defense, let him DH and save runs that way. Alonso protecting Soto clearly worked this year (after a slow start)... let's not screw that up.
 

Doctor Worm

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If they let Pete Alonso walk without a suitable plan to replace his production, the Mets are asinine. If you don't like his defense, let him DH and save runs that way. Alonso protecting Soto clearly worked this year (after a slow start)... let's not screw that up.
Pete is not going to sign with anyone who isn't guaranteeing that he will play first base. He takes great pride in his defensive skills. I totally get that. I take great pride in my resemblance to George Clooney. But that does not make it so.

I guess the Mets, or whomever, could promise him anything and then renege once he signs on the line that is dotted. But then you'll get Unhappy Pete. If you think Unhappy Jeff is unattractive...
 

yesrutgers01

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Run Prevention - yeah- the defense had a lot to do with pretty much leading the league in giving up walks. The run prevention we need is for Stearns to stop thinking he can fix ****** pitchers.

Using something like run prevention is such a BS analytic. By that same measure- the Yankee, Jeter relationship would have never made it almost 20 years.
 

RUforJERSEY

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There's no doubt that pitching and defense were our major failings as well as lack of clutch hitting. To think we dont need to make improvements in all 3 areas would be like the definition of insanity.
 
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