OT: NJ drivers may soon have to do something they're not used to: pump their own gas.

MADHAT1

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The old and feeble can still drive the car but have the young ones fill up the tank for them.
same with some disabled drivers on the road.
Good to go on road, but mobility keeps then from pumping gas easily .
Just might wonder if some of the derly that can't pump their own gas might have that problem that also could affect their driving ability.
Most no worries, but some might be pushing it a bit
 
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Section124

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I am all for self service but it's not always great. I travel a lot on business and always get annoyed at the people that block the pump when they go into the store. You never know when they are coming back. Also in the northeast a lot of the gas stations are smaller properties or don't have fully automated pumps like said above. We would need a lot of infrastructure updates to make this happen. Self service should be allowed for the larger stations (ex. Wawa, QuickChek). In densely populated areas/smaller stations, full service is the way to go.
 

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The only people that are unlikely to be able to pump their own gas are the elderly imo. But here in FL they seem to have few problems.

Are people from NJ unable to learn how to use self service? It takes less than a few mins to learn.

Absolutely amazing the hoops they jump through to try to justify an outdated last-of-its-kind law impeding the free market. Just to avoid like 7 minutes a week of getting out the damn car.

I get (not agree with) preferring full serve, don't get mandating it.
 

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With the exception of WAWA most of the attendants are the owners or family of the owners. I doubt it will have an impact on pricing.
I don't know where you live but the mom & pop gas station is on the endangered species list and literally has nothing to do with the substance of my post.

I and most others will gladly pay a few cents more to keep the attendants working. Paying their salary is much more palatable than paying for their welfare.

We can agree to disagree. I'm fine with that.
 

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I don't know where you live but the mom & pop gas station is on the endangered species list and literally has nothing to do with the substance of my post.

I and most others will gladly pay a few cents more to keep the attendants working. Paying their salary is much more palatable than paying for their welfare.

We can agree to disagree. I'm fine with that.
Mom and pop gas stations are those I'm talking about. No one is paid a wage, the family owns the business and family work the pumps. This will help the family dramatically as they won't need a lot of people to run the station.
 

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There are more and more stations in NY where folks search out stations that pump the gas for them. There's a reason why-- people like it. Some people actually think if you pump your own gas your some kind of " car guy"-- what a joke.
 

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There are more and more stations in NY where folks search out stations that pump the gas for them. There's a reason why-- people like it. Some people actually think if you pump your own gas your some kind of " car guy"-- what a joke.
I've never heard anyone saying I'm a "car guy" if they pump their own gas. Never. Something you are just making up.
Simply it's faster. Some places like WAWA have 1 guy covering 6-8 pumps. The Sunoco's on the Turnpike take 15/20 mins to get gas. I get it you're lazy and don't want it to go away. Lots of people are lazy. Go to a Dunkin, McDonald's, Chick-fil-A etc and the line for drive through can be crazy long. Park and actually walk in a you are in and out in no time. Both ways are a convenience for different reasons. Why people like you are so mad about is bizarre.
 
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There are more and more stations in NY where folks search out stations that pump the gas for them. There's a reason why-- people like it. Some people actually think if you pump your own gas your some kind of " car guy"-- what a joke.
And that's why the proposal in NJ wasn't to get rid of full service, it was to just let us choose which we want when we go to fill up, and since most people only read headlines they thought that the proposal was to force everyone to pump their own gas, so the poll numbers showed that people apparently don't want to be given a choice. Ridiculous.
 
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And that's why the proposal in NJ wasn't to get rid of full service, it was to just let us choose which we want when we go to fill up, and since most people only read headlines they thought that the proposal was to force everyone to pump their own gas, so the poll numbers showed that people apparently don't want to be given a choice. Ridiculous.
Exactly. The Oregon law change requires an attendant on site at all times when open.
 

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And that's why the proposal in NJ wasn't to get rid of full service, it was to just let us choose which we want when we go to fill up, and since most people only read headlines they thought that the proposal was to force everyone to pump their own gas, so the poll numbers showed that people apparently don't want to be given a choice. Ridiculous.
What's your definition of " get rid of" ?Did it say the stations had to continue to offer "free" service .
 

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The only people that are unlikely to be able to pump their own gas are the elderly imo. But here in FL they seem to have few problems.

Are people from NJ unable to learn how to use self service? It takes less than a few mins to learn.
Pumping your own gas isn't "Special", it's stinky and dirty. Some of you like buffets rather than sit down service.
 

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I didn't read the whole thread, but would simply like to point out that this @Tango Two prediction is precisely as prescient as all his other predictions.
 

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What's your definition of " get rid of" ?Did it say the stations had to continue to offer "free" service .
I don't know, but if having someone pump your gas is that popular that people would go out of their way to get gas from a full service station as one of your earlier posts said, then there's a built in incentive for them to keep full service while still offering self service, and everyone wins. Let the free market decide.

Pumping your own gas isn't "Special", it's stinky and dirty. Some of you like buffets rather than sit down service.
Pumping your own gas isn't special, it's normal. We are the only state in the country (and the rest of the developed world except for Belgium) who are not allowed to pump our own gas. I can't imagine how coddled a person has to be to think stepping out of your car to press a few buttons and put a nozzle into your car is "stinky and dirty." A lot of us have places to be and are tired of having to sit and wait for someone to come by to do something we can all do ourselves in a matter of seconds.
 

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We are still one of the lowest rates of gas- why does anyone want to go out there and pump it themself? Weird
 

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We are still one of the lowest rates of gas- why does anyone want to go out there and pump it themself? Weird
That's not true, we are somewhere around the middle now, but either way, it's not really about saving money, it's about saving time. The cheapest gas station by me is a Sunoco that only ever has one guy working, and there is always a line. Fortunately, they always have a pump coned off, not because it doesn't work, just to keep the one worker from having to walk around to all the pumps. I always skip the line and go to the one with a cone in front of it, pump it myself, and am miles away by the time the people in line finally get to their pump. This is how everywhere should be. The people who want to sit in line and wait for someone else to pump their gas can do so, and the people who just want to do it themselves and get on with their day can do that too.
 

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I really don’t think you can clearly say self service is always faster. And I am pro self service. It really depends on the station (large or small) and location (city). For example, I pulled into a station today with 4 pumps and as I put the car in park, the attendant was already at the window. Took my card and was done ASAP. No wasted time getting in and out of the car. Where they can be slower is at a station with 8 pumps and one worker. That is where it would be best to have those as self service and keep the other 4 as full serve for now.
 

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Long overdue and excellent timing.

Plus, the complaining on this board and elsewhere about something 97 percent of the country has been doing for years will be hilarious!
Agree. Been pumping my own gas for 30 years since my move to Wenatchee, Wa. It's no big deal.
 
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I pump my own gas everywhere I go except at Costco where I've been told I'm not allowed. When I find a station with a good price, I can get an extra $3-4 bucks in I do it. Never spill, not once since I pumped gas in HS for several years, during the gas crisis also. Prices were $0.33 a gallon back then and we had one island coned off for First Responders, no wait, and of course our HS teachers 😁 Best grades I ever got!!! I guess the rule is for people who over pump and spill gas on the cement.
 

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I pump my own gas everywhere I go except at Costco where I've been told I'm not allowed. When I find a station with a good price, I can get an extra $3-4 bucks in I do it. Never spill, not once since I pumped gas in HS for several years, during the gas crisis also. Prices were $0.33 a gallon back then and we had one island coned off for First Responders, no wait, and of course our HS teachers 😁 Best grades I ever got!!! I guess the rule is for people who over pump and spill gas on the cement.
Not to nitpick but self vs full- not usually a multi $$$ difference per gallon. Let's say it is even .10 per gallon, what do you really save on your 20ish gallon tank. $2 at best and that is if you are rolling in complete empty.
And getting gas on your hand doesn't always mean you over pumped it- so many times- it means the asshat right before you over pumped.

I have no problem that anyone wants to do it themselves- just doesnt make sense to me. And for the times you save a minute or two- you also lose a ton when idiots leave their car at the pump to run inside.
 

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Not to nitpick but self vs full- not usually a multi $$$ difference per gallon. Let's say it is even .10 per gallon, what do you really save on your 20ish gallon tank. $2 at best and that is if you are rolling in complete empty.
And getting gas on your hand doesn't always mean you over pumped it- so many times- it means the asshat right before you over pumped.

I have no problem that anyone wants to do it themselves- just doesnt make sense to me. And for the times you save a minute or two- you also lose a ton when idiots leave their car at the pump to run inside.
Just today, after a Physician checkup in Holmdel I noticed the prices leaving Freehold were $3.75 at the lowest anywhere on Rt 9 and afterwards we took a ride into Keyport to watch the boats and have lunch with my wife. I was able to fill my car at $3.43. Pumped 16 gallons so I saved $5.12 which was totally worth it. Costco in Hazlet was $3.45 so I wouldn't have been able to pump another 1.5 gallons in which always ticks me off, lol.
 

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I had never operated a gas pump before moving to Georgia back in 2007. But I guess I've gotten used to it to the point where a couple of times visiting back in Jersey it felt weird waiting for someone to approach the car I was riding in.
 

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Just today, after a Physician checkup in Holmdel I noticed the prices leaving Freehold were $3.75 at the lowest anywhere on Rt 9 and afterwards we took a ride into Keyport to watch the boats and have lunch with my wife. I was able to fill my car at $3.43. Pumped 16 gallons so I saved $5.12 which was totally worth it. Costco in Hazlet was $3.45 so I wouldn't have been able to pump another 1.5 gallons in which always ticks me off, lol.
What is the normal difference at a station that offers both self and full.
I can find 2 stations across the street from each other that are .30 or more different
 

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What is the normal difference at a station that offers both self and full.
I can find 2 stations across the street from each other that are .30 or more different
Actually, pumping your own gas in NJ is illegal and I could get fined or the station would? Not sure, but the only ones that tell it's a no- no is Costco, both in Old Bridge and Hazlet. There aren't any self serve in NJ.
 

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Actually, pumping your own gas in NJ is illegal and I could get fined or the station would? Not sure, but the only ones that tell it's a no- no is Costco, both in Old Bridge and Hazlet. There aren't any self serve in NJ.
You realize that has nothing to do with what I posted. It has been posted in this thread by others that there are stations in other states that offer both. I would like to know what the markup is at a single station for full serve vs self
 

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You realize that has nothing to do with what I posted. It has been posted in this thread by others that there are stations in other states that offer both. I would like to know what the markup is at a single station for full serve vs self
I have no idea what other states charge as a markup.
 

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You realize that has nothing to do with what I posted. It has been posted in this thread by others that there are stations in other states that offer both. I would like to know what the markup is at a single station for full serve vs self
In Oregon with the new law there is no price difference for full vs. self serve. I remember when I lived in MA a couple stations offered full serve and the price was also the same. Here in WA the only price difference is for cash vs. credit at certain stations.
 
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In Oregon with the new law there is no price difference for full vs. self serve. I remember when I lived in MA a couple stations offered full serve and the price was also the same. Here in WA the only price difference is for cash vs. credit at certain stations.
There were stations in upstate NY where I thought both prices were the same or just a slight difference. In reality, there is no cost savings. Just in one case- it provides jobs and in another, maybe some time savings.
Saving .30-.50 per gallon was only a station to station difference and nothing to do with self serve.
 
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Y’all crack me up. Seriously, you can pump your own gas even when it is freezing outside. It’s not hard.

And yes I remember the days when the attendant would check your oil and tire pressure while your tank was being filled and he also washed your windshield. But gas was 29 cents a gallon in those days.
 

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Just today, after a Physician checkup in Holmdel I noticed the prices leaving Freehold were $3.75 at the lowest anywhere on Rt 9 and afterwards we took a ride into Keyport to watch the boats and have lunch with my wife. I was able to fill my car at $3.43. Pumped 16 gallons so I saved $5.12 which was totally worth it. Costco in Hazlet was $3.45 so I wouldn't have been able to pump another 1.5 gallons in which always ticks me off, lol.
You shouldn't really continue pumping after it stops, there's a reason it stops before it's 100% full. It's not good for your car's evap system, and you might not even be getting all of that additional gas that the pump says it is dispensing. In fact, one of the reasons I prefer pumping my own is specifically so I don't have an attendant overpump on every fill-up just to get to a whole dollar amount, especially when I'm paying with a credit card.

 

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You shouldn't really continue pumping after it stops, there's a reason it stops before it's 100% full. It's not good for your car's evap system, and you might not even be getting all of that additional gas that the pump says it is dispensing. In fact, one of the reasons I prefer pumping my own is specifically so I don't have an attendant overpump on every fill-up just to get to a whole dollar amount, especially when I'm paying with a credit card.

Thank you,very informative.
 
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Some can't handle it. A new operation puts important knowledge in everyone's lap. Label says to refuel in no great effort. Really. Are some hapless?