OT: NY Giants 2025 Season Thread

Postman_1

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Only a matter of time before Dart would get hurt. Going to the locker room, concussion they said
 
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koleszar

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Only a matter of time before Dart would get hurt. Going to the locker room, concussion they said
Daboll/Kafka have been running him a lot as it was a designed run. Like you said, eventually they were going to get him killed.
 

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Send Daboll packing tonight and give Kafka the reins for the rest of the year. Let’s see what he can do.
 

koleszar

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I can attest this is real. We have a farm and once had goats, one night we had a fire pit going and the gate to their pen was open, they ran for the fire and started jumping in. For some reason they have this curiosity/attraction to fire. If it wasn't for mankind this stupid species would be extinct.
 

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I can attest this is real. We have a farm and once had goats, one night we had a fire pit going and the gate to their pen was open, they ran for the fire and started jumping in. For some reason they have this curiosity/attraction to fire. If it wasn't for mankind this stupid species would be extinct.
I was reading about it earlier. Apparently it has at least something to do with an instinct to kill parasites that are infecting their body. You’d think natural selection would have taken care of such a silly species by now. They’re cute though.
 
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I was reading about it earlier. Apparently it has at least something to do with an instinct to kill parasites that are infecting their body. You’d think natural selection would have taken care of such a silly species by now. They’re cute though.
It was one of the craziest things I had ever seen. I think we scarred some children for life that night. Parents were running all over trying to grab goats, if they got loose, they'd head right back to the fire. After that even my wife agreed, no more goats, they also sh*t in their food and drinking bowls. Cute, but man so, so dumb.
 
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I read something today that Dart had the most QB designed runs of any QB in the league this year and he hasn't even started every game. Yesterday was his 4th time this year (including preseason) being pulled from a game for a possible concussion. Yesterday was his first ruled concussion. When he is your whole offense and Daboll knew this I guess thats why all the QB runs from him. He's trying to save his job and win. Neither worked.

Listening to Tiki today on Wfan he said Dart does not know how to get "small" and take a hit yet. He runs tall exposing a lot of his body. He's gonna need to learn it quick or his career will not be as long as Giants fans are hoping for. If Dart is out and I think he will be hopefully it is Winston who gets the start.
 

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I read something today that Dart had the most QB designed runs of any QB in the league this year and he hasn't even started every game. Yesterday was his 4th time this year (including preseason) being pulled from a game for a possible concussion. Yesterday was his first ruled concussion. When he is your whole offense and Daboll knew this I guess thats why all the QB runs from him. He's trying to save his job and win. Neither worked.

Listening to Tiki today on Wfan he said Dart does not know how to get "small" and take a hit yet. He runs tall exposing a lot of his body. He's gonna need to learn it quick or his career will not be as long as Giants fans are hoping for. If Dart is out and I think he will be hopefully it is Winston who gets the start.
As a Giant fan why do you want them to win? Firing a HC is the biggest white flag there is. Don't know why they didn't fire the GM.
 
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All I know is that Russel Wilson should never take another NFL snap.,,
How does a guy like him turn so bad. And it isn’t even like it is just arm strength- he looks like a bad rookie QB who never saw an NFL defense before.
 

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As a Giant fan why do you want them to win? Firing a HC is the biggest white flag there is. Don't know why they didn't fire the GM.
Because I’m tired of losing and winning is more fun. I don’t know either why the didn’t get rid of the GM. He was just as bad as Daboll
 
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willisneverrana43

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Schoen is worse than Daboll. His draft record is abominable. Heck, even though he picked Dart, wasn’t it Daboll who pushed for him? Banks, Hyatt, Neal, other top ten picks that have been just good not great, Schmidt, the Waller trade, the CB and Safety that he signed this year for what is still a terrible defense, still no productive TE, not simply tagging Saquon and on and on. Mara is at sea if he keeps this guy. But then again I have no faith in this management making any good hires.
 
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It's behind a paywall, but Dan Duggan of the Athletic had a great article yesterday, the theme of which was "what the hell is Joe Schoen still doing with a job." The stronger argument is that he's more of the problem than Daboll, and Daboll was a problem. There's also another video circulating of Schoen passive-aggressively making clear on draft day that Dart was Daboll's pick. I'm more and more convinced that John Mara and his trio of dead-weight relatives in the personnel department won't ever get it right.
 

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It's behind a paywall, but Dan Duggan of the Athletic had a great article yesterday, the theme of which was "what the hell is Joe Schoen still doing with a job." The stronger argument is that he's more of the problem than Daboll, and Daboll was a problem. There's also another video circulating of Schoen passive-aggressively making clear on draft day that Dart was Daboll's pick. I'm more and more convinced that John Mara and his trio of dead-weight relatives in the personnel department won't ever get it right.

This seems to be by far the biggest issue the organization has. There is a direct timeline as to John & Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell becoming more prominent in the FO as to the amount of losing this franchise has had. Maybe it's just one of them and once John moves on and Tim becomes the boss we turn it around but we won't know a thing until it actually happens but with John's health it might be sooner rather than later.
 

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Winston getting the start this Sunday. Hoping for an update on Dart today. Not all concussions are the same
 
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It's behind a paywall, but Dan Duggan of the Athletic had a great article yesterday, the theme of which was "what the hell is Joe Schoen still doing with a job." The stronger argument is that he's more of the problem than Daboll, and Daboll was a problem. There's also another video circulating of Schoen passive-aggressively making clear on draft day that Dart was Daboll's pick. I'm more and more convinced that John Mara and his trio of dead-weight relatives in the personnel department won't ever get it right.
Duggan is the Giants best reporter IMO. He’s a real journalist who reports it how it is. He’s not afraid to call anyone out
 
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Winston getting the start this Sunday. Hoping for an update on Dart today. Not all concussions are the same
I'm in the Francesca camp of just waiting till after the bye(if not longer) to get Dart back in there.

Concussions won't ruin a guy if the player is allowed to fully heal. He's taking a beating through his first 7 games. Let him clear his head.
 
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It's behind a paywall, but Dan Duggan of the Athletic had a great article yesterday, the theme of which was "what the hell is Joe Schoen still doing with a job." The stronger argument is that he's more of the problem than Daboll, and Daboll was a problem. There's also another video circulating of Schoen passive-aggressively making clear on draft day that Dart was Daboll's pick. I'm more and more convinced that John Mara and his trio of dead-weight relatives in the personnel department won't ever get it right.
I think it's more a matter of those guys finding the right GM. The Schoen hiring at the time seemed great. Daboll too. Even moreso one year into their tenure.

All the crap that has happened since seems much more tied to Schoen and Daboll, then to anyone above them.
 

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I think it's more a matter of those guys finding the right GM. The Schoen hiring at the time seemed great. Daboll too. Even moreso one year into their tenure.

All the crap that has happened since seems much more tied to Schoen and Daboll, then to anyone above them.
Most hires seem right at the time, at least to the public. But the trick is to get it right, not something that seems right. And they’ve been getting it wrong for a decade.
 

koleszar

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Actually, having fun watching Jameis. Wilson should have never been an option at the position; he's completely washed up. Schoen and Daboll should have known better, too bad we're still stuck with one of the dipsh*ts.
 
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koleszar

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This is what the NFL does to bad teams. No way should that have been overturned. I mean they suck, but they get the short end of the stick on so many calls and reviews.