OT: NY Mets 2025 Season Thread

yesrutgers01

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Opening Day Starter will be Clay Holmes.
Do we have a good idea of who is coming north with the team this year? Outside of
SP - Holmes, Senga, Peterson, McGill
RP- no idea except Diaz/Butto/Stanek

C - Torrens
1B- Alonso
2B - ?
3B- Vientos
SS - Lindor
OF - Nimmo, Winker, Soto, Taylor, Siri, Marte
 

Zak57

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Do we have a good idea of who is coming north with the team this year? Outside of
SP - Holmes, Senga, Peterson, McGill
RP- no idea except Diaz/Butto/Stanek

C - Torrens
1B- Alonso
2B - ?
3B- Vientos
SS - Lindor
OF - Nimmo, Winker, Soto, Taylor, Siri, Marte
Depends on the injuries but will be most of these names. Blackburn, Canning, Minter, Garrett, Butto, Nunez, Kranick has impressed etc. Acuna, Baty, Walton. 2 of 3. Backup C Reetz or Senger I suppose unless Nido shakes loose.
 
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yesrutgers01

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Depends on the injuries but will be most of these names. Blackburn, Canning, Minter, Garrett, Butto, Nunez, Kranick has impressed etc. Acuna, Baty, Walton. 2 of 3. Backup C Reetz or Senger I suppose unless Nido shakes loose.
Why did we sign this guy Walton?
 

Zak57

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Sure seems like Baty is going to win the 2B job with McNeil out and that Max Kranick should win a pen spot as well. With less than a week to go this is how I see things shaking out. Don't get hung up on DH or things like that based on OD could be Winker etc. This is strictly an exercise on who will make the OD roster as of right now. Obviously more injuries can change things.

C Torrens
1B Alonso
2B Baty
3B Vientos
SS Lindor
LF Nimmo
CF Siri
RF Soto
DH Marte
BN Winker
BN Taylor
BN Acuna
BN Senger

SP Kodai Senga
SP Clay Holmes
SP David Peterson
SP Griffin Canning
SP Tylor Megill
SP/RP Paul Blackburn
RP Edwin Diaz
RP AJ Minter
RP Ryne Stanek
RP Reed Garrett
RP Jose Butto
RP Dedniel Nunez
RP Max Kranick
 
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yesrutgers01

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Wish Alvarez was healthy, same with Manaea...but, with that said, let's assume the lineup is some variation of
Lindor
Soto
Nimmo
Alonso
Vientos
Marte/Winker
Taylor/Siri
Baty
Torrens

That is as solid of a lineup as we have seen here.

And Senga, Peterson, Holmes, Megill, Canning Blackburn have pitched better than expected so far and the BP has been surprisingly solid to very good.

I am ready to go!

C Torrens
1B Alonso
2B Baty
3B Vientos
SS Lindor
LF Nimmo
CF Siri
RF Soto
DH Marte
BN Winker
BN Taylor
BN Acuna
BN Senger

SP Kodai Senga
SP Clay Holmes
SP David Peterson
SP Griffin Canning
SP Tylor Megill
SP/RP Paul Blackburn
RP Edwin Diaz
RP AJ Minter
RP Ryne Stanek
RP Reed Garrett
RP Jose Butto
RP Dedniel Nunez
RP Max Kranick
 

willisneverrana43

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That lineup potentially gets weak as you move to the bottom half.

Was at last night's game, and Baty looked fine at second base, but he really wasn't challenged. Another thing you notice is that he's a big guy.
 

Zak57

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That lineup potentially gets weak as you move to the bottom half.

Was at last night's game, and Baty looked fine at second base, but he really wasn't challenged. Another thing you notice is that he's a big guy.

Not too shabby and once Alvarez gets back at least you have that upgraded. The top 6 is just as good as anyone in baseball. Baty and/or Acuna at 2B early would be nice to get them going. McNeil coming back if not.

1. Lindor
2. Soto
3. Alonso
4. Nimmo
5. Vientos
6. Marte/Winker
7. Baty
8. Torrens
9. Siri/Taylor
 

yesrutgers01

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That lineup potentially gets weak as you move to the bottom half.

Was at last night's game, and Baty looked fine at second base, but he really wasn't challenged. Another thing you notice is that he's a big guy.
The difference is that as much as I am not a fan of Siri- the power potential at his spot makes him interesting. Marte/Winker also make for a very solid potential. The only sure weak hitter is Torrens.
But for example Marte Baty Torrens Siri can compare favorably to most 6-9 hitters. The 1-5 is big time though
 

willisneverrana43

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The difference is that as much as I am not a fan of Siri- the power potential at his spot makes him interesting. Marte/Winker also make for a very solid potential. The only sure weak hitter is Torrens.
But for example Marte Baty Torrens Siri can compare favorably to most 6-9 hitters. The 1-5 is big time though
If history is prologue, I expect that most on here will tire of Siri and his power. While he can launch a ball, his power and contact is so limited that his career OPS is well below .700 and just .621 last year, he strikes out an absolute ton, and he rarely walks. It'll be a matter of time before the complaints start to roll in. That said, he has the potential to play incredible D.

Its a similar story with Torrens, who's been around a while, has a career OPS below .650, a lifetime BA below .230, and not much power. Let's hope that he plays good D and Francisco comes back on schedule.

Baty, we'll see. He needs to finally hit and hasn't yet.

And Marte--you know, maybe. But he's only getting older and more fragile.

There's a lot that can go wrong with this 44% of the lineup.

But it's spring. So I'm hoping that Baty hits his stride, Marte has a resurgence, and McNeil comes back swatting like he has for a significant portion of his career.

Regardless, I'll be in the stadium watching again on Saturday afternoon.
 

yesrutgers01

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If history is prologue, I expect that most on here will tire of Siri and his power. While he can launch a ball, his power and contact is so limited that his career OPS is well below .700 and just .621 last year, he strikes out an absolute ton, and he rarely walks. It'll be a matter of time before the complaints start to roll in. That said, he has the potential to play incredible D.

Its a similar story with Torrens, who's been around a while, has a career OPS below .650, a lifetime BA below .230, and not much power. Let's hope that he plays good D and Francisco comes back on schedule.

Baty, we'll see. He needs to finally hit and hasn't yet.

And Marte--you know, maybe. But he's only getting older and more fragile.

There's a lot that can go wrong with this 44% of the lineup.

But it's spring. So I'm hoping that Baty hits his stride, Marte has a resurgence, and McNeil comes back swatting like he has for a significant portion of his career.

Regardless, I'll be in the stadium watching again on Saturday afternoon.
I don’t disagree but a guy like Siri is still interesting over 80% of 9th place hitters. I don’t like him myself but it adds something different.
Torrens- just a stop gap. Mete/Winker also, not perfect but they could be good.
If you look at most teams- the 6-9 guys are not much better.
Heck, across town, outside of their big bat, most of their lineup looks like this.
 

willisneverrana43

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. . . .
If you look at most teams- the 6-9 guys are not much better.
. . .
This is probably true, but there's a weakness to this. We are not looking to be better than most teams. That won't do it. A team with a .520 winning percentage is better than most teams. We want to compete for a championship. And if we do that, we'll need to be better than all or almost all teams in multiple areas.
 

yesrutgers01

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This is probably true, but there's a weakness to this. We are not looking to be better than most teams. That won't do it. A team with a .520 winning percentage is better than most teams. We want to compete for a championship. And if we do that, we'll need to be better than all or almost all teams in multiple areas.
I get what you are saying but that is also being very isolated.
Let’s look at it differently
1-5 batters has to be in the top 5 in MLB. Those 6-9 in the top half. Full lineup is most likely in the 80 percentile
Fielding…the right side of the field is a weak point but CF and the left side are good.
When Alvarez is playing, his defense and calling a game is very good.
SP- this is a huge ??? If Senga is rookie Senga, Peterson pitches like last year, Manaea comes back strong and Holmes continues as he looked in spring. It actually becomes a strength.
But, it can easily fall apart.
I think we quietly put together a very good BP
The bench is solid and the manager is very good.
I would say it bodes well for us.
 

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On my way down for today’s and tomorrow’s games.

Who should I be watching for?
 

yesrutgers01

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Somewhat isolated, I guess. But it is almost half the lineup.
Again- break down this half lineup against most other teams. And then add in the top 5 and it is one of the best lineups in baseball.
Now, one of the top 5 could have a horrendous year or one of the bottom 4 can just completely suck. We just won’t know until it counts.
But at least having a Marte/Winker, Baty/McNeil and either Siri/Taylor coming up isn’t like most years when those guys would have been our 2-5 hitters lol
We also have a chance for the Marte/Winker combo to be a combined .270 20 HR Baty/McNeil to be similar and Siri to hit 20+
If 2 of those 3 things happen, then it is crazy good and then let’s hope Alvarez can bounce back.
 
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willisneverrana43

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I think we need more or it will be a problem. That means that Baty starts hitting, Francisco comes back, stays healthy and hits and/or McNeil and Marte get back what they had.
 

willisneverrana43

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When he was needed after Nats took the lead he came thru.

Until he ran out of gas I thought he looked good. Crowd agreed when he came out.
Lindor is at .170. I hope that doesn’t turn out to be the prelude to another slow start.

Megill’s spring ERA is 4.24, which isn’t too far off his career ERA (which is s bit higher).
 
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George "the Stork" Theodore. He was not on steroids. 😁
 

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This has to be the least amount of star power for a starting rotation that has a chance at a championship in baseball. The Mets need a stud starter in the worst way. And yes, even counting injured players.