OT: Oregon State completing $161 million football stadium upgrade.
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There have been two states that successfully lobbied and gotten their two schools in the same conference. Virginia -Virginia Tech, Arizona, Arizona State, (Ohio - Ohio State ), lol.
It did not work for Oklahoma -Oklahoma State and Oregon - Oregon State.
It did not work for Oklahoma -Oklahoma State and Oregon - Oregon State.
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Oregon State is in the preseason Top 20, because one of their former QBs, Jonathan Smith, has them on a very good path.
I don't see this process lasting more than a couple of years. I fully expect Stanford, California and 4 other schools not named Notre Dame, to eventually join the B1G. You can't absorb the entire league at one time, but you certainly can in portions.
By the end of the decade at the very latest, my expectations would be
Stanford
California
Oregon State
Washington State
2 ACC schools TBD (my guess would be GA Tech or UVA with UNC.
I don't see this process lasting more than a couple of years. I fully expect Stanford, California and 4 other schools not named Notre Dame, to eventually join the B1G. You can't absorb the entire league at one time, but you certainly can in portions.
By the end of the decade at the very latest, my expectations would be
Stanford
California
Oregon State
Washington State
2 ACC schools TBD (my guess would be GA Tech or UVA with UNC.
and the haters wants to criticize Rutgers' athletic budget. It's silly compared to what's going on out there on campuses throughout the country at institutions in a lot less favorable position than Rutgers is in the BIG. Goofy people
Oregon State and Washington State being ZERO to the table. Not money, Not Brand.
If the entire league is now dead because they couldn’t get a decent TV contract why would anyone want to take the last 4?
Oregon and Washington getting half shares each or the equivalent to 1 Full Share will cost each of the other 16 members about $3.75 million, assuming the payout for 2024 is $60 million.
How do the 16 schools get that $4 million back?
How do the 16 schools get that $4 million back?
Why would the B1G want Wash St or Oregon St? We already have the good program from each state/market? What is your thinking here? I think we’d sooner bring in Colorado State or Houston before either of those two.
The media partners will get them more money for the extra games by either carrying them or selling some of the games as a package to a 4th provider. Fox wanted this, none of the schools are going to get less money.
I think the 16 will also get more from the fees the BTN can get from cable companies/subscribers when they negotiate to add BTN. BTN is a winner with adding 4 states that they can now get their into...Subscriber Fees and Advertising could be a few Hundred Million a year.
Of course, the schools now get 39% from BTN after selling a 10% stake to FOX in 2020.
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Statements like these are kind of funny coming from Rutgers fans. Rutgers brought nothing to the table except cable boxes. Certainly no brand. It was an embarrassment in 2014.
Oregon State has been in 12 bowl games since the year 2000, winning eight bowls, and has been in 4 bowls in the last 10 years.
Washington State- 11 bowls since the year 2000, and 7 bowls in the last10 years. Both solid football teams with decent track records.
What some people are missing is that while football drives the bus, there is already grumbling about travel expenses and impacts on the non-revenue sports from various B1G members. Also, does Rutgers really want the likes of FSU and Clemson joining the league, two more team that Rutgers will have an extremely difficult time beating?
Then, they can rot in the ACC when they become a basketball only league...like the Big East became
Except the renovation was largely paid for by donor contributions totaling $100 million of the $162 million. $45 million was in bonds.
"The $45 million in bonds must be repaid over 35 years through revenue from football and other ventures associated with the stadium. Annual debt service or the money required to pay the principal and interest is projected to be $2.6 million a year, according to OSU athletics.
“The only good news for Oregon State is that the debt service is modest enough that it probably isn’t going to be debilitating to the program,” explained Robert Boland, who teaches sports law at Seton Hall Law School and has written about stadium finance."
Agreed, and I completely understand your point. At the same time, it seems like bad timing to be undergoing a major stadium renovation while your athletics department is being relegated to second class status, regardless of how it is being funded. I get that one decision was made before the other. Feel bad for OSU and WSU. They are both in a tough spot
So, what you are saying is Rutgers brought the B1G a lot of money with them by being added. Hmmm. Yea, I guess the Truth is real funny coming from a Rutgers fan.
That's the name.of the game right now. Do you bring in more money short term, medium term or even long term in relation to your Yearly Share.
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Cute. Maybe you have not thought about this, but maybe UW, Oregon, UCLA and USC will not be too keen on watching their teams play the more boring brands of Indiana, Minnesota, Rutgers, Northwestern, etc. The Apple Cup was a big thing between UW and WSU. So was the Civil War game between Oregon and Oregon State. Sometimes it is useful to get off your high horse and take a different perspective view of what all of this means to teams and old rivalries. But yeah, let's get Clemson and FSU in so we can make more money each year and get the **** kicked out of us by two more teams.So, what you are saying is Rutgers brought the B1G a lot of money with them by being added. Hmmm. Yea, I guess the Truth is real funny coming from a Rutgers fan.
That's the name.of the game right now. Do you bring in more money short term, medium term or even long term in relation to your Yearly Share.
I haven't heard of the OSU talked with the big 12 but find that shocking. Would think UNLV would get a look before either WSU or OSU.
B1G leadership and Presidents do not care about an Apple Cup or Civil War and preserving those rivalry games.....
. And USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington have no pull to push for those other 2 teams to get invites. Lol
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I feel badly about the whole Pac 12 demise, as well as the associated travel issues with new members. It seems that the best way forward (ignoring TV money for now) is to bring Cal and Stanford to the Big Ten. This creates a western division of the conference, where teams would mostly play each other, but also have a few east/midwest games thrown in. I know this does not make sense financially now, but logically it would make things better in the long run. It's just crazy and unfathomable that Stanford (especially) is being left out in the cold. I know that money drives the bus, but this does seem insane.. I do like the three division format (east, midwest, and west) with the highest two ranked teams playing each other in a championship game at the Rose Bowl. The problem is that you would need Nebraska to join the west division, and that's a cultural mismatch in so many ways.
These two points don't make sense. Bringing cable boxes to the B1G meant more $$, more marketability, and more market share for the conference. That's quite a difference compared to the "nothing OSU and WSU would bring" the OP referenced. And prior to 2014, Rutgers was not an embarrassment the previous 10 years. In 2014, we beat Michigan, went 8-5, and beat UNC in a bowl game. What crack pipe are you smoking and how often are you using it?
UNC is a public school that answers to state legislation. Duke is a private school.