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Is the post office in your area functioning like it usually has for the past decades? The one in our area is not even close to being reliable anymore. Today, we received all of another business's mail that is about a half block away. Two days ago, another business received our mail that is next door. Last week, we only received mail on two days. This is very common and has been happening for several years. But the worst part is the stolen checks. We've had many checks stolen while in delivery. The FBI investigated and said there was a crime ring in the Postal Service, but did nothing. Along with us, there are nearly 20 local businesses that won't send checks via mail because of stolen checks by the post office personnel. .... I was just wondering if everyone's service is going downhill or is it just our area?
 

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The number of lost packages we've had to deal with has grown several times over, albeit most aren't making it to my post office before being lost. We get other people's mail or have ours go elsewhere about every other week, but that's not much higher than traditional.
So, USPS in general has dropped quite a bit in quality of service over the last few years, but our local office seems to be holding fairly steady.
 

RocketDawg

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Here, it's not nearly as consistent as it once was, with mail being delivered anywhere from 2 in the afternoon to 10 or so at night, and occasionally not at all. It's somewhat explainable here because of the rapid population influx .

I saw the delivery vehicle today and there was so much "stuff" in it - packages and other mail - that there was barely room for the driver. I suppose they have really large routes. It's not unusual to have mis-delivered mail.

Seems like one thing the post office could do is cut out bulk rate for junk mail. Surely all that saturates the system and makes the job more difficult. It's to the point that almost all of our mail is junk.
 

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skip dog

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I have a great mailman, but he is getting old and has to take days off.....when he takes a day off, more often than not, I do not get my mail. There is a female that will fill in, and she takes our mail and places is in a "undeliverable" bin. Have talked to the station manager, and frankly, you can see she could care less. It is also known, that at the downtown post office, nobody cares, and generally, about 30% of the shift workers just don't show up. I'm in North Jackson

*I have always said that junk mail and advertising mail should be charged quadruple. Would cut down on unnecessary volume
 

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You may think you hate it now, but just wait:


WASHINGTON (AP) — Postmaster General Louis DeJoy plans to cut 10,000 workers and billions of dollars from the U.S. Postal Service budget and he’ll do that working with Elon Musk ’s Department of Government Efficiency, according to a letter sent to members of Congress on Thursday.

DOGE will assist USPS with addressing “big problems” at the $78 billion-a-year agency, which has sometimes struggled in recent years to stay afloat. The agreement also includes the General Services Administration in an effort to help the Postal Service identify and achieve “further efficiencies.”

 

L4Dawg

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Is the post office in your area functioning like it usually has for the past decades? The one in our area is not even close to being reliable anymore. Today, we received all of another business's mail that is about a half block away. Two days ago, another business received our mail that is next door. Last week, we only received mail on two days. This is very common and has been happening for several years. But the worst part is the stolen checks. We've had many checks stolen while in delivery. The FBI investigated and said there was a crime ring in the Postal Service, but did nothing. Along with us, there are nearly 20 local businesses that won't send checks via mail because of stolen checks by the post office personnel. .... I was just wondering if everyone's service is going downhill or is it just our area?
If your mail goes through Memphis like ours does you are screwed.
 
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Is the post office in your area functioning like it usually has for the past decades? The one in our area is not even close to being reliable anymore. Today, we received all of another business's mail that is about a half block away. Two days ago, another business received our mail that is next door. Last week, we only received mail on two days. This is very common and has been happening for several years. But the worst part is the stolen checks. We've had many checks stolen while in delivery. The FBI investigated and said there was a crime ring in the Postal Service, but did nothing. Along with us, there are nearly 20 local businesses that won't send checks via mail because of stolen checks by the post office personnel. .... I was just wondering if everyone's service is going downhill or is it just our area?

Be careful...
 
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BulldogBlitz

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Running an all in one shipping store, I have to deal with the post office daily. They are embarrassing. They break the good employees quick. We have a good carrier, but he's only being judged by a very low bar. He still does things that make zero sense, because he's a postal drone.

I get everyone's mail from time to time in this shopping center. We redistribute when that happens. I know the others have gotten ours, and its a real mixed bag if they ever get our mail to us.

ATL seems to have most of the distribution centers beat with how bad they are. I'm holding tight that its union related and they are intentionally sabotaging the sorting.
 
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greenbean.sixpack

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I'm served by the reservoir post office and never have issues, service is good.

I hear horror stories about the DT Jxn PO though.
 

mstateglfr

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My mail delivery is the same now as it's been for decades...I don't think about it and mail keeps showing up.
Same as always.



On a related note, I continue to not understand why some expect the USPS to break even or make a profit.
- the military doesn't turn a profit.
- the Dept of Ed doesn't turn a profit.
- HHS doesn't turn a profit.
- HUD doesn't turn a profit.
- the VA doesn't turn a profit.
- police and fire don't turn a profit.
Etc etc etc.

But we force the USPS to honor contracts it didn't enter into that are a financial loss, and forced the USPS to prefund retirement benefits for 16 recent years, which financially tied a hand behind their back...and then complain that whole time when the organization isn't turning a profit.

It's really quite crazy reasoning.
 
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CochiseCowbell

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Running an all in one shipping store, I have to deal with the post office daily. They are embarrassing. They break the good employees quick. We have a good carrier, but he's only being judged by a very low bar. He still does things that make zero sense, because he's a postal drone.

I get everyone's mail from time to time in this shopping center. We redistribute when that happens. I know the others have gotten ours, and its a real mixed bag if they ever get our mail to us.

ATL seems to have most of the distribution centers beat with how bad they are. I'm holding tight that its union related and they are intentionally sabotaging the sorting.

I thought you ran a liquor store?
 
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It’s a nightmare for us. I’ve had mail from clients that didn’t get delivered for 2 months. And the same in our office for outgoing mail. And a lot of our mail is time sensitive. Fortunately almost all my clients upload information to me & I send it to them through share file. I’m to the point I don’t recommend they use US mail. And personally, I recently moved. I’d say about 10% of the mail to the old address has been forwarded. The rest has gone to the old address.
 
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DesotoCountyDawg

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The Postal Service is an absolute joke in our area. We still do alot of bill paying by mail and there’s so many times that the checks we send make it 6 weeks later and it might be someone 30 miles away. If it’s anything important we take it to FedEx or UPS and send it that way. The company that we have our land financed through explicitly tells their customers to send their payments via FedEx or UPS because so many never make it to their office in Memphis.
 
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grinningmule

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The Postal Service is an absolute joke in our area. We still do alot of bill paying by mail and there’s so many times that the checks we send make it 6 weeks later and it might be someone 30 miles away. If it’s anything important we take it to FedEx or UPS and send it that way. The company that we have our land financed through explicitly tells their customers to send their payments via FedEx or UPS because so many never make it to their office in Memphis.
The Post Office is the peak of federal gov't dysfunction with Amtrak being second.
 

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My home and business are in the same county but the business is in town and I live about 8 miles outside the city limits. If I mail a letter from my office to my home it goes from Amory to Tupelo to Memphis to Jackson to Columbus to Aberdeen, to my mailbox.
 
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RocketDawg

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My mail delivery is the same now as it's been for decades...I don't think about it and mail keeps showing up.
Same as always.



On a related note, I continue to not understand why some expect the USPS to break even or make a profit.
- the military doesn't turn a profit.
- the Dept of Ed doesn't turn a profit.
- HHS doesn't turn a profit.
- HUD doesn't turn a profit.
- the VA doesn't turn a profit.
- police and fire don't turn a profit.
Etc etc etc.

But we force the USPS to honor contracts it didn't enter into that are a financial loss, and forced the USPS to prefund retirement benefits for 16 recent years, which financially tied a hand behind their back...and then complain that whole time when the organization isn't turning a profit.

It's really quite crazy reasoning.

All of those government agencies, and others, receive funding every year in the national, state, and local budgets. The post office does not.
 

Villagedawg

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Is the post office in your area functioning like it usually has for the past decades? The one in our area is not even close to being reliable anymore. Today, we received all of another business's mail that is about a half block away. Two days ago, another business received our mail that is next door. Last week, we only received mail on two days. This is very common and has been happening for several years. But the worst part is the stolen checks. We've had many checks stolen while in delivery. The FBI investigated and said there was a crime ring in the Postal Service, but did nothing. Along with us, there are nearly 20 local businesses that won't send checks via mail because of stolen checks by the post office personnel. .... I was just wondering if everyone's service is going downhill or is it just our area?
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mstateglfr

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All of those government agencies, and others, receive funding every year in the national, state, and local budgets. The post office does not.
Yep, it is saddled by funding decisions and financial commitments and agreements that it is required to accept.
It can't set its own pricing as that is done only if an outside agency agrees. And for years it was forced to accept pricing set by the UPU Treaty, which bled the USPS.



For years and years the USPS was forced to fight with one hand behind it's back and people would then comment about how terrible USPS is at fighting.
The reality is that even with recent improvements in how USPS can charge for various services, the cost to move all this mail is still higher than what USPS is allowed to bill.

That was my point earlier, though it wasn't well made. Apologies.
If Congress wants it to be in the black, allow it to set prices that will put it in the black. And don't require it to accept prices for services that result in losses.
 

Fritz!

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Try buying a house from someone who has the same last name…after some odd teen years later and move, still get some of their mail at the new address….
 

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You may think you hate it now, but just wait:


WASHINGTON (AP) — Postmaster General Louis DeJoy plans to cut 10,000 workers and billions of dollars from the U.S. Postal Service budget and he’ll do that working with Elon Musk ’s Department of Government Efficiency, according to a letter sent to members of Congress on Thursday.

DOGE will assist USPS with addressing “big problems” at the $78 billion-a-year agency, which has sometimes struggled in recent years to stay afloat. The agreement also includes the General Services Administration in an effort to help the Postal Service identify and achieve “further efficiencies.”

Well it ain’t working great now and hasn’t really been working great in a while so maybe trying something different is a good idea?
 

paindonthurt

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My mail delivery is the same now as it's been for decades...I don't think about it and mail keeps showing up.
Same as always.



On a related note, I continue to not understand why some expect the USPS to break even or make a profit.
- the military doesn't turn a profit.
- the Dept of Ed doesn't turn a profit.
- HHS doesn't turn a profit.
- HUD doesn't turn a profit.
- the VA doesn't turn a profit.
- police and fire don't turn a profit.
Etc etc etc.

But we force the USPS to honor contracts it didn't enter into that are a financial loss, and forced the USPS to prefund retirement benefits for 16 recent years, which financially tied a hand behind their back...and then complain that whole time when the organization isn't turning a profit.

It's really quite crazy reasoning.
🤦🏼‍♂️
 

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Thank goodness for a good neighbors own the Gulf of America that delivers lostmail to where it is supposed to go
 

Maroon13

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OK...I am wrong? I guess the mail situation at my house is terrible. And I guess the USPS wasnt forced to operate under agreements and pricing it didn't choose.
You live in a different part of the country.

Memphis (and I assume Jackson too) is losing industry and business because of the lack of quality talent in the region. My wife's company is slowing moving operations out of Memphis.

I work for Uncle Sam. We should have 13-15 people in my group/team. We have 7 currently because of attrition. Even during the Biden hiring era, we could not fill positions because of lack of talent. when we tried to hire applicants from other parts of the U.S., they turned down the offer to move to Memphis.
 
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RocketDawg

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Yep, it is saddled by funding decisions and financial commitments and agreements that it is required to accept.
It can't set its own pricing as that is done only if an outside agency agrees. And for years it was forced to accept pricing set by the UPU Treaty, which bled the USPS.



For years and years the USPS was forced to fight with one hand behind it's back and people would then comment about how terrible USPS is at fighting.
The reality is that even with recent improvements in how USPS can charge for various services, the cost to move all this mail is still higher than what USPS is allowed to bill.

That was my point earlier, though it wasn't well made. Apologies.
If Congress wants it to be in the black, allow it to set prices that will put it in the black. And don't require it to accept prices for services that result in losses.
I believe the USPS also has to fund their own retirement system, which has a huge impact on their expenses.
 
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As a Memphis resident I can say our mail service is crappy at best. Years ago we used to be the last stop on the route and the mailman had to scan a barcode on our mailbox when he delivered. The service was decent then, but they changed the routes and it wasn't for the better. We get other people's mail all the time (which we redeliver if they're near) or no mail at all for several days. It's a rare occasion when I need to receive anything important via the USPS and that's a good thing.
 

The Peeper

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I don't mail any payments whatsoever any more, everything is delivered by my bank online or by me doing it on credit cards online. I have never asked anyone to send anything to my home address either since I bought it 10 years ago. I got a P.O. Box because their home delivery had gotten so inconsistent. Even with the P.O. Box I've noticed I can go days without getting anything and then BAM, the box will be full all of a sudden. I sent a small gift to a person in Hattiesburg a couple months ago, mailed it on a Tuesday and it was supposed to get there on Friday. I tracked it from Starkville to Grenada to Jackson where it sat for 3 days, to Hattiesburg, to Gulfport, to Mobile, then to Atlanta and some little podunk town in GA where it sat for 2 days. It then started the return trip to Atlanta, Mobile, Gulfport and finally to its destination in Hattiesburg 12 DAYS LATE.
I've had reason to be doing some legal work with an attorney in Ridgeland in the last few months and he told me in the beginning "do not send me anything via the usps, even their Express or Priority service. Everything has to go to UPS or FedEx. And they are another story in themselves, especially FedEx. Their Ground service is all independent carriers now and they are all former McDonalds employees that can't spell FedEx.
 

L4Dawg

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The Postal Service is an absolute joke in our area. We still do alot of bill paying by mail and there’s so many times that the checks we send make it 6 weeks later and it might be someone 30 miles away. If it’s anything important we take it to FedEx or UPS and send it that way. The company that we have our land financed through explicitly tells their customers to send their payments via FedEx or UPS because so many never make it to their office in Memphis.
Our troubles started when all of our mail, even mail going across town, started to be sent to Memphis to be sorted. We never had that many problems till then.
 

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Too much gubment bad yes. Thanks for catching on.
Brilliant analysis. Too much Gubment. So specific. When I'm on Medicare and get Social Security, the two largest Gubment programs, there better not be too much Gubment involved. Get Gubment out da TVA too.
 
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paindonthurt

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Brilliant analysis. Too much Gubment. So specific. When I'm on Medicare and get Social Security, the two largest Gubment programs, there better not be too much Gubment involved. Get Gubment out da TVA too.
Keep depending on them for your essentials and keep being let down or keep getting taxed more and more.

you do you brother. Sorry you aren't man enough to take care of yourself.
 

grinningmule

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OK...I am wrong? I guess the mail situation at my house is terrible. And I guess the USPS wasnt forced to operate under agreements and pricing it didn't choose.
I fully agree, Congress has hamstrung the USPS to keep the cost of junk mail and letters artificially low. They do the same thing to Amtrak. Fliers and advertisement mailers should cost 10.00 each.
 

mstateglfr

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Spend spend spend!!
That isnt a useful or even applicable response to what I posted.

If you ran a business that had to make a profit, but you were forced to accept contracts that were a significant financial loss and couldn't raise pricing on other work to account for your costs, I am confident you would rant about it until you lost your voice.