OT: Question about black car tags

bulldoghair

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The tags are a trick, black and white are the easiest to read for tag scanners. It's high-contrast. Makes it easier for license plate readers. There are cameras all over the state to track people. That's why they were created. A portion of the revenue goes to the LEO and firefighter fund.
 
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patdog

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Not any more. You can get a personalized one or just get a regular tag number. I think they reverse the numbers & letters on the regular ones. It’s a good cause, but no idea hiw the charity that gets the money is using it (actual benefits vs salaries, administrative & fundraising costs)
 

msudawg12

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When it originally was released, you were required to do a personalized tag. It was extremely frustrating for my wife and I because we had to come up with SOMEthing while being people that do not do personalized tags. She put a lot of thought into hers. I reached over and just pressed the number keys on the keyboard with full hand twice for mine.

They since removed that requirement after seeing the demand.....
 
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The tags are a trick, black and white are the easiest to read for tag scanners. It's high-contrast. Makes it easier for license plate readers. There are cameras all over the state to track people. That's why they were created. A portion of the revenue goes to the LEO and firefighter fund.
This ^^^^. There is a discussion online (I think it's on the DOT site or maybe in the legislature minutes, but can't remember) that sets this out. Fitting that the best way to market opting in to easier surveillance was to make it seem like the bad-azz thing to do.
 

mstateglfr

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The tags are a trick, black and white are the easiest to read for tag scanners. It's high-contrast. Makes it easier for license plate readers. There are cameras all over the state to track people. That's why they were created.
So they were created to more easily track vehicles that are in public, where there is no right to privacy?
Ok then.
 

615dawg

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The first two years they were available, they were personalized tags only. Beginning in 2025, you can get the black tags with a non-personalized number. Thats why you see so many with personalized plates.

I have told my state senator that the black plain tags obviously have demand, they should have a maroon one, a navy one, a dark green one, etc. Simple is better. The maroon Mississippi State baseball national championship tag is infinitely better than the regular Mississippi State tag, but I dont like having the year 2021 on my tag. If they offered a maroon plain tag, I'd get it. If they offered a maroon tag with the awful State script on it, I'd get it because it would look great.
 
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patdog

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So they were created to more easily track vehicles that are in public, where there is no right to privacy?
Ok then.
And it's not like it's hard to track cars anyway with the current tags. They've been routinely doing it for years in some places (like toll roads and parking lots).
 
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GloryDawg

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You can just a black tag. I have a Veteran Tag. It is 33.00 more a year. I think the money goes to the VA. It used to be a onetime fee now it's every year.
 
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So they were created to more easily track vehicles that are in public, where there is no right to privacy?
Ok then.
For someone who was on here bemoaning a lack of due process on immigration a few weeks ago, I find your logic a bit inconsistent.

You've got a deeply cynical view of the 4th amendment if your reasonable expectation of privacy is an acceptance that your vehicle can always be tracked/scanned at all times. And before you cry "no right to privacy in a public space!", you're naive if you think that LEO will limit plate scanning to public roads/highways/property (your earlier point about illegal ICE raids being a prime example).

As an aside, for as many Americans who decry living in a nanny state, it's very funny that many of those people have no problem being under unrelenting surveillance, and usually opting into it.
 
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Darryl Steight

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That seems to be the trend. I have seen some really stupid tags
I thought this trend to be stupid went out in the 90's, but it does appear to have come back with a vengeance.

I'm using it to teach my kids. We laugh and point at all the personalized tags now (LNDSHRT, IM OMFAN, GAYREB, etc.). Just trying to pass the life lesson "don't do stupid stuff" on properly to the next generation.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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Not any more. You can get a personalized one or just get a regular tag number. I think they reverse the numbers & letters on the regular ones. It’s a good cause, but no idea hiw the charity that gets the money is using it (actual benefits vs salaries, administrative & fundraising costs)
I believe that the tags only fund the death benefits trust that is administered by DPS and governed by statute:

 
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The Cooterpoot

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The tags are a trick, black and white are the easiest to read for tag scanners. It's high-contrast. Makes it easier for license plate readers. There are cameras all over the state to track people. That's why they were created. A portion of the revenue goes to the LEO and firefighter fund.
They were created by a college kid to raise money for the Burn Center initially but then first responders
 

mstateglfr

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For someone who was on here bemoaning a lack of due process on immigration a few weeks ago, I find your logic a bit inconsistent.

You've got a deeply cynical view of the 4th amendment if your reasonable expectation of privacy is an acceptance that your vehicle can always be tracked/scanned at all times. And before you cry "no right to privacy in a public space!", you're naive if you think that LEO will limit plate scanning to public roads/highways/property (your earlier point about illegal ICE raids being a prime example).

As an aside, for as many Americans who decry living in a nanny state, it's very funny that many of those people have no problem being under unrelenting surveillance, and usually opting into it.
Wow.
You really just tried to make a case for since Due Process is a right, I should not support the reality that there is a lack of privacy in public.
That is some seriously impressive twisting of reality to make such a claim. Its absurd, but its impressive.


You said I am naive if I think police will limit plate scanning to public roads, highways, and property. What other scenarios exist? You included roads and property...where else is there to scan?

- If a vehicle is on a public road, I am fine with police running the plate.
- If a vehicle is on public property, I am fine with police running the plate.
- If a vehicle is on private property but visible, I am fine with police running the plate.


^ Those really arent wild or extreme views. And they arent examples of me opting into a surveillance state. The same 3 things have been happening for over a century now- they have been found to be legal and are part of how our society functions.
 

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I thought this trend to be stupid went out in the 90's, but it does appear to have come back with a vengeance.

I'm using it to teach my kids. We laugh and point at all the personalized tags now (LNDSHRT, IM OMFAN, GAYREB, etc.). Just trying to pass the life lesson "don't do stupid stuff" on properly to the next generation.
Went to high school with Bill. Bill was dating a hot cheerleader named Molly. Molly's dad got her a new Benz and her license plate read 'BILLSGRL'. Bill and Molly broke up and every 15-18 year old at our high school learned that personalized plates last forever.
 

johnson86-1

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Wow.
You really just tried to make a case for since Due Process is a right, I should not support the reality that there is a lack of privacy in public.
That is some seriously impressive twisting of reality to make such a claim. Its absurd, but its impressive.


You said I am naive if I think police will limit plate scanning to public roads, highways, and property. What other scenarios exist? You included roads and property...where else is there to scan?

- If a vehicle is on a public road, I am fine with police running the plate.
- If a vehicle is on public property, I am fine with police running the plate.
- If a vehicle is on private property but visible, I am fine with police running the plate.


^ Those really arent wild or extreme views. And they arent examples of me opting into a surveillance state. The same 3 things have been happening for over a century now- they have been found to be legal and are part of how our society functions.
I mean, I'm not hugely concerned about it just because it's inevitable, but absolutely it will be abused by the government at some point. Hopefully it will mostly stay local and it will be jack asses tracking their ex girlfriends and not the feds using it to do oppo research on politicians that want limits on government power. But it's probably going to be both at some point unless we have a drastic overhaul of our federal government of a manner that really doesn't look likely to happen.