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I'm in favor of lifting the ban, but NOT for that reason. I don't accept any quibbling over the details of his gambling. It may seem quaint now, but back then gambling the way Rose did meant associating with organized crime and opening himself up to potential fixing schemes. There's no evidence of that happening, but there was a reason for the zero tolerance policy.
I don't consider it a "moral high horse". The intent is to protect the game, not just to enforce a certain morality. If games are rigged, fans quit watching, and everyone gets hurt.
It is rigged. Just like college football, the only real competition is between the top 5-10 organizations competing to buy the next championship.
MLB is literally in business with modern days bookies. At this point, it is a high horse.
I hear what you’re saying. I was lumping “integrity of the game” in with morality.
This is what everyone ignores. He KNEW what the consequences would be and he did it anyway. It was his choice to be banned for life.
Did the KKK members throw games or bet on baseball? Are the players busted for steroids in the HOF?
Sources: Manfred mulling family's request to remove Rose from ineligible list
Commissioner Rob Manfred is considering a petition filed on Jan. 8 by Pete Rose's family to have MLB's all-time hit leader posthumously removed from baseball's ineligible list, multiple sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN Saturday.
I don't understand this distinction.
Off the top of my head, Jeff Bagwell admitted to using them, and David Ortiz and Ivan Rodriguez probably did. They weren't really "busted" for them, but neither were Clemens or Bonds.
I think the mlb is quietly allowing them now. Makes things more fun. I’m all for letting the pitchers doctor the balls and batters roid up. Nasty breaking balls and monster home runs are fun. I also like the stealing baseball and hit-n-run. Basically, I’m ready for baseball to start, preferably the 1990’s variety
Considering MLB now partners with and profits from those who promote such “transgressions”, seems like the right thing to do would’ve been to reinstate him when they partnered with MGM, DK, Fanduel, etc.
Does not matter who he bet for or against. MLB now partners with oddsmakers and profits off of those partnerships. MLB is virtue signaling against themselves by keeping up this fight against Pete Rose
Players still cannot gamble. With that being said, I don't really like pro sports (or state governments for that matter) being directly involved in gambling.
Which is utter ********. The leagues make money off the backs of gamblers and turn right around and want to play morality police. I really wouldn’t have an issue with it if players weren’t being banned from the league for doing something the league deems acceptable as long as they make money off of it or if there was more specific language prohibiting players from betting on contests they are involved in.
So he shouldn’t be in the HOF because… his son cussed?
The league does not ban players from gambling. It bans them from gambling on baseball, or from placing illegal or offshore bets of any type.
No, he shouldn't be in the HOF because he gambled. He was also a pos on and off the field. He should have been in jail for being a pedophile.
From all accounts, Ty Cobb was a POS too, and he's a poster child for baseball. Rose at the very least was an opportunist.
I didn't say he shouldn't be in the HOF because of morals. I said he should have been in jail for being a child molester. I said he shouldn't be in the HOF because he gambled.
Well we all gamble in some form. Whether it’s mutual funds or Baltimore Ravens ML. I don’t think anyone should be punished for it.
