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As i sit closer to the middle, both sides are disgusting. The actions, lies, misbehavior are common place on both sides. 100% **** show.

I watched a hearing where republicans were asked to stand up if they believe Russia invaded Ukraine to start the war. Not one would stand up. Sheep. I watched the democrats today. Disgusting is a great word.

Both sides are pointing in the opposite direction. Both are guilty and act like a two year old that doesn't get their way. Embarrassing.
What hearing? - Nothing in the news about it.
 

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No hearing. Just town halls where they couldn’t get Russian scrot off their chins. So they were instructed to stop giving town halls.
 

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Most all brands have been made here competitively for many years and the only reason prices have risen is inflation due to Biden's treasury printing money and giving it away through NGO's for liberal nonsense causes and Democratic Party financing. Trump will clean this mess up using business acumen and ridding the system of political waste and fraud.
You don’t know how the Fed, the treasury and macroeconomics work do you?
 
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Trump has brilliantly exposed Zelensky for what he is, the Biden (puppet) of the Ukraine who is not running anything. The better minerals deal is to be made with Russia, which is much larger and solves our needs for minerals, but more importantly also puts a wedge between Russia and China militarily which is clearly critical long-term strategic thinking by Trump.
These are Russian talking points. They have been Russian talking points.
 

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No hearing. Just town halls where they couldn’t get Russian scrot off their chins. So they were instructed to stop giving town halls.
Ah - so another leftist lie. Gotcha. That makes more sense. - As for the town halls, I did find articles regarding that. It's probably a good idea to shut those down. It's hard to get the message across over Soros / Democrat funded protestors trying to shout down everything.

You don’t know how the Fed, the treasury and macroeconomics work do you?
You don't know what a woman is. Full stop. - You have no credibility to speak about anything politically.
 
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As i sit closer to the middle, both sides are disgusting. The actions, lies, misbehavior are common place on both sides. 100% **** show.

I watched a hearing where republicans were asked to stand up if they believe Russia invaded Ukraine to start the war. Not one would stand up. Sheep. I watched the democrats today. Disgusting is a great word.

Both sides are pointing in the opposite direction. Both are guilty and act like a two year old that doesn't get their way. Embarrassing.
THANK YOU!!!!! That's all I've been trying to state for weeks.

Will some politician out there stand up and have the guts to put country before party? I don't care which side of the aisle.
 

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THANK YOU!!!!! That's all I've been trying to state for weeks.

Will some politician out there stand up and have the guts to put country before party? I don't care which side of the aisle.
All you gotta do is open your eyes. His name is Donald J. Trump...... and he isn't a politician. He doesn't care about either party. He cares about himself, and yes, the country.

If he didn't care about the country, there would be zero reason for him to do the things he's doing. If all he cared about was himself, all he had to do was get elected and just sit there for four years, letting the "status quo" be the status quo....

Right?? Right.
 
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All you gotta do is open your eyes. His name is Donald J. Trump...... and he isn't a politician. He doesn't care about either party. He cares about himself, and yes, the country.

If he didn't care about the country, there would be zero reason for him to do the things he's doing. If all he cared about was himself, all he had to do was get elected and just sit there for four years, letting the "status quo" be the status quo....

Right?? Right.
I don't understand his need to lie. Or is he like George Castansa? It's not a lie if you really believe it.

I have always been in Trump's corner but he lost me when he flat out lied about who started the Ukraine war. All his sheep followed.
He is a freaking politician if he needs to lie to get his flock to follow.
 

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I don't understand his need to lie. Or is he like George Castansa? It's not a lie if you really believe it.

I have always been in Trump's corner but he lost me when he flat out lied about who started the Ukraine war. All his sheep followed.
He is a freaking politician if he needs to lie to get his flock to follow.
When? What day did he do that?
 

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When? What day did he do that?
It was one of those deals where he was trying to say if he had been POTUS the war would have never happened.....

He *LITERALLY NEVER SAID ANYWHERE* >> "Ukraine started the war."

It was simply never said. Democrats - as usual - took his words completely out of context and created their lie. These people (Democrats) are absolutely horrible, atrocious, disingenuous people.

Here's an article: it clearly says "US President Donald Trump has appeared to accuse" - Key word for democrats: "appeared" -- that became "He said" - NO HE DID NOT!!!!

 
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It was one of those deals where he was trying to say if he had been POTUS the war would have never happened.....

He *LITERALLY NEVER SAID ANYWHERE* >> "Ukraine started the war."

It was simply never said. Democrats - as usual - took his words completely out of context and created their lie. These people (Democrats) are absolutely horrible, atrocious, disingenuous people.

Here's an article: it clearly says "US President Donald Trump has appeared to accuse" - Key word for democrats: "appeared" -- that became "He said" - NO HE DID NOT!!!!

The reason I asked was because she said Trump lost her Friday when Trump told Zelenskyy to leave the White House. So now Trump lost her when this was said lol. She is full of ****! 1000007914.jpg
 

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All you gotta do is open your eyes. His name is Donald J. Trump...... and he isn't a politician. He doesn't care about either party. He cares about himself, and yes, the country.

If he didn't care about the country, there would be zero reason for him to do the things he's doing. If all he cared about was himself, all he had to do was get elected and just sit there for four years, letting the "status quo" be the status quo....

Right?? Right.
Nope. For him, it's all about power. He cares only about himself and those who can help him make more money and gain more power.
 

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Here everyone is AGAIN, arguing Dems and Republicans. Just like they want.
Its us against them not R vs D. Its good vs evil.
Its the cittizens vs permanent Washington.
It goes so deep.
Just keep playing along though. Its getting late in the game though and we are way behind
 
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This is pointless. MAGA people are never going to change as long as there are MAGA information outlets like Fox News etc. I have tried talking with a cult follower and I might as well have been talking to a tree. They are basically two types of Trump proponents: the super rich and the undereducated. If the economy tanks he will lose some of both groups but not all.
As a veteran and son of a WWII veteran, I am beginning to be ashamed of my country.
 

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Trump- promised to immediately lower prices on groceries etc.

Prices continue to rise and will only get worse with the new rounds of tariffs.

Trump- it's Biden's fault.

Classic- promise something. Can't live up to promise and blame it on the last guy. How would we view Beamer if he promised an immediate turnaround, not deliver, and then blame Muschamp? It's Trump, the sheep will follow and consumers will suffer.
 
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Trump- promised to immediately lower prices on groceries etc.

Prices continue to rise and will only get worse with the new rounds of tariffs.

Trump- it's Biden's fault.

Classic- promise something. Can't live up to promise and blame it on the last guy. How would we view Beamer if he promised an immediate turnaround, not deliver, and then blame Muschamp? It's Trump, the sheep will follow and consumers will suffer.

Many candidates promise to fix this or that on Day 1. Thinking voters obviously understand there's little to nothing that can be fixed in a single day, particularly when it's a problem 4 years in the making, and understand this to mean that it's something they will start addressing/working on on Day 1.

As to blaming Biden. Trump is in his 5th week in office (or thereabouts). Obama was blaming Bush for his problems in the 8th year of his presidency.
 

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Many candidates promise to fix this or that on Day 1. Thinking voters obviously understand there's little to nothing that can be fixed in a single day, particularly when it's a problem 4 years in the making, and understand this to mean that it's something they will start addressing/working on on Day 1.

As to blaming Biden. Trump is in his 5th week in office (or thereabouts). Obama was blaming Bush for his problems in the 8th year of his presidency.
Another spin. He's addressing it on day 1 by increasing tariffs that will adversely impact what he promised? Makes sense.

If Beamer said we are going to immediately start winning. You would take that as; we are going to start putting things in place to win a few years down the road? Even if you did believe this, you would want to see Beamer putting things in place to start moving in the right died. Trump is doing the opposite.
 

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This is pointless. MAGA people are never going to change as long as there are MAGA information outlets like Fox News etc. I have tried talking with a cult follower and I might as well have been talking to a tree. They are basically two types of Trump proponents: the super rich and the undereducated. If the economy tanks he will lose some of both groups but not all.
As a veteran and son of a WWII veteran, I am beginning to be ashamed of my country.
Speaking of cults and the undereducated - What is a woman?
 
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Another spin. He's addressing it on day 1 by increasing tariffs that will adversely impact what he promised? Makes sense.

If Beamer said we are going to immediately start winning. You would take that as; we are going to start putting things in place to win a few years down the road? Even if you did believe this, you would want to see Beamer putting things in place to start moving in the right died. Trump is doing the opposite.

In your opinion. Only time will tell what the effect of the tariffs will be.
 
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Trump- promised to immediately lower prices on groceries etc.

Prices continue to rise and will only get worse with the new rounds of tariffs.

Trump- it's Biden's fault.

Classic- promise something. Can't live up to promise and blame it on the last guy. How would we view Beamer if he promised an immediate turnaround, not deliver, and then blame Muschamp? It's Trump, the sheep will follow and consumers will suffer.
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In your opinion. Only time will tell what the effect of the tariffs will be.
I work in this space. I know what tariffs are going to do for the next several years.

It will take companies years to re-source material in which they are buying from China and Mexico to the US. Moving it to the US will create jobs that most Americans don't want, it will increase prices and it will decrease quality. There are plenty of Republicans that don't agree with the tariffs.

The bright side: we are improving relations with neighbors! I can somewhat buy into the Mexican tariffs given the drug issues. I am baffled that we are attacking our friends from the North.
 

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Here everyone is AGAIN, arguing Dems and Republicans. Just like they want.
Its us against them not R vs D. Its good vs evil.
Its the cittizens vs permanent Washington.
It goes so deep.
Just keep playing along though. Its getting latr in the game though and we are way behind
You are partly correct, but you seem to be missing a key piece, in my opinion:

When regular old joe blow democrats vote FOR the murder of 73 million babies, world wide, EVERY SINGLE YEAR...... I'd argue those numbers would make Hitler blush with envy.....no?? Hitler was evil, right? Right. I'll link the stats below.

When regular old joe blow democrats vote for the literal mutilation of children - to turn little "Johnny" into Ms. "Susan" - and feed them all kinds of drugs to further screw up their minds and bodies - that would make Dr. Josef Mengele blush with envy. No? He was evil, right? Right.

Good vs pure evil indeed. My opinion, based on math, and facts? Democrats / blue voters are pure evil. I won't have anything to do with them.

 
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I work in this space. I know what tariffs are going to do for the next several years.

It will take companies years to re-source material in which they are buying from China and Mexico to the US. Moving it to the US will create jobs that most Americans don't want, it will increase prices and it will decrease quality. There are plenty of Republicans that don't agree with the tariffs.

The bright side: we are improving relations with neighbors! I can somewhat buy into the Mexican tariffs given the drug issues. I am baffled that we are attacking our friends from the North.

I am ok with Trump's agenda of no longer letting the United States be the giant teet at which everyone get to suckle. Canada has 63 fighter jets. In their entire arsenal. They depend on us, almost entirely, for military defense. With all that money they save, they get to throw around free healthcare.
 

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I am ok with Trump's agenda of no longer letting the United States be the giant teet at which everyone get to suckle. Canada has 63 fighter jets. In their entire arsenal. They depend on us, almost entirely, for military defense. With all that money they save, they get to throw around free healthcare.
I get what your saying but we're cutting off our nose to spite our face.

I haven't heard trump suggest we are implementing tariffs because we are protecting Canada. Maybe I'm misinformed. All I have heard was fentynal referenced. Maybe Trump should convey to Canada that they have a year (or whatever time frame) to ramp-up defense spending or..... I could certainly buy into something like that. Quantitative numbers would back it up.

You and i can afford the increase prices and the stock market hit. Some can't. I feel for them, because they were promised a short term outcome that is not going to happen.
 

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I get what your saying but we're cutting off our nose to spite our face.

I haven't heard trump suggest we are implementing tariffs because we are protecting Canada. Maybe I'm misinformed. All I have heard was fentynal referenced. Maybe Trump should convey to Canada that they have a year (or whatever time frame) to ramp-up defense spending or..... I could certainly buy into something like that. Quantitative numbers would back it up.

You and i can afford the increase prices and the stock market hit. Some can't. I feel for them, because they were promised a short term outcome that is not going to happen.
Why is it o.k. for Canada to have tariffs on us but not o.k. for us to give it back to them?
 

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I am ok with Trump's agenda of no longer letting the United States be the giant teet at which everyone get to suckle. Canada has 63 fighter jets. In their entire arsenal. They depend on us, almost entirely, for military defense. With all that money they save, they get to throw around free healthcare.

I am all in favor of largely gutting the military defense spending - that goes directly against the grain of the typical (R) talking points. Spending nearly $1 trillion dollars on defense every year is beyond insane. We got plenty of nukes and conventional weapons. Take a break for a while and let the rest of the world FAFO. Rapidly. IMHO of course. Democrats hate the military and vets anyway, this should be an easy point to agree on.

But - as soon as Trump or (R)'s would bring that up, democrats would kick, scream, and fight against that too. If Trump and (R)'s found the cure for Cancer, democrats would fight it. Guaranteed.
 

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I considered myself a republican until last week. Like you, I am certainly a conservative but the lies are too much for me. The folks on here will either believe the lies or justify the lies. Regardless, they are lies.

I'm sure they'll say good riddance. They don't want the non-sheep.

Certainly Shaun!
Looking at some of your other posts, there is no way you were republican until last week. You are way far left than center as well.

Maybe you have been spending too much time in the occult echo chamber as opposed to the "cult" echo chamber. It's good to go back and forth so you aren't fully indoctrinated either way.
 

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Looking at some of your other posts, there is no way you were republican until last week. You are way far left than center as well.

Maybe you have been spending too much time in the occult echo chamber as opposed to the "cult" echo chamber. It's good to go back and forth so you aren't fully indoctrinated either way.
I admitted i have never been much into politics and am moving quickly to the middle. That said, I always considered myself a republican and vote republican. There was no way in hell i was voting for J.B. or K.H.

As mentioned, there are plenty of republicans that don't agree with the tariffs or our position with Ukraine. I guess you are suggesting they are not republicans because they are not sheep? They aren't buying into the lies so they are not republican? As also mentioned, the other side is just as bad.

I suppose I'm just figuring how dirty politicians are on both sides. They will lie, cheat and steal to get what they want. One day they have a firm belief, next day they do a 180.
 
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You are partly correct, but you seem to be missing a key piece, in my opinion:

When regular old joe blow democrats vote FOR the murder of 73 million babies, world wide, EVERY SINGLE YEAR...... I'd argue those numbers would make Hitler blush with envy.....no?? Hitler was evil, right? Right. I'll link the stats below.

When regular old joe blow democrats vote for the literal mutilation of children - to turn little "Johnny" into Ms. "Susan" - and feed them all kinds of drugs to further screw up their minds and bodies - that would make Dr. Josef Mengele blush with envy. No? He was evil, right? Right.

Good vs pure evil indeed. My opinion, based on math, and facts? Democrats / blue voters are pure evil. I won't have anything to do with them.

You need to wipe the Russian stuff off your face when you type that.
 
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Just point out where I'm wrong, or move along. ;)
Nixon knew how to manipulate and use the Bible Belt with the help of Billy Graham. You’re falling in line. Except Nixon didn’t bend over for Russia.

Do you think Putin is innocent and do you think trumo and Musk will have an adverse effect on lives worldwide? Oh wait, they already have cost 10s of thousands of lives and they’re on the way to more.

Did you know that Russia was responsible for major genocide under Stalin? He starved them. Putin is of the same ilk.

But go on fellating Elon . He’s no threat to your morality right?
 
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