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Where were you when Biden was randomly renaming historical landmarks and government installations at a breakneck pace?
Everything else aside, if you're coming into my house to request billions of dollars, just sign the deal you had already agreed to, say "thank you" and leave. It should have been that easy.
Zelensky's goal is not to end the war. His goal is endless foreign aid.
This is not a zero sum game. Anti-Zelensky does not mean pro-Putin. Both are con men. Seeking peace does not mean you love Putin. It means you see no sense in thousands more Ukrainians marching to their death in a war they simply do not have the manpower to win.
It also humors me to see European leaders bloviating on X about Ukraine having their unquestioned support and committing more money for aid. Like, gee whiz, it's about time. It's been 3 years and you're just now stepping up to stop what is 100% a European problem? Heroes.
On a humanitarian level, I hate it. But the reality is you cannot go on sinking hundreds of billions of American taxpayer dollars into a war that does not involve us and which realistically cannot be won.
Zelensky's goal is not to end the war. His goal is endless foreign aid.
This is not a zero sum game. Anti-Zelensky does not mean pro-Putin. Both are con men. Seeking peace does not mean you love Putin. It means you see no sense in thousands more Ukrainians marching to their death in a war they simply do not have the manpower to win.
It also humors me to see European leaders bloviating on X about Ukraine having their unquestioned support and committing more money for aid. Like, gee whiz, it's about time. It's been 3 years and you're just now stepping up to stop what is 100% a European problem? Heroes.
On a humanitarian level, I hate it. But the reality is you cannot go on sinking hundreds of billions of American taxpayer dollars into a war that does not involve us and which realistically cannot be won.
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Zelenskyy did not say he would not sign the deal. He spoke up for his country…and was told to leave. He asked to stay and was told to get out. The discussions should have never been in front of cameras. Vance wanted to play hardball…since Musk has overshadowed him. It was a scene from The Apprentice. (Zelenskyy should say…put on your bulletproof vest and come to Ukraine to sign the agreement. Show the world what a safe place it is.)
He chose to argue. I don't care what his point was. I don't even care if he was right. YOU are asking ME for billions of dollars. If you stand to walk away with billions of dollars and all the military equipment you need, what point is there in arguing about anything? Just suck it up, take the deal and go. And, yes, he had been advised by some democrats prior to the meeting not to sign the deal. The led to his posture during the meeting.
NOW he says he wants to sign the deal.
He met with OUR senator before the deal and at least a dozen Republicans as well as Democrats. Yes, he did not play up to Trump…so we are where we are. Another win for Russia.
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Trump's bigger goal, of course, is to force Europe to step up and take responsibility for their region. Right now, NATO is the United States. Our funding allows all the European countries to fund their cradle to the grave socialism. Why should the American taxpayer be footing the bill for their security so their citizens can have free healthcare?
This has been a European war since day one and the Europeans did what they have done for 75 years, they turned to the US to pay to solve their problem. Ukraine was (and probably still is) a very corrupt country (see Hunter Biden). Russia is a barbarous bully of a country. Neither one is really a "good guy". The US is in no danger of Russia invading, eastern Europe is, so it seems logical that Europe should be helping Ukraine in this war.
Some European leaders are at least saying the right things, that they realize they need to step up.
The question will be do they have the stones to cut the nanny state support of their citizens in favor of military funding? Probably not.
You know.....
All the people saying Putin is bad are all the same people saying "Orange Man Bad" and Trump is a natzi and Trump is a racist. Maybe Putin isn't bad after all.
All the people saying Putin is bad are all the same people saying "Orange Man Bad" and Trump is a natzi and Trump is a racist. Maybe Putin isn't bad after all.
No doubt, Putin is a bad dude. But Zelensky is no saint. The best outcome is a peace deal that stops the war. Seeking a peace deal does not mean you're aligning with Putin.
Remember when the accusation was made that Trump would start WWIII? Now he's being criticized for trying to stop a war.
I get it. It sucks for Ukraine. But what can WE do about it? And why is it primarily OUR problem to fix? Everyone wants US to have the solution. Even now, European leaders are saying any peace deal they come up will require our backing.
I'm not saying we should have never helped at all. We did. A ton. More than anyone else. But what is our obligation to endlessly fund a quagmire on another continent?
Even if the European leaders want to, it will be very difficult for the people of Europe to accept cuts to their generous govt benefits. The people of Europe have known nothing but the cradle to grave nanny state for 75 years. There is no collective memory of anyone having to provide for their own healthcare, retirement or even living in a free market economy regarding housing and transportation. Look at the protests in France and other European countries when the govt suggests people work a handful of years longer before retirement.
Again, NATO, especially the Europeans, and the UN are pushing the ''Military Industrial Complex'' narrative to keep it going or better yet escalate it.
There is an gender identity issue - not for you and me, but others in our Republic make it one. But our Republic means that the minority have rights which must be protected; whether you or I agree with the individual lifestyle as long as they are peachful. Otherwise, what's to stop someone down the road who doesn't like your religion and you suddenly dissaper one night.
And when people speak of our president like he is god or the messiah, that is also crazy, brainwashed and insane.
Do you know Trmp personally? His actions give the impression - they are designed to benefit him. And if he can benefit from you in some way, he'll use you. Otherwise,he has no use for you, and you are the enemy.
Your remarks are typical of someone who disagrees with a statement, and rather than discuss the issues/concerns like a thoughtful, caring person, merely shouts down and criticizes someone with whom they disagree.
Does anyone find it ironic that THREE years ago, when this started. Zalenskyy went into hiding because Russia was going to assasinate him yet three weeks later he was all over the news standing in public and jetting to DC to get big checks.
Sounds to me like its safer than one thinks over there.
Didn't we agree to protec Ukraine in exchange for them giving up nuclear weapons?
I don't think Trump is a racist; he is an opportunist. If you can benefit him, you are good, regardless of skin colour or religion. If you can't benefit him, he has no use for you, regardless of skin colour or religion.
It was the 3rd time Zelensky had agreed to and then welched on signing the mineral rights deal. I don't blame the president and VP for losing their cool. You're invited to the WH for what is supposed to be a cordial meeting where you sign a deal that was agreed upon in advance (for the 3rd time). Instead, you wait until you're in front of the cameras to debate and argue.
As I said above, I don't care what Zelensky's point was or even if he was right and Trump was wrong. WE are giving YOU billions of dollars in aid and military equipment. All from the American taxpayer. Don't argue. That's not the time and place for an ideological debate. In that moment, Zelensky's objective was simple: sign the agreed upon deal, say thank you and leave.
My understanding is that it's our problem because we guaranteed Ukraine's safety in exchange for their nuclear disarmamant.
By that rationale then, to what level should the rest of Europe have been involved up to this point. If the concern is for the conflict spreading here (an extremely remote likelihood), what is the level of concern for the conflict spreading in Europe? Much higher, by several factors of 10. That being the case, why have we been, far and away, the biggest provider of aid?
Largest population of any free country, with the biggest economy, and lots of $$$.
Do you think this goes back to 1946, when Europe was in shambles, and the Western Hemisphere was left relatively unscathed?
Insult Trump all you like. I didn't vote for him either.
Seriously, how do you see this conflict ending?
It is highly commendable that Trump is seeking an end the war and stop the killing.
There is a ghastly strategy going on here which is that we would fund the war enough to keep it going but not enough for Ukraine to win (which is precisely what we have done), and as a result Russia will keep throwing its young men into the meat grinder, destroying the future of their military.
Trump is bucking that strategy and saying: enough young men have died.
There is a ghastly strategy going on here which is that we would fund the war enough to keep it going but not enough for Ukraine to win (which is precisely what we have done), and as a result Russia will keep throwing its young men into the meat grinder, destroying the future of their military.
Trump is bucking that strategy and saying: enough young men have died.
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There is the distinctly realistic possibility that this was all carefully calculated by Zelensky and he got exactly what he wanted in the outcome of that meeting, which was to look like the victim and to bait European nations to commit to the continuation of the war. So far that tracks.
What other rationale could there be for him blowing up the sweetheart mineral rights deal we offered him? He want this war to go on. Indefinitely.
What other rationale could there be for him blowing up the sweetheart mineral rights deal we offered him? He want this war to go on. Indefinitely.
I am sure you weep for the north Koreans as well. Boo hoo
And I you are right why not stop funding the slaughter in Gaza?
No peace now there? Enough not enough?
Just weasel words for appeasers
Trump & Putin have the cards same **** different ********
Then buy a fu#@ing Chevrolet! Now bitc# about the jobs people will get. Oh nevermind, you only bit@# about jobs lost while saving us money!
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