OT: Rutgers is ranked #40 in 2024 USNEWS Ranking

Leonard23

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Wow, that's awesome! R highest overall ranking ever (at least that I could find):

Rutgers US news rankings

2024 #40, #15 public, #5 B1G
2023 #55, #19 public, #7 B1G
2022 #63
2021 #63, #23 public, #8 B1G
2020 #62, #22 public, #8 B1G
2019 #56, #17 public, #5 B1G
2018 #69, #25 public
2017 #70
2016 #72
2015 #70
2014 #69, #25 public
2013 #68
2012 #68, #24 public
2011 #64
2010 #66
2009 #64
2008 #59
2007 #60
2006 #60
2005 #58
2004 #60
2001 #24 public
2000 #22 public
1998 #16 public
1996 #45, #12 public

 

RUTGERS95

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We were a top 20 public national university, now we are top 15. That’s a pretty big jump. It puts on on the first page of the rankings (which lists the top 40 national universities) which is HUGE.. Now get the marketing machine moving.

Scarlet Jerry
correct on marketing, this should be all over NJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of course RU will screw that up:(
 

RUTGERS95

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Wow, that's awesome! R highest overall ranking ever (at least that I could find):

Rutgers US news rankings

2024 #40, #15 public, #5 B1G
2023 #55, #19 public, #7 B1G
2022 #63
2021 #63, #23 public, #8 B1G
2020 #62, #22 public, #8 B1G
2019 #56, #17 public, #5 B1G
2018 #69, #25 public
2017 #70
2016 #72
2015 #70
2014 #69, #25 public
2013 #68
2012 #68, #24 public
2011 #64
2010 #66
2009 #64
2008 #59
2007 #60
2006 #60
2005 #58
2004 #60
2001 #24 public
2000 #22 public
1998 #16 public
1996 #45, #12 public

in the 90s, early, it was higher. We breached the 30s
 

ivan brunetti

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It is good that Rutgers is moving up, but USNews' own rankings contradict themselves. For example, Cal is number 15 in the US while being number 4 in the world.
 

pmvon

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They changed the criteria including adding in diversity as a metric. I knew the ranking would improve as a result.
 

RUschool

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They changed the criteria including adding in diversity as a metric. I knew the ranking would improve as a result.
I don’t see diversity as a metric but first generation rate (First generation graduation rates) which may include some diversity. They also got rid of donation rate (Alumni giving average) which definitely helped Rutgers. Also include some type of salary income (College grads earning more than a high school grad).
 
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Scarlet Jerry

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I don’t see diversity as a metric but first generation rate (First generation graduation rates) which may include some diversity. They also got rid of donation rate (Alumni giving average) which definitely helped Rutgers. Also include some type of salary income (College grads earning more than a high school grad).
Yes, that’s correct. Here is how they adjusted the criteria:

The 2024 Best Colleges methodology will place greater emphasis on outcomes for graduating college students. Updates will include:
  • Increased weighting on a schools' success in graduating students from different backgrounds; and
  • Removing the following factors as ranking indicators: alumni giving, faculty with terminal degree, class size and high school standing; such factors will be included in school profiles and comparison tools for students.
By focusing on outcomes like graduation success (where RU is strong) and deemphasizing things like alumni giving (where RU is sadly weak) allowed us to pass just a few schools and move up the rankings.

Most people know that the actual number is not as significant as the “band” of schools that you are in. For example, it’s pretty clear that Ivy League schools are among the top 20 universities, but the fact that we are now in the top 40 and in the top 10% of all national universities puts us in very prestigious company. Most people also know, but may not admit, that this ranking may indicate overall quality but the criteria is not perfect; however, high school students and parent do consider these rankings when looking at schools. The perception factor is huge, especially now that the conference is expanding out west and Rutgers will see increased national exposure. The timing is perfect, but Rutgers marketing has to execute and take advantage of the opportunity.

One more thing - if we can have a breakout basketball or football run, that will also increase PR and desirability, and result in increased applications, which could influence the rankings as well.

-Scarlet Jerry
 
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Scarlet Jerry

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that's ridiculous, has no real bearing on academic quality
Diversity is not a metric, but social mobility (graduation success) is, and it makes sense to consider that, rather than alumni giving rate, as a criteria. We actually could have rigged the alumni giving number by getting almost every grad to donate one dollar a year. The rankings measured rate vs. total dollars when looking at alumni giving.
 

RUnTeX

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Most people also know, but may not admit, that this ranking may indicate overall quality but the criteria is not perfect; however, high school students and parent do consider these rankings when looking at schools. The perception factor is huge, especially now that the conference is expanding out west and Rutgers will see increased national exposure. The timing is perfect, but Rutgers marketing has to execute and take advantage of the opportunity.
It could be a once in a generation (or multiple generations) type of opportunity. Rutgers NB/Pisc (as well as the two other campuses with their rise in rankings) has to leverage this.

Any athletics success (and particularly big 2 sports) will only help add momentum.
 
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RC1978

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Yes, that’s correct. Here is how they adjusted the criteria:

The 2024 Best Colleges methodology will place greater emphasis on outcomes for graduating college students. Updates will include:
  • Increased weighting on a schools' success in graduating students from different backgrounds; and
  • Removing the following factors as ranking indicators: alumni giving, faculty with terminal degree, class size and high school standing; such factors will be included in school profiles and comparison tools for students.
By focusing on outcomes like graduation success (where RU is strong) and deemphasizing things like alumni giving (where RU is sadly weak) allowed us to pass just a few schools and move up the rankings.

Most people know that the actual number is not as significant as the “band” of schools that you are in. For example, it’s pretty clear that Ivy League schools are among the top 20 universities, but the fact that we are now in the top 40 and in the top 10% of all national universities puts us in very prestigious company. Most people also know, but may not admit, that this ranking may indicate overall quality but the criteria is not perfect; however, high school students and parent do consider these rankings when looking at schools. The perception factor is huge, especially now that the conference is expanding out west and Rutgers will see increased national exposure. The timing is perfect, but Rutgers marketing has to execute and take advantage of the opportunity.

One more thing - if we can have a breakout basketball or football run, that will also increase PR and desirability, and result in increased applications, which could influence the rankings as well.

-Scarlet Jerry
Great post! One point you stated "The perception factor is huge, especially now that the conference is expanding out west and Rutgers will see increased national exposure." As some of us RC graduates remember , whenever we left the NE and you mentioned you are a Rutgers student or graduate people thought you were equal to Ivy League. It is the friggin wealthier suburban NJ residents that look down at RU.

When I saw this post I actually went right to who is ranked below us and was surprised that certain schools were below us ie Miami.

As people have posted our PR team needs to really take this and blast it everywhere.
 

RUTGERS95

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Diversity is not a metric, but social mobility (graduation success) is, and it makes sense to consider that, rather than alumni giving rate, as a criteria. We actually could have rigged the alumni giving number by getting almost every grad to donate one dollar a year. The rankings measured rate vs. total dollars when looking at alumni giving.
diversity is a metric that has zero bearing on the academic integrity of any university for the purposes of ranking educational merits. I taught in the RU Grad Business School for 8yrs and I'm telling it has zero bearing.

helps us as RU but it's bs
 
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RUTGERS95

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When Penn State comes to town the students can chant Safety School
you laugh but when I was applying, PSU was most definitely a safety school. No one went there except those with ok grades. the BIG propelled them as it will help RU.

BIG, it does a body good...lol
 
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diversity is a metric that has zero bearing on the academic integrity of any university for the purposes of ranking educational merits. I taught in the RU Grad Business School for 8yrs and I'm telling it has zero bearing.

helps us as RU but it's bs
Read the damn articles. The ratings have more to do than just “academic integrity”. You see the word diversity and you just can’t help yourself,

“Increased weighting on a schools' success in graduating students from different backgrounds”

If you don’t think that’s important than I dunno what to tell you.
 

RUTGERS95

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Read the damn articles. The ratings have more to do than just “academic integrity”. You see the word diversity and you just can’t help yourself,

“Increased weighting on a schools' success in graduating students from different backgrounds”

If you don’t think that’s important than I dunno what to tell you.
again, has nothing to do with academic integrity, it's bs metric. You just can't see past your nose here.
 

RUBlackout7

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again, has nothing to do with academic integrity, it's bs metric. You just can't see past your nose here.
“Academic integrity” is not the only thing the rankings measure. This isn’t hard to understand.

And yes, measuring outcomes of graduates is important. Literally what college is meant for.
 
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e5fdny

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Great post! One point you stated "The perception factor is huge, especially now that the conference is expanding out west and Rutgers will see increased national exposure." As some of us RC graduates remember , whenever we left the NE and you mentioned you are a Rutgers student or graduate people thought you were equal to Ivy League. It is the friggin wealthier suburban NJ residents that look down at RU.

When I saw this post, I actually went right to who is ranked below us and was surprised that certain schools were below us ie Miami.

As people have posted our PR team needs to really take this and blast it everywhere.
Finally being part of the Common Application along with this news will only help.
 
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RUschool

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Finally being part of the Common Application along with this news will only help.
I think it will in some way help with recruiting. Some players know they aren’t going to the NFL so they may place some emphasis on academics.

It is all perception but hardly anybody criticized the methodology when other schools moved up in the rating in the past years. High school kids just see the ratings and this might help parents keep their kids in state and save a few bucks.
 
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ru66

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As I've said before, why would some that supposedly support RU have the need to search for reasons why positive news about RU has " flaws ". Sounds like the typical garbage you've heard from many NJ people that know **** about RU. It's the same with some of our " fans"-- we can beat a top 10 team it basketball but a sidewalk at the Rac had ice on it the night of the game.
 
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pmvon

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I think it will in some way help with recruiting. Some players know they aren’t going to the NFL so they may place some emphasis on academics.

It is all perception but hardly anybody criticized the methodology when other schools moved up in the rating in the past years. High school kids just see the ratings and this might help parents keep their kids in state and save a few bucks.

Anyone sending their NJ kids to state Penn or UConn needs to have their head examined. I get it if the kid wants a smaller environment, going to UD for example. But even that one doesn’t make much sense to me. Ivies or small privates, sure.
 

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I think nationally our peer group is: Penn State(#60), Maryland(#46), Pitt (#67), Wisconsin (#35), Ohio State (#43) , Uconn (#58), U Washington (#40), Illinois, Champaign (#35), Michigan State (#60). For most Liberal Arts majors, there is not a dimes worth of difference between this group.
 
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e5fdny

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As I've said before, why would some that supposedly support RU have the need to search for reasons why positive news about RU has " flaws ". Sounds like the typical garbage you've heard from many NJ people that know **** about RU. It's the same with some of our " fans"-- we can beat a top 10 team it basketball but a sidewalk at the RAC had ice on it the night of the game.
But that's the question...why is the ice there on the day/night of a game?