Toggle sidebar

OT: So is the Prime hype over? Colorado football is a mess

R

rutgersal_rivals139582

Heisman
Jun 7, 2001
33,831
41,199
113
I don’t know what program the kid is going to transfer to where he won’t have to put in the work. Wouldn’t last a week in this program. Some 5 stars have a sense of entitlement.

First two years are the toughest. Let’s see where he is year 3.

Study and prepare,” Sanders responded to a question about what he needed to see from McClain. “Be on time for meetings, show up to meetings. Understand the scheme. I check film time from each player so I can see who’s preparing, so if I don’t see that, you would be a fool to put somebody out there who’s not prepared. That goes for all our players.”
 
  • Like
Reactions: RutgersPaul, zappaa, RUskoolie and 2 others
M

mdk02

Heisman
Aug 18, 2011
25,940
18,314
113
R

RUPete

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
26,846
16,117
0
I wonder what the long-term implications of this culture shift will be at the next level, if it's not addressed soon. It feels like teaching and learning the game effectively to get to that level will take a hit with all the bouncing around.
 
M

mildone_rivals

Heisman
Dec 19, 2011
55,607
51,271
0
mdk01 said:
Maybe. But this kid's got 6 years to go.
Click to expand...
Only 3, I thought the article said.

Anyway, although there's not nearly enough data to reach an informed conclusion, I think you're right to question if it's the kid or the coach with the problem. I think there's a decent chance shedding the kid is better for Colorado than hanging onto him, if we can trust the veracity coach's comments about him.

Have to see if he shines at his next stop or fades into obscurity. But even if he shines, we'll never know if it's due to the kid changing or the different environment or something else entirely.

Not sure I see where this one kid leaving signals a serious problem with the program/coach, though. Given the current NCAA climate, kids are moving around more than ever, right?
 
Knight Shift

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
84,732
82,142
113
From a link above.

"According to Pro Football Focus, he surrendered 18 receptions on 25 targets, allowing opposing quarterbacks to compile a 114.2 NFL passer rating on balls thrown his way."

Cat Tiger GIF by IMPRINTDUBAI
 
  • Like
Reactions: BeantownKnight
A

ashokan

Heisman
May 3, 2011
25,325
19,686
0
He was weak DB in early games but got better (the talent is real).
He was a top recruit and Sander's wasn't raving about his attitude early on.
Some of this stuff can be portal posturing for NIL so who knows.
Guys come over, flip and then come back
 
J

JayDogSmooth

All-Conference
Aug 18, 2006
8,099
3,790
0
Yep totally over
Guy inherited a one and 11 team and went 4-8 last year

If he wants to stay sub 500, he’ll keep the same guys in the program

Crazy as it sounds, if he actually wants to win, he’ll get in new and more talented guys

Deion had won and exceled ant every level of his life. I would not bet against him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Big East Beast, Roy_Faulker, scarletrat and 3 others
MADHAT1

MADHAT1

Heisman
Apr 1, 2003
30,383
15,394
113
JayDogSmooth said:
I certainly don’t think he’s going to make this a career destination, he’ll likely parlay it into something bigger and better

I would love it if he came here after Gregg retires
Click to expand...
Sanders will be headed to the pros if he succeeds at Colorado, Rutgers won't give Deion the boatload of money he'll be asking for,
If Norvell moves on from FSU and Deion makes the Buffs a winner, he'll be a Seminole again
But if Colorado doesn't do much better , the next 3 years , than last season under him, his hype won't save his job there .
Right now he's looking good, but if his program doesn't improve more, all the hype surrounding Sanders will turn to condemnation by the disappointed fanbase and the same media that once worshiped him
 
  • Like
Reactions: rubigtimenow
J

JayDogSmooth

All-Conference
Aug 18, 2006
8,099
3,790
0
MADHAT1 said:
Sanders will be headed to the pros if he succeeds at Colorado, Rutgers won't give Deion the boatload of money he'll be asking for,
If Norvell moves on from FSU and Deion makes the Buffs a winner, he'll be a Seminole again
But if Colorado doesn't do much better , the next 3 years , than last season under him, his hype won't save his job there .
Right now he's looking good, but if his program doesn't improve more, all the hype surrounding Sanders will turn to condemnation by the disappointed fanbase and the same media that once worshiped him
Click to expand...
I’d be shocked if Deion ever coached FSU

He’ll always be a Nole and his beloved in Tallahassee, but the Travis Hunter situation coupled with some of his comments has pissed off a lot of people
 
S

sct1111

All-American
Nov 30, 2014
6,046
8,236
113
Deion couldn't even win the hbcu bowl game with 5 star players. He's mismanaged his team and coaches horribly and trashed his own offensive line. Deion cares about Deion first and maybe his sons after that.
 
A

ashokan

Heisman
May 3, 2011
25,325
19,686
0
sct1111 said:
Deion couldn't even win the hbcu bowl game with 5 star players. He's mismanaged his team and coaches horribly and trashed his own offensive line. Deion cares about Deion first and maybe his sons after that.
Click to expand...
He went 12-1 - only lost the bowl because the white TE choked bad and dropped a ball all alone in end zone. He knew the kid was devastated and spent a lot of time with him in locker. He used to pay out-of-pocket for training facilities and meals for team. Travis Hunter was not only the one player on team with 5 stars - he was the first 5 star recruit in HBCU history




Deion Sanders consoled his player Hayden Hagler after a dropped TD in overtime​

 
  • Like
Reactions: Knight Shift
R

RU848789

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
64,254
43,366
113
Morrischiano said:

Colorado's top recruit from last year (a 5* CB) is entering the portal, their 2024 recruiting class is ranked in the 80's, they had 25 players leave via the portal and Prime's kids are begging OLs to tranfer in.

It doesn't seem like HC Prime and their AD have a plan for sustainable success in Colorado. Sheesh.
Click to expand...
Would love to see him crash and burn - not a fan of the flashy types - never have been.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FastMJ
R

RU from Jersey_rivals

All-Conference
Jan 16, 2002
2,609
1,645
0
I am not a fan of the "look at me" Dion, and I think the jury is still out on him as a coach. He is certainly trying to go the Jimmys and Joes rout vs the Xs and Os route. Luckily, he had his son as one of the Jimmys or else last year would have been super ugly. The big test will be what does his team do without his son and all of "his" guys after next season.
 
V

Virginiarufan

All-Conference
Jul 26, 2001
3,656
2,561
113
MADHAT1 said:
Greg came close
Chris Ash

2018Rutgers1–110–9
2019Rutgers1–3*0–2

Greg
2020Rutgers3–63–6
2021Rutgers5–82–7L Gator
2022Rutgers4–81–8
2023Rutgers7–63–6W Pinstripe
but no cigar or statue deserved until Rutgers football is a constant winner
Click to expand...
Those were 3 Big Ten wins as well, he had no easy non-cons and only played a 9 game season because of COVID. I think it’s safe to say he could have added at least 2 more wins against a Howard and a Temple type team that year to get to 5. No one erected a statue for him. Sanders was 1-8 in the PAC 12, which was excellent last year but he lost to Stanford.

Deion is not a coach, he is a team mom with a whistle. Love his motivational speeches, but seriously, this dude does not instill learned grit, discipline or mental determination. We have his sons running their mouths in every which way, taunting teams and other players, and the kids getting more upset about losing their gold chains in the locker room than getting whipped on the field. The fact that his players even had gold chains and jewelry in the locker room speaks volumes. This guy isn’t a coach.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MulletCork and colbert17
V

Virginiarufan

All-Conference
Jul 26, 2001
3,656
2,561
113
RU from Jersey said:
I am not a fan of the "look at me" Dion, and I think the jury is still out on him as a coach. He is certainly trying to go the Jimmys and Joes rout vs the Xs and Os route. Luckily, he had his son as one of the Jimmys or else last year would have been super ugly. The big test will be what does his team do without his son and all of "his" guys after next season.
Click to expand...
When the sons go he’ll leave as well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FastMJ, RU Diesel07110, RU from Jersey_rivals and 1 other person
S

sct1111

All-American
Nov 30, 2014
6,046
8,236
113
ashokan said:
He went 12-1 - only lost the bowl because the white TE choked bad and dropped a ball all alone in end zone. He knew the kid was devastated and spent a lot of time with him in locker. He used to pay out-of-pocket for training facilities and meals for team. Travis Hunter was not only the one player on team with 5 stars - he was the first 5 star recruit in HBCU history




Deion Sanders consoled his player Hayden Hagler after a dropped TD in overtime​

Click to expand...

And then he left the team in the dust and took their best players along with him. Dieon is not about the people. Deion is about Deion. There's no coincidence that the camera just happened to be there. Lol.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RedTeam1994 and MulletCork
A

ashokan

Heisman
May 3, 2011
25,325
19,686
0
sct1111 said:
And then he left the team in the dust and took their best players along with him. Dieon is not about the people. Deion is about Deion. There's no coincidence that the camera just happened to be there. Lol.
Click to expand...

He got a better job offer all around.

He met with his coaches at a restaurant and asked them how they would feel about Colorado.
They liked the idea and Deion called Colorado AD right there and accepted the offer.
Helping the decision was fact that Jackson State had bad finances - they couldn't even maintain facilities properly nevermind do the NIL things. Sanders was paying for things the college should have been paying for.

The "Deion as CFB's Putin" thing doesn't really hold up
 
B

Brisket and Bourbon

All-Conference
Jun 22, 2023
1,138
1,112
0
ashokan said:
He got a better job offer all around.

He met with his coaches at a restaurant and asked them how they would feel about Colorado.
They liked the idea and Deion called Colorado AD right there and accepted the offer.
Helping the decision was fact that Jackson State had bad finances - they couldn't even maintain facilities properly nevermind do the NIL things. Sanders was paying for things the college should have been paying for.

The "Deion as CFB's Putin" thing doesn't really hold up
Click to expand...
Better to be CFB Putin that CFB Biden! 😆

That aside, the new NIL CFB reality is perfect of Deion…I would wager he will do very well wherever he is.
 
T

tico brown

Heisman
Oct 16, 2005
43,076
13,095
93
JayDogSmooth said:
I certainly don’t think he’s going to make this a career destination, he’ll likely parlay it into something bigger and better

I would love it if he came here after Gregg retires
Click to expand...
Would never happen. Heads would explode if Admin even thought about bringing Sanders in.
 
Y

yesrutgers01

Heisman
Nov 9, 2008
121,380
36,923
113
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom