OT (sort of): Rich Rod joins Terry Bowden

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A lot of talent in and around Monroe.

We will see what happens. But ULM is trying to keep up. Their program went to **** quick.
I would have went with a young coach but they are recycling the old guys.
 

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Rod truly has fallen on hard times. There are slim pickings in this group
 
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I thought he did a decent job at Ole Miss.

Only issue I had is at QB.
I thought Matt Corrall should have been playing more. Actually thought he was a Top 5 QB when he left HS.

The reason why people are doubting him today is that he isn't the greatest offensive mind around developing passing QBs.


SunBelt is a tough conference. Even Neal Brown spoke on it.

Funny because CUSA raided the conference a few years ago and the conference has improved.

But ULM hasn't.

They have actually regressed.


Until Rich Rod figures out that teams want passing QBs his career will dead end at the G5 level
 

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I'd say after the success they had this year...the Sun Belt leap-frogged C-USA..but as always things can change in a hurry.
 
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SunBelt matched up with the CUSA and just beat the breaks off them in the bowl games.

The UTSA/ULL game was the only game close.

CUSA sports have went to ****.
SunBelt passed them up.

Both conferences aren't any good at basketball
The difference in football and baseball is huge. Especially because Rice has their baseball program stuck in the mud


We will see what happens with Terry and Rich Rod in Monroe.
 

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I thought he did a decent job at Ole Miss.

Only issue I had is at QB.
I thought Matt Corrall should have been playing more. Actually thought he was a Top 5 QB when he left HS.

The reason why people are doubting him today is that he isn't the greatest offensive mind around developing passing QBs.


SunBelt is a tough conference. Even Neal Brown spoke on it.

Funny because CUSA raided the conference a few years ago and the conference has improved.

But ULM hasn't.

They have actually regressed.


Until Rich Rod figures out that teams want passing QBs his career will dead end at the G5 level

CUSA is a sewage dump of teams not wanted by anyone else.
 
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Certain SunBelt schools wanted a merger...

The arrogant LA Tech AD acted like those schools weren't good enough. Including ULM. Ruston, LA is only 20 something miles from Monroe

They want to divide it East to West.
 

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Certain SunBelt schools wanted a merger...

The arrogant LA Tech AD acted like those schools weren't good enough. Including ULM. Ruston, LA is only 20 something miles from Monroe

They want to divide it East to West.

They are right those CUSA teams are not good enough.
 

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Keeping appearances.
LA Tech is in a better position because the CUSA has more schools closer. They aren't travelling East too often.
But ULL has to play in Boone, NC.
Much rather play in Houston or Hattiesburg.

WVU has to travel westward 9 games out of the year in basketball and 5 or 4 depending on the year for football. Tell those soft shelled crab lovers to suck it up.
 
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WVU has to travel westward 9 games out of the year in basketball and 5 or 4 depending on the year for football. Tell those soft shelled crab lovers to suck it up.

Huge revenue difference.

The idea is to cut travel cost so you have more revenue.

Some schools like LA Tech look at themselves as superior. If you look at the series history between them against ULM and ULL you see why.
 
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I'm interested to see what all that Mountaineer-ized coaching can do for Louisiana Monroe , at that level. Never going to be LSU or Alabama or Auburn but there's a place in the sun for every level of conference. Terry did better at the University of Akron than anyone had done in decades. Winning one game a season had become normal before Terry. Rich made my life enjoyable while he was a WVU; Trickett family has a warm spot in my heart, too. I wish them well. Now I can stop ignoring the ULM scores.
 

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Yeah for Terry. He was #1 coach at annual loser program where he also lost.
Akron
1-11
5-7
5-7
8-5
5-7
7-7
4-8

Before Terry
1-11
1-11
3-9
5-7
4-8
5-7
7-6
6-5
7-5
4-8
4-7
6-5

This was from 2000 to 2018. Looks pretty freaking similar to me. Terry had 1 season over .500. Before him there was 8 seasons above .500

35 years of Akron football has been about the same as Terry Bowden experience. Look it up.

Quit pumping sunshine up Terry's butt.
 
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They only had 2 player drafted from Akron...

On the surface it looks like they didn't do too much there.
But you also have to account for undrafted players

He has 4 undrafted players in the NFL as of right now.


I don't see anything there on the surface to say Terry was great.
I am not close enough to Akron to say the difference between his teams and everyone elses for sure

You want to look at...

1) Wins and Losses

2) NFL Talent


At least need a coach to accomplish one of these things.
Because the NFL Talent sets you up if you do change coaches.
 
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They only had 2 player drafted from Akron...

On the surface it looks like they didn't do too much there.
But you also have to account for undrafted players

He has 4 undrafted players in the NFL as of right now.


I don't see anything there on the surface to say Terry was great.
I am not close enough to Akron to say the difference between his teams and everyone elses for sure

You want to look at...

1) Wins and Losses

2) NFL Talent


At least need a coach to accomplish one of these things.
Because the NFL Talent sets you up if you do change coaches.

Terry did better at the University of Akron than anyone had done in decades. Winning one game a season had become normal before Terry. I rest my case. Just as the 2 coaches who preceded Nick Saban at Alabama had losing seasons, and Saban NEVER has had a losing season at Alabama (7-6 first season, double-digit in victories every season since then), I evaluate by how well a coach does compared t those who preceded him at the same school. It's easier for a new coach to have good W-L records at Ohio State than at Akron, by far. What Terry did at Akron was astounding. 1-win seasons were normal at Akron before Terry. He turned that around. He did fine at Auburn, too.
 

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They only had 2 player drafted from Akron...

On the surface it looks like they didn't do too much there.
But you also have to account for undrafted players

He has 4 undrafted players in the NFL as of right now.


I don't see anything there on the surface to say Terry was great.
I am not close enough to Akron to say the difference between his teams and everyone elses for sure

You want to look at...

1) Wins and Losses

2) NFL Talent


At least need a coach to accomplish one of these things.
Because the NFL Talent sets you up if you do change coaches.
Coaches jobs are to win Not put players in the NFL.
 

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Terry did better at the University of Akron than anyone had done in decades. Winning one game a season had become normal before Terry. I rest my case. Just as the 2 coaches who preceded Nick Saban at Alabama had losing seasons, and Saban NEVER has had a losing season at Alabama (7-6 first season, double-digit in victories every season since then), I evaluate by how well a coach does compared t those who preceded him at the same school. It's easier for a new coach to have good W-L records at Ohio State than at Akron, by far. What Terry did at Akron was astounding. 1-win seasons were normal at Akron before Terry. He turned that around. He did fine at Auburn, too.

FALSE.
 
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Coaches jobs are to win Not put players in the NFL.

Combination of both like I said.
Yes winning is #1

But producing NFL players helps your recruiting so if you are trying to create a program you want to be able to sell things

End of the day high school recruits look out for themselves
They want to play in the NFL

So if you are scraping the bottom of the barrel for talent at a program like ULM you want to sell the NFL.


The amount of talent that comes out of Ouachita Parish is more than some states.

Do a 250 square mile radius around Monroe, LA.
Enough talent even at the G5 level to win and put players in the NFL.

You already see what Billy Napier is doing in Lafayette.
Jeff Traylor has started at UTSA
 

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Coaches jobs are to win Not put players in the NFL.

Coaching jobs are theater.

They are suppose to provide the illusion of winning. When the illusion wears off, they start all over...and the marks lick it up.

Pro-wrestling is more real.
 

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Combination of both like I said.
Yes winning is #1

But producing NFL players helps your recruiting so if you are trying to create a program you want to be able to sell things

End of the day high school recruits look out for themselves
They want to play in the NFL

So if you are scraping the bottom of the barrel for talent at a program like ULM you want to sell the NFL.


The amount of talent that comes out of Ouachita Parish is more than some states.

Do a 250 square mile radius around Monroe, LA.
Enough talent even at the G5 level to win and put players in the NFL.

You already see what Billy Napier is doing in Lafayette.
Jeff Traylor has started at UTSA

It's just a tv show.
 
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HS Recruits want to better their lives. They all have difference priorities.
At the end of the day there isn't a single player who walks into a CFB scholarship.

There is a reason they are there. Often times it is $$$$.

So as a CFB coach you are trying to provide the best opportunity for them to get $$$$

The NFL is one of the best ways to motivate a player to work his *** off.

So ultimately that dictates the W and L record of coaches
 

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HS Recruits want to better their lives. They all have difference priorities.
At the end of the day there isn't a single player who walks into a CFB scholarship.

There is a reason they are there. Often times it is $$$$.

So as a CFB coach you are trying to provide the best opportunity for them to get $$$$

The NFL is one of the best ways to motivate a player to work his *** off.

So ultimately that dictates the W and L record of coaches

Correct.

Coaches sell players on NFL careers which they seldom ever get.

They need people for their tv show.

If coaches actually cared about giving these kids a better life they'd funnel them into engineering programs....