OT : Spot Silver now over $80 an ounce

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How much do you think a good Winchester rifle costs in 2025 ?? I might be interested in selling you a couple if you are in the market for some
Winchester hasn’t made a good rifle in 40 years. If you had a new in box Model 70 Featherlight in you gun safe from 1980 or so, what would you ask for it?
 

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I’ve been on a precious metals play since Spring ‘25. My portfolio is up 86% as of yesterday. And the silver mix is by far the strongest earner (amongst gold, platinum, copper and uranium).
 
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For those who follow this, there is something strange going on. Short squeeze, rumored bank failure. High industrial use for defense, IT. Strange times.

those old silver dollars are now worth quite a bit
This isn't speculative. There's a limit to yearly mining production, and we've reached it. Samsung supposedly has a new EV silver core battery that will consume 19% of yearly capacity, and a Chinese competitor will be about the same. Silver's used in virtually all electronics. Any uptick in production there, combined with new silver batteries, plus people trying to buy to hedge against USD devaluation means there's nothing that will make it go down.

Hell, Costco last week limited silver ounce bars to one per customer.

I bought physical gold and silver during 2001-2004, but lately I just invest in GLD and SLV ETFs. They've done extremely well.

People saying it's peaking are ignoring market conditions.

I used to try to short the USD with ultrashort BS like TBT ultrashort. These fundamentally suck due to the fact they compare USD value to other central bank currencies--and the USD in this bizarre context holds value.

Silver comex spot will be $150 by March. Only thing to beware with ETFs for tracking wholesale for precious metals is the IRS shitheads treat it as ornamental/collectible, so cashing out could mean 28% capital gains even after a year.

I'm not selling it. My GLD positions from 2009 have returned over 365%. SLV is 199% in the past year.
 
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Always wondered what you'd do with "physical gold" coins that you see advertised all the time.
Don't buy numismatic collectibles. Buy bullion. You pay a premium for the BS "collectible" factor on pirate coins, but bullion sells for wholesale. Plus you pay wholesale.
 
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I started researching precious metals a few years ago and ran across this statement. In 1875 an ounce of gold would buy a good Winchester rifle, in 2025 an ounce of gold will buy a good Winchester rifle. Gold hasn’t gained value it just keeps up with inflation.
Meanwhile, how much did that Winchester cost then in USD vs now? Metals have retained relative value.
 
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I’ve been on a precious metals play since Spring ‘25. My portfolio is up 86% as of yesterday. And the silver mix is by far the strongest earner (amongst gold, platinum, copper and uranium).
Silver is THE short to medium-term play, and we're nowhere near the top.
 
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Meanwhile, how much did that Winchester cost then in USD vs now? Metals have retained relative value.
I get that what gold and silver are doing right now is great but historically it’s not a good investment compared to a balanced portfolio or a balanced fund. I own physical silver, not as an investment but as a hedge against a total societal collapse. Gold and silver will always have bartering value while stocks, bonds, and mutual funds only have value as long as we as a society believe they do.
 
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I get that what gold and silver are doing right now is great but historically it’s not a good investment compared to a balanced portfolio or a balanced fund. I own physical silver, not as an investment but as a hedge against a total societal collapse. Gold and silver will always have bartering value while stocks, bonds, and mutual funds only have value as long as we as a society believe they do.
I do the same. I have physical gold and silver for the zombie apocalypse. But I love precious metal ETFs in my IRA, along with conventional funds.
 

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ok....serious question.....if I have about 20-25lbs. of .999 pure one ounce silver bars and coins.....should I go sell that stuff? When I was young, I was gifted these things all the time
 

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ok....serious question.....if I have about 20-25lbs. of .999 pure one ounce silver bars and coins.....should I go sell that stuff? When I was young, I was gifted these things all the time
Me personally, I’m holding. I don’t see any scenario where the printing presses stop and the dollar regains value. A currency reset/digital currency is the end game.
 
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ok....serious question.....if I have about 20-25lbs. of .999 pure one ounce silver bars and coins.....should I go sell that stuff? When I was young, I was gifted these things all the time
My FIL is big into silver/gold. He told me that it would be over 150 by summer. Sounds hard to believe but he told me in September it would be over 90 by the end of the year and I was skeptical.
 
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Me personally, I’m holding. I don’t see any scenario where the printing presses stop and the dollar regains value. A currency reset/digital currency is the end game.
Exactly. The current Fed is the THIRD national bank, and it's going to suffer the same inevitable fate.
 
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ok....serious question.....if I have about 20-25lbs. of .999 pure one ounce silver bars and coins.....should I go sell that stuff? When I was young, I was gifted these things all the time
Keep it a bit longer, and you might be able to pay off your house.
 

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Keep it a bit longer, and you might be able to pay off your house.
It’s really crazy, if silver hits 200-300 dollars an ounce……hard to imagine. Lots of regular folks have old silver dollars laying around. Banks a few years ago still had 40% silver half dollars in their rolls.
 
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Both of those ceased to exist simply because their respective charter was not renewed due to political bickering. That can't happen with the Fed.
Yeah, we missed that chance in 2013. But there comes a point where losing 96% of the value of the USD impairs Fed credibility to the point that it collapses.
 

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My parents bought a bunch of silver coins 10 years ago. Dad died 3 years ago and Mom is an assisted living facility with dementia. I have a POA for my mom so I can make financial decisions. Should I sell the silver for her? Where would I even take the coins?
 

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My parents bought a bunch of silver coins 10 years ago. Dad died 3 years ago and Mom is an assisted living facility with dementia. I have a POA for my mom so I can make financial decisions. Should I sell the silver for her? Where would I even take the coins?
im holding, the stuff is going on a straight line up

116.60 today, unbelievable
 
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My parents bought a bunch of silver coins 10 years ago. Dad died 3 years ago and Mom is an assisted living facility with dementia. I have a POA for my mom so I can make financial decisions. Should I sell the silver for her? Where would I even take the coins?

A lot of pawn shops and jewelry stores will buy it but be warned they can take a pretty good cut out of it.
 

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A lot of pawn shops and jewelry stores will buy it but be warned they can take a pretty good cut out of it.
See what % of spot they give you. They should buy as close to spot as possible, I would not sell for much Below spot. In fact since it’s going straight upwards I am not selling at all right now.
 
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Look what my dad just sent me to ask what was going on with silver. Apparently he picked this up Christmas '93 - someone traded it + some cash for a 1985 Oldsmobile at the time. He had forgotten about it until I told him that pre '64 quarters might be worth $15.

 

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Wake Robbin in Flowood is paying 85-95% of spot. I think $125 is my number to pull the trigger.
 

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Don't buy here. Sell it all and go long on inverse ETFs.
That would be exactly the wrong thing to do. You realize the price has been artificially suppressed for decades and more. And the big banks have more paper silver out there than actually exists in physical silver for purchase. Every country is closing their doors to exporting silver. Precious metals will be backing our new currencies real soon. Silver will crash the banks, and gold will kill the Fed. That’s the plan. It’s not coming down. It will continue to rise to prices we can’t even fathom. Do more research. Dig. Don’t listen to any mouthpieces. Dig yourself. It’s out there.
 

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Precious metals will be backing our new currencies real soon. Silver will crash the banks, and gold will kill the Fed. That’s the plan. It’s not coming down. It will continue to rise to prices we can’t even fathom. Do more research. Dig. Don’t listen to any mouthpieces. Dig yourself. It’s out there.
Oh, do tell more. This could be a helluva good SPS thread if it catches.

Just to make sure your claim is being represented accurately...there is an actual plan to change the global monetary policy back to the gold(and silver) standard and it will happen because metal prices will cause a widespread crash to banks and the US Fed.
 
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That would be exactly the wrong thing to do. You realize the price has been artificially suppressed for decades and more. And the big banks have more paper silver out there than actually exists in physical silver for purchase. Every country is closing their doors to exporting silver. Precious metals will be backing our new currencies real soon. Silver will crash the banks, and gold will kill the Fed. That’s the plan. It’s not coming down. It will continue to rise to prices we can’t even fathom. Do more research. Dig. Don’t listen to any mouthpieces. Dig yourself. It’s out there.
It's now down 20% from when I posted. That was a major blow off top that couldn't be sustained.
 

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Comex dumped like a billion paper ounces. They're holding a beach ball underwater. Spot in China is still over $120.
There were some absolutely massive gains in this multi month run up and now in the current sell off. Lots of day traders and longtime silver hoarders made more than just gas money and then there was a segment of people who were too late to buy and they will be caught in the downdraft. Commodities are really fun to watch when their cycle comes around.
 
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There were some absolutely massive gains in this multi month run up and now in the current sell off. Lots of day traders and longtime silver hoarders made more than just gas money and then there was a segment of people who were too late to buy and they will be caught in the downdraft. Commodities are really fun to watch when their cycle comes around.
The overall conditions leading to the run up are still there. Industrial demand increasing, especially with AI chips and data centers building out everywhere. Governments are hoarding.

The question is what happens when the paper market completely disconnects from wholesale physical price. We're seeing that the past two days.
 
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Slv stock is at $75 after market. Should i buy some Monday after the markets open? What do ya’ll expect it to do?
 
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Slv stock is at $75 after market. Should i buy some Monday after the markets open? What do ya’ll expect it to do?
It's going to go up. The question from the last two days is whether the paper market retains any credibility.

Silver closed at 122 in Shanghai today.