OT : Spot Silver now over $80 an ounce

Dawgbite

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How much do you think a good Winchester rifle costs in 2025 ?? I might be interested in selling you a couple if you are in the market for some
Winchester hasn’t made a good rifle in 40 years. If you had a new in box Model 70 Featherlight in you gun safe from 1980 or so, what would you ask for it?
 
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For those who follow this, there is something strange going on. Short squeeze, rumored bank failure. High industrial use for defense, IT. Strange times.

those old silver dollars are now worth quite a bit
This isn't speculative. There's a limit to yearly mining production, and we've reached it. Samsung supposedly has a new EV silver core battery that will consume 19% of yearly capacity, and a Chinese competitor will be about the same. Silver's used in virtually all electronics. Any uptick in production there, combined with new silver batteries, plus people trying to buy to hedge against USD devaluation means there's nothing that will make it go down.

Hell, Costco last week limited silver ounce bars to one per customer.

I bought physical gold and silver during 2001-2004, but lately I just invest in GLD and SLV ETFs. They've done extremely well.

People saying it's peaking are ignoring market conditions.

I used to try to short the USD with ultrashort BS like TBT ultrashort. These fundamentally suck due to the fact they compare USD value to other central bank currencies--and the USD in this bizarre context holds value.

Silver comex spot will be $150 by March. Only thing to beware with ETFs for tracking wholesale for precious metals is the IRS shitheads treat it as ornamental/collectible, so cashing out could mean 28% capital gains even after a year.

I'm not selling it. My GLD positions from 2009 have returned over 365%. SLV is 199% in the past year.
 
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I started researching precious metals a few years ago and ran across this statement. In 1875 an ounce of gold would buy a good Winchester rifle, in 2025 an ounce of gold will buy a good Winchester rifle. Gold hasn’t gained value it just keeps up with inflation.
Meanwhile, how much did that Winchester cost then in USD vs now? Metals have retained relative value.
 

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Meanwhile, how much did that Winchester cost then in USD vs now? Metals have retained relative value.
I get that what gold and silver are doing right now is great but historically it’s not a good investment compared to a balanced portfolio or a balanced fund. I own physical silver, not as an investment but as a hedge against a total societal collapse. Gold and silver will always have bartering value while stocks, bonds, and mutual funds only have value as long as we as a society believe they do.
 
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I get that what gold and silver are doing right now is great but historically it’s not a good investment compared to a balanced portfolio or a balanced fund. I own physical silver, not as an investment but as a hedge against a total societal collapse. Gold and silver will always have bartering value while stocks, bonds, and mutual funds only have value as long as we as a society believe they do.
I do the same. I have physical gold and silver for the zombie apocalypse. But I love precious metal ETFs in my IRA, along with conventional funds.
 

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ok....serious question.....if I have about 20-25lbs. of .999 pure one ounce silver bars and coins.....should I go sell that stuff? When I was young, I was gifted these things all the time
 

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ok....serious question.....if I have about 20-25lbs. of .999 pure one ounce silver bars and coins.....should I go sell that stuff? When I was young, I was gifted these things all the time
Me personally, I’m holding. I don’t see any scenario where the printing presses stop and the dollar regains value. A currency reset/digital currency is the end game.
 
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ok....serious question.....if I have about 20-25lbs. of .999 pure one ounce silver bars and coins.....should I go sell that stuff? When I was young, I was gifted these things all the time
My FIL is big into silver/gold. He told me that it would be over 150 by summer. Sounds hard to believe but he told me in September it would be over 90 by the end of the year and I was skeptical.
 
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