OT: St Francis College cuts all sports

ru66

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That sucks for city kids that got the chance for college and basketball. Didn't they play in an old converted movie theater?
 

MADHAT1

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Well that ends my picking them to pull a few big upsets and make the sweet 16 in next years tourney 😝
 

scarletnewyorker2006

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Good for them. Sports ain’t got **** to do with school, so if the sports are just sucking money away from academics instead of adding to it, it would be irresponsible not to get rid of them. I hope we see a ton more of this.
 
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MADHAT1

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Good for them. Sports ain’t got **** to do with school, so if the sports are just sucking money away from academics instead of adding to it, it would be irresponsible not to get rid of them. I hope we see a ton more of this.
Glad to hear your POV Professor Killingsworth 😉
Will you share the names of schools in your "tons more" programs need to go.
Would Rutgers be among them 🤔
 

Knightmoves

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St Frankie Brooklyn throws in the sports towel. Surely more schools in a similar financial situation will follow.

Makes one wonder about what many of the D3 schools will do going forward. Sports must be a major financial drain for almost all of them. Football is probably the biggest loss leader in D3.
 

scarletnewyorker2006

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Glad to hear your POV Professor Killingsworth 😉
Will you share the names of schools in your "tons more" programs need to go.
Would Rutgers be among them 🤔
No, not Rutgers, at least not football or men’s basketball. We have sports bringing millions upon millions to the school. Those sports teams should continue. I’d like RU to eliminate all sports that are not bringing in money. Would much prefer to see those scholarships go towards students earning it in the classroom.

As for which schools, any that are not turning a profit, or at least the sports at those schools not turning a profit.
 

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No, not Rutgers, at least not football or men’s basketball. We have sports bringing millions upon millions to the school. Those sports teams should continue. I’d like RU to eliminate all sports that are not bringing in money. Would much prefer to see those scholarships go towards students earning it in the classroom.

As for which schools, any that are not turning a profit, or at least the sports at those schools not turning a profit.
That’s a ridiculous take. This isn’t supposed to be the NBA, NFL, or MLB .
Now if you want to say college sports should be de-emphasized, played by real students and coached by real educators (not the pitino’s , miller’s and Howard’s of the world) , well then sir you would have a valid and thoughtful argument
 
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scarletnewyorker2006

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That’s a ridiculous take. This isn’t supposed to be the NBA, NFL, or MLB .
If it can make money for the school, why not? “Supposed to be” or what you want it to be? I have zero problem with professional college sports, students who are also employees. If it helps the school financially, I’m all for it.

If we’re going to have money draining sports, I’d rather those be intramurals that will offer athletics to an exponentially larger population at a fraction of the expense. This is a worse option than simply eliminating all financial drains altogether but at least more students can participate and benefit.
 

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It's unusual that SFC went all the way rather than just eliminate the sports that cost the most money to operate. It will be interesting to the $$ figures that they are saving.

The athletes will be the ones affected as I doubt that there has ever been much of a fan base, among students or alumni. Some will be able to transfer without a challenge from the NCAA, as happened when Hofstra dropped football several years back.

I agree with the posters above who stated that there will likely be many other universities who make the same choice.
 

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As an alumnus of SFC (‘68) I am saddened by the move but I can understand it. Their mission statement, as shown to me by Brother Urban, the president of the school at the time, was “to provide an education to those young men (it was an all male school back then) on whom society had turned it’s back.” they have always worked to keep the student cost as low as possible. I guess the finances just couldn’t keep the athletics going. They were always D1 or it’s equivalent. They will stay in the city and keep trying to provide an opportunity to the underserved community. I wish them well.
 

RUInsanityToo

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No, not Rutgers, at least not football or men’s basketball. We have sports bringing millions upon millions to the school. Those sports teams should continue. I’d like RU to eliminate all sports that are not bringing in money. Would much prefer to see those scholarships go towards students earning it in the classroom.

As for which schools, any that are not turning a profit, or at least the sports at those schools not turning a profit.
Good for them. Sports ain’t got **** to do with school, so if the sports are just sucking money away from academics instead of adding to it, it would be irresponsible not to get rid of them. I hope we see a ton more of this.

Define Academics. Should all High Schools eliminate all competitive sports as well? Why stop at sports.....aren't you essentially saying that anything that is not within your definition of "Academics" and that does not generate a profit should be cut? For instance, should the Robotics Team that compete against other schools be cut because they do not generate a profit? How about Music? Dance? The Arts?
 

scarletnewyorker2006

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Define Academics. Should all High Schools eliminate all competitive sports as well? Why stop at sports.....aren't you essentially saying that anything that is not within your definition of "Academics" and that does not generate a profit should be cut? For instance, should the Robotics Team that compete against other schools be cut because they do not generate a profit? How about Music? Dance? The Arts?
Define academics: education on topics that stimulate the mind, most importantly how to think (not what to think—which is what 99.99% of schools do at present).

I wouldn’t stop at sports but some of what you listed are academics so I would want them to stay. And yes, same with high school. You can play sports outside your school. I’ll never understand why people insist it must be associated with a school. Try not to focus exclusively on how messy the unwind would be. It shouldn’t be your chief concern anyway.
 

zebnatto

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In the mid- or late-60s both St Francis NY and LIU , along with St. Peter’s all had pretty good basketball teams and a nice local rivalry, often with a spot in the NIT the goal. St. Francis PA was also good.