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Trump/Republicans aren't going to get the support they had in 24, especially with the youth. Being Isreal first and not willing to use power while he has the house/senate is turning away so many people. Turnout is going to be bad for Republicans which is what they honestly deserve. They can't even pass the save act which would ensure they win in the future. Dems are going to take the house and white house and then use the power to impeach trump, go after all their enemies and bring in millions of illegals again.
Too early to say. In 2020, at this point when COVID really hit, Trump was well on his way to winning handily over anyone the dems put up, there was no idea that the left was going to turn out the vote, Then COVID and medical emergencies and healthcare scares hit, George Floyd and racial and civil unrest hit, the Hunter Biden laptop lies started in October and all of a sudden Joe Biden had a "record number of votes".
 
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The problem is, they can literally run anyone, and have a decent chance of winning. How many millions voted for KH? She is a walking catastrophe of zero substance who has no business leading anything or anyone. Yet, tens of millions voted for her based on emotion. I doubt very much they can put up a worse candidate than her, and she didn’t really lose by that much of the popular vote. Thank God she did not win. There are more than a couple really solid R candidates that would do well, but, I have very little confidence in the people to vote based on a person's ability and competency rather than that voter's feels. There really needs to be some additional standards for people to be able to vote. It's why there is an age limit to it, you don't wont stupid and immature people voting, but that's got to be no less than a 1/3 of "adults" in this country at the moment, and no less than about 40% of the elected reps. They too should have to pass some testing to be able to run for a political position. If nothing changes, we are completely screwed.
Vote for her or against Trump?? I think there is a difference. I do believe that a form of TDS is real. I believe the 2028 election will be determined by how radical the Dem platform is. If they do what Biden did and pretend to be a centrist, it could work. But the Dems are moving further to the left with people like AOC, Crockett and Booker leading the party, and the independents and centrist voters won't have the Big Orange Bad Man to use.
 

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Too early to say. In 2020, at this point when COVID really hit, Trump was well on his way to winning handily over anyone the dems put up, there was no idea that the left was going to turn out the vote, Then COVID and medical emergencies and healthcare scares hit, George Floyd and racial and civil unrest hit, the Hunter Biden laptop lies started in October and all of a sudden Joe Biden had a "record number of votes".
It is interesting to think who would be President right now had Covid not happened. Trump would have been President for 8 years. Then who? There was not really anyone on either side that would have been ready.
 
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Vote for her or against Trump?? I think there is a difference. I do believe that a form of TDS is real. I believe the 2028 election will be determined by how radical the Dem platform is. If they do what Biden did and pretend to be a centrist, it could work. But the Dems are moving further to the left with people like AOC, Crockett and Booker leading the party, and the independents and centrist voters won't have the Big Orange Bad Man to use.
Stephen A Smith would be the only conservative Democrat that could run and win. The rest are all Socialist nutjobs.
 

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Your counter argument is that Trump didn’t really even win one of his elections? Interesting strategy.

Nope. He won. Interesting you couldn't just say...."yeah i admit i forgot about that and i was wrong when i said that..."

i've dun it, and it actually feels liberating to just say..."i was wrong, my bad..."
 
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Nope. He won. Interesting you couldn't just say...."yeah i admit i forgot about that and i was wrong when i said that..."

i've dun it, and it actually feels liberating to just say..."i was wrong, my bad..."
I mean, getting people to admit they were wrong is hard but getting them to do it here on a message board is almost impossible. There are people that post here that are wrong all the time and just can't admit it.

I, on the other hand, am happy to admit when I am wrong and sadly, I am wrong pretty much all the time.
 
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Stephen A Smith would be the only conservative Democrat that could run and win. The rest are all Socialist nutjobs.
Yes, but lots of soft boomers, millennials like bleed89 who support illegal immigration, and polls showing younger voters going pro socialism. They may be nutjobs, but when they have no self-awareness, emotional problems, or are just plain stupid, no amount of rational conversation is going to help them. There are a lot of “them” out there.
 

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I mean, getting people to admit they were wrong is hard but getting them to do it here on a message board is almost impossible. There are people that post here that are wrong all the time and just can't admit it.

I, on the other hand, am happy to admit when I am wrong and sadly, I am wrong pretty much all the time.

Own it, and it goes away. Even at work...just own it, be the one to tell yer manager about if if they need to know, and fix it. Buys a LOT of credit with people.
 
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Nope. He won. Interesting you couldn't just say...."yeah i admit i forgot about that and i was wrong when i said that..."

i've dun it, and it actually feels liberating to just say..."i was wrong, my bad..."
No. My point was that Trump can’t beat a man in a presidential race. I provided that he lost to Biden but beat Hillary and Kamala. He won the presidency so I’m not incorrect. The fact that Hillary actually had more votes than him but lost strengthens my argument that he is a weak candidate that can’t beat a man.
 

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No. My point was that Trump can’t beat a man in a presidential race. I provided that he lost to Biden but beat Hillary and Kamala. He won the presidency so I’m not incorrect. The fact that Hillary actually had more votes than him but lost strengthens my argument that he is a weak candidate that can’t beat a man.

...no you said America won't vote for a woman.

Say it with me... "I forgot about 2016 and I was wrong, my bad...."
 

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Did she win? God, you’re obtuse. How many woman presidents had this country had in 250 years? How many?

Hahaha... watching people squirm like yer doing is kinda funny. This would have already died if you just admitted you totally forgpt about 2016 and feel like an idiot.

You see, when you admit you are wrong about something, you get bonus points for calling yourself names. Takes all the fun out of making fun of somebody and the whole thing dies, early.
 
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Did she win? God, you’re obtuse. How many woman presidents had this country had in 250 years? How many?
It was stupid of the democrats to pick a woman candidate. Trump won because there is a large contingent of the population that will never consider voting for a woman. Trump beat Hillary and Kamala. Trump can’t beat a man in a presidential race. He lost to Biden. BIDEN! Put any man with a pulse up there, Newsome for one, and Trump will lose by 10+ points.
Here is what you actually wrote and what was questioned. So a large contingent of the population did indeed consider voting for a woman. In fact more people voted for the woman than the man. Just not the electoral college.

Put the shovel down.
 

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I actually think Trump will end up NOT endorsing JD and will endorse Marco.
Trump HAS to endorse JD.

Because he's going to resign from office before the end of his term, handing it to JD, in order to get a "Hunter Biden" blanket presidential pardon for anything he's ever done in the past and anything he might do in the future.

You can't buy that kind of protection.
 
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Trump HAS to endorse JD.

Because he's going to resign from office near the end of his term, handing it to JD, in order to get a "Hunter Biden" blanket presidential pardon for anything he's ever done in the past and anything he might do in the future.

..i consider that as a possibility as well, but we'll see. Don't think those cover state issues and we know there will be several looney left AG's in looney left states that will continue to gaunt him until he dies so i don't think that solves all his potential issues.

I think it comes down to how the Republican candidate is polling. If it looks like a sure fire GOP winner, he doesn't need to do anything. If not, then it will be interesting.
 

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Trump HAS to endorse JD.

Because he's going to resign from office before the end of his term, handing it to JD, in order to get a "Hunter Biden" blanket presidential pardon for anything he's ever done in the past and anything he might do in the future.

You can't buy that kind of protection.
Oh, this sounds kind of like a conspiracy theory. I am not super into those. Doesn't mean you are wrong I just like to look at things in the simplest way possible (probably because my tiny brain can't handle much)
 

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A real time fact checker would be amazing for speeches like this.
You clearly didn’t watch it because he doesn’t stand up there and spew out a bunch of statistics only for the goofs on the left to try to play gotcha. He was winning the hearts and minds of the American people on common sense issues that the majority agree on. Dims got dog walked like I have never seen. It was glorious.
 
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Here is what you actually wrote and what was questioned. So a large contingent of the population did indeed consider voting for a woman. In fact more people voted for the woman than the man. Just not the electoral college.

Put the shovel down.
So a woman won? Hillary was elected president? Then it sounds like Trump is the one engaged in election fraud. Because he presided 2017-2020.
 

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I just think it is concerning that Trump declares this as a golden age for the economy. A year ago he said the economy was horrific because he inherited it from Biden. What has changed dramatically since then? Prices haven’t come down except for eggs. The stock market has gone up so the rich are certainly richer. Inflation is down from its peak in 2022 following America re-opening from the Covid crises but it was dropping precipitously in 2023 and 2024 before he took office. I thought Trump said he was going to lower grocery prices dramatically and he promised to cut Americans utility bills in half his first year. The national debt continues to skyrocket as he spend all the DOGE cut money on ICE and the National Guard. I thought cutting the department of education, fema, and humanitarian aid was to help us get to a balanced budget? Not more huge deficits. Did you guys forget that Trump promised to eliminate the national debt in his first term? Not balance the budget, literally eliminate the national debt. How is that working out?
I just realized that you were weren’t aware that you can invest in the stock market. Put in 10% of your income during your working life and you will retire super ******* rich. Always counting someone else’s money.
 

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Oh, this sounds kind of like a conspiracy theory. I am not super into those. Doesn't mean you are wrong I just like to look at things in the simplest way possible (probably because my tiny brain can't handle much)

..would you have ever though we'd have what happened when joe burden left office? Pardoned over 8 thousand people, inc everyone who illegally went after Trump. His scenario isn't crazy. In fact the Dem who gets installed as their candidate will be made to run on how they're going to go after Trump... you watch. They will literally tell you they're going to do it.
 
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You clearly didn’t watch it because he doesn’t stand up there and spew out a bunch of statistics only for the goofs on the left to try to play gotcha. He was winning the hearts and minds of the American people on common sense issues that the majority agree on. Dims got dog walked like I have never seen. It was glorious.
Not one second of it. No desire
 
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The problem is, they can literally run anyone, and have a decent chance of winning. How many millions voted for KH? She is a walking catastrophe of zero substance who has no business leading anything or anyone. Yet, tens of millions voted for her based on emotion. I doubt very much they can put up a worse candidate than her, and she didn’t really lose by that much of the popular vote. Thank God she did not win. There are more than a couple really solid R candidates that would do well, but, I have very little confidence in the people to vote based on a person's ability and competency rather than that voter's feels. There really needs to be some additional standards for people to be able to vote. It's why there is an age limit to it, you don't wont stupid and immature people voting, but that's got to be no less than a 1/3 of "adults" in this country at the moment, and no less than about 40% of the elected reps. They too should have to pass some testing to be able to run for a political position. If nothing changes, we are completely screwed.
On the flip side if Trump isn't on the ballot the resistance vote fades a lot. Many people were motivated to vote for KH soley because they brainwashed into believing the alternative was so much worse.
 

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I just realized that you were weren’t aware that you can invest in the stock market. Put in 10% of your income during your working life and you will retire super ******* rich. Always counting someone else’s money.
I’m glad you can afford to invest 10% of your income to the stock market. I have said the wealthy are doing well under Trump. I don’t deny that. But they were doing fine before. The poor and middle class mostly can’t afford to contribute 10% of their income. Trump helps those who don’t need help and marginalizes the rest.
 

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I’m glad you can afford to invest 10% of your income to the stock market. I have said the wealthy are doing well under Trump. I don’t deny that. But they were doing fine before. The poor and middle class mostly can’t afford to contribute 10% of their income. Trump helps those who don’t need help and marginalizes the rest.
It’s because they’re lazy. They should be working a part-time job on the weekends or evenings, going to night school, reading books, learning, attending seminars and webinars.

People have things in this world to the extent that they want them. Your want is lacking. I’m only giving a break to the severely disabled.
 

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It is interesting to think who would be President right now had Covid not happened. Trump would have been President for 8 years. Then who? There was not really anyone on either side that would have been ready.
^^^^
This is truth.

Trump's mishandling of Covid cemented his loss in 2020.
Then, Trump's mishandling of Covid and the resulting inflation during the Biden years resulted in him winning in 2024.

Weird!
 
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steinek11

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It's "where" those votes are.

Voters south of the Mason Dixon line are the ones that elected Trump.
Those are the inbred that won't vote for a female.
Anyone who votes for a woman for president is a moron. That is the worst idea ever. Women probably shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
 
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