OT. Steer clear of Dallas.

coach66

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All B.S. aside this has the potential to roil the markets and slow the economy

tremendously. Nothing to play around with, shouldn't all travel to Africa be shut down for a while?

Is this another sign that we are headed to the national championship game which will get cancelled by an Ebola outbreak* Remember 1941
 

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I don't understand why there are no travel restrictions. It's just asking for an outbreak here.
 

coach66

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It's my understanding that it requires bodily fluid exchange to spread and is

not airborne but we all remember something called HIV.
 

PBRME

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I don't think think the 6500+ in Africa have all been sharing the same partners. If so that's a lot of Eskimo brothers in a short period of time.
 

coach66

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Yes indeed and it doesn't appear this lies silent for years and people spread it

without knowing it so effective quarantines work because I think once you are infected you are hammered pretty quickly. HIV host was supposedly monkeys if I recall correctly they are saying this originates in fruit bats.
 

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Ebola is actually pretty hard to spread. The reason it's spreading so fast in Africa is that the locals reject medical advice and precautions as witchcraft and continue to do things like eat roadkill and rub the bodies of their deceased loved ones.
 

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It will not spread over here the way it does over there. I have an uncle who is a missionary in Uganda. He has been doing it for 15 years. One of the main things they teach them is hygiene. They had no clue what it is. Not saying it's impossible to spread, but very unlikely.
 

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Ebola is actually pretty hard to spread. The reason it's spreading so fast in Africa is that the locals reject medical advice and precautions as witchcraft and continue to do things like eat roadkill and rub the bodies of their deceased loved ones.

Truth. It is especially their treatment of the dead that causes the rapid spread outside of the obvious lack of 1st world sanitation. The recently deceased are literally shedding the virus from everywhere on their bodies and many African pre-burial customs involve a lot of hugging and caressing of the deceased loved one. That and the fact that they just really don't trust outsiders' advice about it whether they are doctors or whatever.

Long story short, An Ebola outbreak like you see in Africa is not going to happen stateside. It's not an airborne disease. You would have to actually come in contact with an infected person's bodily fluids, and 1st world health standards are perfectly capable of controlling that.
 
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I think I saw on local Houston news that the guy in Dallas didn't get sick for 55 days.
 

MSUDawg25

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That one guy? I think they basically keep them alive via IV fluids and blood and wish for the best.
 

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I live in Dallas, I guess I better move***
All kidding aside, I'm sure the proper precautions are being taken.
 

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So, if the US gets enough cases, we will own the problem?

And fix it.

That is what seems to be the case.

Just wondering why people from That area are able to come here.

England has banned travel from those areas.
 

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An experimental drug that's in very short supply.

Read a news article that doctors at Emory don't really know if the experimental drug had anything to do with curing the two people there or not. It may have, but may not have.
 

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Lots of good advice in this thread.

Reminds me of the early 80's.

Good thing they were correct about only the "***** gays" being the only ones to be able to catch AIDS.
 

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The thing is, we have *no idea* what the virus might do in a different environment. We can make speculations, but viruses are evolving all the time just like the rest of us are. Nobody wants to make a big deal out of things like this until it's too late. There's been several american doctors who have contracted it over there (including the one in Houston sounds like); I'm sure most of them follow proper hygiene and don't eat bush meat but they still got it.
 

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It's very likely he passed this at minimum to family members he was visiting. Started showing symptoms on the 24th. Went to hospital on 26th and was sent home with antibiotics. Finally isolated on the 28th.
 
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The only thing I worry about is that Ebola is.a sloppy replicator. The virus as it reproduces is not exactly the same as the original. It could eventually mutate enough from body fluid transfer to airborne. Slim chance it does but it's possible but as long as it stays the way it is then there wont be an outbreak here.
 

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People love to have something new to be scared about, but Ebola shouldn't be it. You are thousands of times more likely to die from the flu. The precautions are still basically the same. Wash your hands, use hand sanitizer. The big bad Ebola is readily killed with Purell.
 
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I'm not scared at all by it. The media are blowing this up (shocking, right?) and out of proportion.
 

coach66

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indeed, great movie and ironically there is a huge black market for survivors

blood in Africa to be bought and injected with the belief it provides immunity. There is some crazy stuff going on over on the dark continent right now.
 

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Virulence vs infectivity....

Ebola is actually pretty hard to spread. The reason it's spreading so fast in Africa is that the locals reject medical advice and precautions as witchcraft and continue to do things like eat roadkill and rub the bodies of their deceased loved ones.

The public and the media (whipping up a good story) are mistakenly correlating the striking pathogenicity and mortality rate of ebola with infectivity. In layman's terms, you are not likely to get it, even in africa, but if you do you aren't likely to survive it. The same is true with Rabies in this country!

The truth of the matter is there are infectious diseases in africa that kill many times more people and are much more likely to be transmitted but nobody is talking about them or suggesting that travel be limited because of the thousands upon thousands that contract the disease only a small percentage die from it. Keep in mind that Ebola is not the only viral hemorrhagic fever out there. There is Marburg, another filovirus similar to ebola that was actually named for an outbreak in the developed world (marburg germany). Lassa Fever that kills thousands of africans annually. Then there is also dengue fever, rift valley fever, crimean-congo hemorrhagic fever, etc.

Bottom line is we do need to take this seriously and our infection control agencies are doing just that but it is being blown WAY out of proportion with one US case being acquired in africa and transported to the US. The likelihood of an outbreak here is very, very slim and everybody just needs to calm down.
 

coach66

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Some people do survive, it appears from the recent numbers coming out of Africa

that it is fatal about 60% of the time if I'm reading it right.