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Mike Tyson says hello.
OJ Simpson sneaks up behind you and slits your throat.

DUI is bad. But I don't see this as the scene break in a Behind The Music. Unfortunately, it's too common. If I bet you Tom Brady has had some beers or more likely popped some Vicodin before getting behind the wheel in the past three years, would you feel comfortable taking that bet? It's sad that Tiger isn't z tiger anymore, and that this happened. But they're not necessarily the same.
 
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[/QUOTE]And Tyson's fall dwarfs Tigers...I mean, Tyson went to jail for rape. For those comparing the two are idiots and probably hate Tiger for other reasons.[/QUOTE]

Tigers fall has been a gradual decline. What, the guy was pulling tail on the side, taking some pills, and drivin drunk. Well, that probably describes 50% of male athletes out there. You said it yourself, Tyson went to prison for RAPE. That's a pretty big fall. If you can't see how dominant Tyson was, and how quickly and how far he crumbled? Tyson was the dominant male athlete of the world before Tiger.
 
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OJ Simpson sneaks up behind you and slits your throat.

DUI is bad. But I don't see this as the scene break in a Behind The Music. Unfortunately, it's too common. If I bet you Tom Brady has had some beers or more likely popped some Vicodin before getting behind the wheel in the past three years, would you feel comfortable taking that bet? It's sad that Tiger isn't z tiger anymore, and that this happened. But they're not necessarily the same.

OJ! Knew I was forgetting someone.

Maybe a little different in that sports were well in his past by the time he gained infamy, but still tops the list of "Famous Sports celebrity who eventually falls from grace."
 

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Not necessarily a Tyson fan but there was a time when he was bigger than the US president; the most recognizable person in the world. That's the way the heavyweight champ was viewed, right or wrong. That day has obviously passed as I'm sure most don't even know who the current champ is.

Tiger made golf relevant but it was still golf.
 

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Where is all this proof of roids and PED use by Tiger??

Dude is imploding!! Don't know if he will ever get his **** together again. But what's happened shouldn't diminish his accomplishments. He still had to play to win all those tournaments. At worst he is the 2nd greatest golfer to walk on earth.

Some of your opinions are comical and ignoring the facts. But when have facts ever gotten in the way of bad opinions on this board??
 

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A story that sticks with me about Tiger is about him working and doing some drills with members of the military.I guess he thought it would make him tougher.Anyway he invited them out to eat and the waitress asked who wanted the check and Tiger said nothing until one of the other guys finally said they will each pay their own.
 
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Fans? No. Just folks who are willing to acknowledge his greatness during his pre-prison days. Calling it like everyone in the world sees it (sans you).

Tyson was one of the most overrated athletes of all time. Who's his best win?

And no, most of the world doesn't see Tyson as one of the top all time greats. He was never great relative to other boxers in other decades.

I said tyson made boxing exciting again. I never disputed that.
 

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I hope he never does it. Jack is/was a class act.

Won't happen. He's done and glad. He's a fraud.

That's never going to happen. He's not even going to catch Snead for most wins. I'm guessing he'll never win again. Maybe Senior tour someday.
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He destroyed everyone except Evander Holyfield. He lost to Buster Douglas because the man was about to have his life flipped (his own fault/doing). Prior to prison, and Buster Douglas, the guy destroyed everyone put in front of him. He had no fear of boxers. None. Zippo.

Post-prison, he wasn't the same.

To dismiss him as not having a 'big name' is...well, I don't have a word for what it is. You get the point.

Who said he didn't have a big name?

I said in most boxing decades prior his name wouldn't have been what it was when he boxed. This isn't earth shattering news. Many boxing fans believe Tyson was a paper tiger.

His name was huge during his run, and he still wasn't the best in an average decade.

You think he's the bomb, great. Enjoy that.
 
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That's debatable. Tyson was the biggest star in sports around the time you were born. And Tyson's fall from grace (unceremoniously knocked out by Buster Douglas, prison for rape, biting Holyfield's ear) was a much larger drop than Tiger's has been.

Probably true given how big his name was.

my opinion on the matter centered around how great both were. I think Tigers fall is a lot bigger because of how incredible he was. Tyson was always gonna end up in a bad light, and imo he just wasn't that great. At least not as great as his name recognition was.
 

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Got some Tyson fans in here....
I was a huge Tyson fan, loved what he did for the sport. He was a killer in his prime, but you can only sustain that for so long before someone finds a weak point in your game. Douglas found it and Holyfield followed.
Look at Rhonda Rousey, she was unstoppable, thought to be unbeatable, til they found out she couldn't take a stiff shot to the chops, now she knows she's done because everyone's onto her.
Mike couldn't handle the thought of it, so he started biting ears off.
He's a pretty funny actor though, I think he might do well there.
Still a fan of Tyson, Rousey and Tiger though. Wish all 3 the best.
 
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I was a huge Tyson fan, loved what he did for the sport. He was a killer in his prime, but you can only sustain that for so long before someone finds a weak point in your game. Douglas found it and Holyfield followed.
Look at Rhonda Rousey, she was unstoppable, thought to be unbeatable, til they found out she couldn't take a stiff shot to the chops, now she knows she's done because everyone's onto her.
Mike couldn't handle the thought of it, so he started biting ears off.
He's a pretty funny actor though, I think he might do well there.
Still a fan of Tyson, Rousey and Tiger though. Wish all 3 the best.

I just think he benefited from a down sport and then was shown to be not as great as previously thought. I think In former decades his name would have been much weaker.

If you look at his top 5 wins, it's an absolute joke. To put his name at the top with other boxing greats is a joke imo.
 

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Mike Tyson says hello.

Tyson is another one but he wasn't viewed in society the way Tiger was. Tyson was dangerous in and out of the ring even spending a few years in prison for rape. So most assumed he would ultimately implode, which he did.

Tiger on the other hand had been groomed for greatness in a "gentlemens" game. He seemed to have it all, elite talent, intelligence, a beautiful wife and kids, endorsements from the best of the best; he had every thing you want in this world. Now his legacy will be how he lost all of it.
 

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Everything this terd won should have an asterisk by it because of all the PED's he took. Dude is one of the biggest POS in the history of man.

Don't know if he's a 'terd' but everything i've heard says the part about the ped's is probably true.
 

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Probably true given how big his name was.

my opinion on the matter centered around how great both were. I think Tigers fall is a lot bigger because of how incredible he was. Tyson was always gonna end up in a bad light, and imo he just wasn't that great. At least not as great as his name recognition was.

Tiger was certainly a greater golfer than Tyson was a boxer.

Tyson was arguably just as big of a star, albeit for a shorter time period.

Tiger's personal problems, possible substance issues, etc. pale in comparison to Tyson's antics.

Tyson bit Holyfield's ear. Tiger dropped a ball in the wrong place.

Tiger ran his car into a tree at his house. Tyson raped a beauty queen.

Tiger's struggles have been magnified because his injuries have kept him away from the game. Although if any of the PED stuff is ever confirmed, Tiger will have a Barry Bonds level black eye.

Which is a shame. Because Tiger was already a phenom when he was a skinny teenager who couldn't bench a buck 50.
 

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Where is all this proof of roids and PED use by Tiger??

Dude is imploding!! Don't know if he will ever get his **** together again. But what's happened shouldn't diminish his accomplishments. He still had to play to win all those tournaments. At worst he is the 2nd greatest golfer to walk on earth.

Some of your opinions are comical and ignoring the facts. But when have facts ever gotten in the way of bad opinions on this board??
I'm glad you asked that question because I thought I missed something.
I'm seeing a bunch of people saying Tiger was on PED's, but I've never heard that before. Thought I totally missed a huge story.
Can those that are saying Tiger was on PED's please link something other than heresay articles?
 

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Tiger seems like a jerk but Tyson was a disgusting rapist and wife beater.I can't believe people would still say they are fans of Tyson.
 
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Tiger was certainly a greater golfer than Tyson was a boxer.

Tyson was arguably just as big of a star, albeit for a shorter time period.

Tiger's personal problems, possible substance issues, etc. pale in comparison to Tyson's antics.

Tyson bit Holyfield's ear. Tiger dropped a ball in the wrong place.

Tiger ran his car into a tree at his house. Tyson raped a beauty queen.

Tiger's struggles have been magnified because his injuries have kept him away from the game. Although if any of the PED stuff is ever confirmed, Tiger will have a Barry Bonds level black eye.

Which is a shame. Because Tiger was already a phenom when he was a skinny teenager who couldn't bench a buck 50.

Well put.

And for the record I was a huge Tyson fan as a child. It's not possibe to be born in '85 and not be.

Having gone back and taken an objective look at tysons actual accomplishments, I had many doubts about his greatness, as many now do.

But I, what's the word, digress?
 
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Tyson is another one but he wasn't viewed in society the way Tiger was. Tyson was dangerous in and out of the ring even spending a few years in prison for rape. So most assumed he would ultimately implode, which he did.

Tiger on the other hand had been groomed for greatness in a "gentlemens" game. He seemed to have it all, elite talent, intelligence, a beautiful wife and kids, endorsements from the best of the best; he had every thing you want in this world. Now his legacy will be how he lost all of it.

Fair points. Kind of like Kobe, Tiger still has a chance at redemption if he can ever get his back squared away. May be a while before this story plays out.
 

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I'm glad you asked that question because I thought I missed something.
I'm seeing a bunch of people saying Tiger was on PED's, but I've never heard that before. Thought I totally missed a huge story.
Can those that are saying Tiger was on PED's please link something other than heresay articles?

You won't find many golfing circles that don't have a few fans of tiger.

You also won't find many golfing circles that think he wasn't on some form of PED's, in my experience anyway.
 

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Tiger was certainly a greater golfer than Tyson was a boxer.

Tyson was arguably just as big of a star, albeit for a shorter time period.

Tiger's personal problems, possible substance issues, etc. pale in comparison to Tyson's antics.

Tyson bit Holyfield's ear. Tiger dropped a ball in the wrong place.

Tiger ran his car into a tree at his house. Tyson raped a beauty queen.

Tiger's struggles have been magnified because his injuries have kept him away from the game. Although if any of the PED stuff is ever confirmed, Tiger will have a Barry Bonds level black eye.

Which is a shame. Because Tiger was already a phenom when he was a skinny teenager who couldn't bench a buck 50.
All this means is Tyson's troubles had a bigger wow factor when compared to Tiger's mishaps, but he was never as high on the ladder in the big picture as Tiger.
Both hit the ground hard, but Tiger fell from a much higher place.
This is JMO of course.
 
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I'm glad you asked that question because I thought I missed something.
I'm seeing a bunch of people saying Tiger was on PED's, but I've never heard that before. Thought I totally missed a huge story.
Can those that are saying Tiger was on PED's please link something other than heresay articles?

Johnny miller once said on tv that tiger could bench 450 pounds.
 

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All this means is Tyson's troubles had a bigger wow factor when compared to Tiger's mishaps, but he was never as high on the ladder in the big picture as Tiger.
Both hit the ground hard, but Tiger fell from a much higher place.
This is JMO of course.

Kids who never gave golf one second of thought were buying tiger Nike gear and clubs when I was growing up.

No one ever considered golf an athletic sport until Tiger. He changed the entire game for EVER.

Nike golf actually became relevant because of tiger. Imagine Nike golf without tiger? It never would have made a sound.



Tyson eh, not that kind of impact but I see where aike was going.
 

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Don't think Tyson was ever at the heights Tiger was. Tiger was a legend, Tyson was a paper tiger.

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Eh I don't agree. He did make boxing relevant again, but he was overrated as hell. Never beat anyone really noteworthy. He wouldn't have been a big name in most boxing decades.

Not gonna compare the two, but In his prime, I'd take Tyson over any heavy weight. Any. He was in a league of his own, and became a victim of his own undoing. (You can say the same about Tiger.)
 

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Not gonna compare the two, but In his prime, I'd take Tyson over any heavy weight. Any. He was in a league of his own, and became a victim of his own undoing. (You can say the same about Tiger.)

Dude, no way you'd take Tyson over The usual list of greats. Is that what you meant?
 

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I'm glad you asked that question because I thought I missed something.
I'm seeing a bunch of people saying Tiger was on PED's, but I've never heard that before. Thought I totally missed a huge story.
Can those that are saying Tiger was on PED's please link something other than heresay articles?

The rumors have been around for years. He was definitely linked to a well-known PED doc.

It can be blurry at times between what constitutes legitimate, legal, cutting edge treatment, and what crosses the line.

Another golfer (name escapes me) said in a radio interview a few years ago that Tiger was suspended for PEDs. PGA Tour denied it. Golfer retracted.

Lot of smoke, but who knows? Guy was definitely an amazing golfer long before PEDs were even hinted at. He also won the U. S. Open with a broken leg. Could that have been aided by some substance?

If the PED stuff is true, the irony would be that he could have actually cut his career short and prevented himself from breaking all the records by powering through pain and injury with performance enhancers.
 

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I'll tell everyone who fell from greatness more than tiger or Tyson....

Zack Morris.

Reached huge fame in the late 80's early 90's. Was on every teen girls wall, went to college years and fell off completely. In walked Jonathan Taylor Thomas and Zack Ended up a side show on law and order.

That's a fall if there ever was one.
 
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Kids who never gave golf one second of thought were buying tiger Nike gear and clubs when I was growing up.

No one ever considered golf an athletic sport until Tiger. He changed the entire game for EVER.

Nike golf actually became relevant because of tiger. Imagine Nike golf without tiger? It never would have made a sound.



Tyson eh, not that kind of impact but I see where aike was going.

Will Smith sang about him and every kid I knew had Mike Tyson's Punchout.

But he didn't cause people to flock to boxing. Might have scared them away, if anything.
 
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In his prime, I'd take Tyson over any heavy weight. You can disagree. We all have our own opinion, it's okay.

Hey man, if you wanna see mike get knocked the F out by Ali in round 1, have at it.

In other news, dudes junk is in dudes grill in your avatar.

:)
 
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Will Smith sang about him and every kid I knew had Mike Tyson's Punchout.

But he didn't cause people to flock to boxing. Might have scared them away, if anything.

Punch out will go down as the greatest game for sure. Top 5 no doubt.
 
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