OT: Tips on buying foreclosures

aTotal360

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Looking for some tips. Here are a couple that I've been told.

1) put in the contract that the bank must provide a clear title. They need to be responsible for paying off any encumbrances.
2) home inspection. home inspection. home inspection.
3) get an agent. banks budget in their 3-4% anyway.
4) don't count on the bank giving an allowance if you find something wrong with the property.

I'm looking at buying a foreclosure to live in short term. So it's really a retail/investment buy if the money is right.

Any more tips?
 

Faustdog

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Your type of financing will determine which ones you can buy. Fannie Mae and HUD rarely will make repairs or allow you to do so. This can be an issue especially with FHA loans.

And of course cash rules.

You can pm me if you have any questions about specific properties.
 

WrapItDog

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What is short term? I always lived in the house long enough to avoid paying capital gains tax before selling it or making it a rental. I think the requirement is living in the home 2 years out of the last 5 years.
 

BoomBoom.sixpack

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2) you can home inspect, but if it's been winterized, or the power or water are turned off, then there's no way to completely inspect the electrical and/or plumbing. the bank will almost never turn those back on for you to inspect. also, you should pay extra for an extremely thorough termite inspection. it's worth it, every little ticky-tacky thing on the inspection you can take back to the bank and demand a price reduction for. banks are beauracracies, the guy holding this property may want to lower the price to sell, but can't unless he can justify it. if it's been on the market a year or two, they won't move much on the price in initial negotiations, literally only a percent or two, because somebody in that buracracy already made a determination of its worth, but will move more after an accepted offer if you can justify it.

find out if it flooded. avoid those, even if repaired. check for Chinese drywall. if it has that, you're taking a loss. if it was a meth lab, avoid it. typical home inspections don't check for any of those things.

budget for immediate small repairs, ~$2000. and be capable of paying for or acquiring debt for larger repairs. it you can't absorb a large repair and come out even with buying a non-foreclosure, then the price is too high.

comps are required to be other foreclosures. this can result in a low comp, which limits how much your home loan can be. mine only had a couple nearby foreclosures, so even though they weren't comparable in any other way, they were the comps. i'd try for a contingency based on the loan approval, especially since IMO comps are rigged in MS anyway. make sure it states that all costs rolled into the loan must come in under the approved amount, not just the purchase price. state that that's the only way you can afford it, they will fold.

figure out why it's still on the market. (the one i bought had the absolute worst picture they could have picked to represent it on the web, and while structuraly sound was despeartely in need of cosmetic upgrades, so i could understand why it was still on the market at a rock-bottom price. had to work on the water heater and A/C handler, but not much else, so am set to make a great return on it when we sell.) if it looks great, then there's probably a structural problem. if it's not been on the market long, then the price is probably too high: no one can get a loan approved with the comps. if the price hasn't been lowered a couple times already, it's probably too high.
 

Faustdog

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If it's a Fannie/Freddie/HUD, they will turn utilities on for your inspection. They wont fix anything though 99% of the time.
 

Bigedawg

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"Comps are rigged in MS"?

As an appraiser in MS, I can't help but wonder what in the hell that is supposed to mean? Additionally, the appraisal of a foreclosure should not use foreclosed properties as comps unless that is the market in the subject property's immediate area. If there were comps available that were arm's length sales, these should have been used as comps before considering other REO properties as comps. Sometimes, the market gives you no choice but to use foreclosures as comps when a particular area is in the tank, but this being the case, at least in the Metro Jackson market, is typically the exception not the rule. Most lenders I do work for won't allow you to use foreclosures as comps, unless foreclosures are absolutely the only potential comps available.
 

Maroonbulldog

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I can talk to you about financing concerns if you like. I'm a mortgage lender and live in Starkville. I deal w foreclosures regularly. Send me a pm if u want.