OT: Trevor Bauer

tom1944

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I read that he would not be able to sue MLB for suspending him. That seems very unfair.

I saw his statement on why he will not sue the woman. Hopefully the prosecutor files criminal charges against her.
 

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I read that he would not be able to sue MLB for suspending him. That seems very unfair.

I saw his statement on why he will not sue the woman. Hopefully the prosecutor files criminal charges against her.
sounds like he was set up
Trevor Bauer settles legal dispute with accuser, reveals damning messages | Fox News
>'Next victim. Star pitcher for the Dodgers,'" Bauer said in the video. "A text Lindsey Hill sent to a friend before she ever even met me. ‘What should I steal?’ she asked another, in reference to visiting my house for the first time. The answer? ‘Take his money.’ So how might that work? ‘I’m going to his house Wednesday.’ she said, ‘I already have my hooks in. you know how I roll.’ Then, after the first time we met, "Net worth is 51 mil" she said. ‘b---h, you better secure the bag’, was the response.<
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/trevor-bauer-settles-legal-dispute-accuser-reveals-damning-messages
 

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MLB should be sued in this case. What was done to him was downright disgusting
MLB should be sued in this case. What was done to him was downright disgusting
Many here were ready to railroad Trevor Bauer after the charges from those women were made known . He was called quite a few unsavory terms. Glad he has been vindicated… sad if he can’t sue MLB and the idiot in charge. Remember it was a new day dawning in the country , “ guilty until You prove your innocence”. Me too disappeared as it caused more unnecessary turmoil for a specific group.
 

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I read her text change and there was an ex- major league player who was texting her about getting a chunk of money.

He should be looked into also.
 

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Yiiiiikes
That’s awful. Hope he’s in the majors again. The whole thing felt too coincidental. Right after he signed
 
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Why would he sue her, she's probably broke. I don't understand why he can't sue MLB.
 

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Because it created a discovery process where he could get the information needed to prove his innocence
Wasn't the discovery between him and his false accuser? MLB wasn't involved with the discovery process.
 

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There is supposedly language in MLB contracts that prohibits lawsuits in this situation
You throw a guy out of the MLB, he is at least owed the rest of his contract. The same was said about the Duke players yet they were all paid. Even though college kids have similar language.
 

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You throw a guy out of the MLB, he is at least owed the rest of his contract. The same was said about the Duke players yet they were all paid. Even though college kids have similar language.
I think MLB should pay him in the high 100 millions and this woman and anyone associated with her should be prosecuted. Suspended for 194 games. I would have no issue with MLB writing a $194 million check.

The California Bar should do a deep dive into her attorney and if appropriate seek disbarment.

I hope you are correct, and he gets paid- and it should be public, so MLB has to admit how wrong they were.
 

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I think MLB should pay him in the high 100 millions and this woman and anyone associated with her should be prosecuted. Suspended for 194 games. I would have no issue with MLB writing a $194 million check.

The California Bar should do a deep dive into her attorney and if appropriate seek disbarment.

I hope you are correct, and he gets paid- and it should be public, so MLB has to admit how wrong they were.
Agree the attorney for her should be disbarred and charged!
 

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I read that he would not be able to sue MLB for suspending him. That seems very unfair.

I saw his statement on why he will not sue the woman. Hopefully the prosecutor files criminal charges against her.
Also, this is why names in such cases should be confidential until the court cases are completed. You can never get your name back after such accusations, whether true or not.
 

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They do it because they have been shown it’s ok to make untrue accusations even if it causes harm not only to the accused but even his immediate family. In this case Trevor Bauer is the victim being told he has no recourse to recoup What is most important his good name .
 

biazza38

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The prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse case obviously got disbarred. This lawyer is in trouble. What kind evil is someone to withhold evidence that proves a man’s innocence? Greed will get ya
 
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MLB should be sued in this case. What was done to him was downright disgusting
Happens all the time. Even at Rutgers but we do not hear about the vast majority of cases. the Matress Girl Case was the first high profile media led case of “date rape” that turned out to be false. I don’t agree with not suing these women in these cases of false allegations. Sue the **** out of them and make an example out of them.
Back on point: what this woman did to Trevor Bauer was carefully planned and thought through, I wish he would sue her *** so she can never repay the debt.
https://notthebee.com/article/forme...ort-him-by-claiming-he-sexually-assaulted-her
 

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Happens all the time. Even at Rutgers but we do not hear about the vast majority of cases. the Matress Girl Case was the first high profile media led case of “date rape” that turned out to be false. I don’t agree with not suing these women in these cases of false allegations. Sue the **** out of them and make an example out of them.
Back on point: what this woman did to Trevor Bauer was carefully planned and thought through, I wish he would sue her *** so she can never repay the debt.
https://notthebee.com/article/forme...ort-him-by-claiming-he-sexually-assaulted-her

What if they're judgement proof?
 
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What if they're judgement proof?
And THAT is the problem. Our society is being hollowed out because No one except white men are held responsible anymore.
When you say women are judgement proof you are 90% correct. Amber Heard is the only woman I can remember who made false allegations against a male and lost. Of course Johnny Depp paid huge legal bills for that hollow victory.
Many of the college age males are the ones who are paying the price as they get no due process and their reputations are ruined.
 

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And THAT is the problem. Our society is being hollowed out because No one except white men are held responsible anymore.
When you say women are judgement proof you are 90% correct. Amber Heard is the only woman I can remember who made false allegations against a male and lost. Of course Johnny Depp paid huge legal bills for that hollow victory.
Many of the college age males are the ones who are paying the price as they get no due process and their reputations are ruined.

Actually there are a lot of white men that are judgement proof as well, though that doesn't change the misjustice that happened in this case.
 

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Actually there are a lot of white men that are judgement proof as well, though that doesn't change the misjustice that happened in this case.
And we could use any racial demographic to describe similar and alike. You know that is true if being even slightly honest.3 years of using that narrative now falls by the wayside .
 

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And we could use any racial demographic to describe similar and alike. You know that is true if being even slightly honest.3 years of using that narrative now falls by the wayside .

Oh I know the media has it's checklist for who to railroad, but I stand by my comment.
 

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Oh I know the media has it's checklist for who to railroad, but I stand by my comment.
Sorry … things being true in the past were wrong … Accepting the reverse as being ok now , for a very large group , is not a good thing . If we wish to rectify a wrong it may be better to not label a group. People always look for a benefit to enhance their personal thinking. I have seen good and bad since this began some years ago. Maybe we should use AI to solve the issues.
 

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And THAT is the problem. Our society is being hollowed out because No one except white men are held responsible anymore.
When you say women are judgement proof you are 90% correct. Amber Heard is the only woman I can remember who made false allegations against a male and lost. Of course Johnny Depp paid huge legal bills for that hollow victory.
Many of the college age males are the ones who are paying the price as they get no due process and their reputations are ruined.
Yeah us poor white men have it so much harder than everyone else.

That is complete and utter nonsense.
 
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That’s true in some cases but not all white men are doing as well as the media and Hollywood would like people to believe. Some of that is their own fault ( individuals) . Some of that is no different than any other group of men in society. Taking all things into consideration the stigma comes about from the failure of past leadership to right the wrongs. This attempt to punish another group( now) is exactly what was the reason for where things exist today. The “ me too” which is now a joke movement was created in order to weaponize for what else? An agenda… let ( men and women) them ref or umpire or succeed in sports as long as they can prove competent in what they are asked to do.
 

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Yeah us poor white men have it so much harder than everyone else.

That is complete and utter nonsense.
in today's world injustices like this situation is used to dismiss legitimate complaints .
Trevor was a victim of an injustice that gave too much benefit of what a liar claimed.
That can't be denied.
But to make this horrible mistake a reason to knock going after predators when they are accused is the wrong way to go about it.
We must return to Innocent unless proven guilty , holding judgement until a full investigation of the claim is completed and the evidence brings on a conviction or proves innocence.
The rush to judge goes both ways, some will use this to judge movements to make sure offenders are punished are seen in a bad light accusing them of being the ruination of society instead of trying to make society safer for all.
The shame is, some people in every movement take it to the extreme and hurt the credibility of the movement that responsible members are trying to achieve by trying to be truthful when accusing someone of wrongdoing and not making up stories about who they accuse.
 
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in today's world injustices like this situation is used to dismiss legitimate complaints .
Trevor was a victim of an injustice that gave too much benefit of what a liar claimed.
That can't be denied.
But to make this horrible mistake a reason to knock going after predators when they are accused is the wrong way to go about it.
We must return to Innocent unless proven guilty , holding judgement until a full investigation of the claim is completed and the evidence brings on a conviction or proves innocence.
The rush to judge goes both ways, some will use this to judge movements to make sure offenders are punished are seen in a bad light accusing them of being the ruination of society instead of trying to make society safer for all.
The shame is, some people in every movement take it to the extreme and hurt the credibility of the movement that responsible members are trying to achieve by trying to be truthful when accusing someone of wrongdoing and not making up stories about who they accuse.

I'm all for a return to innocent unless proven guilty. And I think that the judicial system in these cases follows that. I can remember no verdict I find to be a travesty. But I can not say that about the media these days. Thay have a checklist:

* White
* Male
* Southern
* Jock
* Frat (in the case of college students)

Check 3 of those boxes and rumor and innuendo is "fit to print" with minimal scrutiny. Check 4 and it's anything goes. Check all 5 and you have Duke lacrosse. Look at the exculpatory evidence that existed before charging of Reade Seligman and your jaw will drop.

People who don't check those boxes face a different level of scrutiny.
 
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I'm not ready to anoint Bauer as a good guy nor am I ready to condemn him as a bad guy. Clearly, Lindsey Hill had her own demons, chief among them alcoholism. Maybe she dropped the suit because it all became too much for her mentally and emotionally, IDK. Notably, the judge presiding over Hill's request for a restraining order denied it not because of a lack of evidence that the assault occurred, but rather the judge found that there was no evidence that the two would cross paths again. I believe that there are several women who claim that Bauer assaulted them. We'll see what evidence comes out in those cases. What I am curious about is why would Hill's insurer pay her $300K? I saw that the insurer "covered" her defense against Bauer's claim. Could her attorneys possibly have rung up that kind of tab??? It would also be strange that the insurer didn't select the defense counsel for Hill.
 

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Remember the punter nicknamed Punt God Matt Araiza. He got drafted by the Bill played in one preseason game. Got accused of rape by a girl who was open for business that night I'll say. Well the Bills cut him his name got smeared everywhere. Later it comes out he wasn't even there or something. He still hasn't gotten a second chance sadly.
 

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I'm not ready to anoint Bauer as a good guy nor am I ready to condemn him as a bad guy. Clearly, Lindsey Hill had her own demons, chief among them alcoholism. Maybe she dropped the suit because it all became too much for her mentally and emotionally, IDK. Notably, the judge presiding over Hill's request for a restraining order denied it not because of a lack of evidence that the assault occurred, but rather the judge found that there was no evidence that the two would cross paths again. I believe that there are several women who claim that Bauer assaulted them. We'll see what evidence comes out in those cases. What I am curious about is why would Hill's insurer pay her $300K? I saw that the insurer "covered" her defense against Bauer's claim. Could her attorneys possibly have rung up that kind of tab??? It would also be strange that the insurer didn't select the defense counsel for Hill.
The assault never occurred

She made it up as part of a plan to extort him.

There is no doubt about that.
 
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Remember the punter nicknamed Punt God Matt Araiza. He got drafted by the Bill played in one preseason game. Got accused of rape by a girl who was open for business that night I'll say. Well the Bills cut him his name got smeared everywhere. Later it comes out he wasn't even there or something. He still hasn't gotten a second chance sadly.
Yes similar story
 
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I'm not ready to anoint Bauer as a good guy nor am I ready to condemn him as a bad guy. Clearly, Lindsey Hill had her own demons, chief among them alcoholism. Maybe she dropped the suit because it all became too much for her mentally and emotionally, IDK. Notably, the judge presiding over Hill's request for a restraining order denied it not because of a lack of evidence that the assault occurred, but rather the judge found that there was no evidence that the two would cross paths again. I believe that there are several women who claim that Bauer assaulted them. We'll see what evidence comes out in those cases. What I am curious about is why would Hill's insurer pay her $300K? I saw that the insurer "covered" her defense against Bauer's claim. Could her attorneys possibly have rung up that kind of tab??? It would also be strange that the insurer didn't select the defense counsel for Hill.
Sure now she’s not only a former victim but a liar. Man that’s mighty magnanimous of you … you’re cutting him a break. HaHaHa