Some upperclassmen that loss their starting position cause they were beat out by sophomores might leave. Who cares. Their replacements have arrived and it's called the future.
Others following Towles and leave the program
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Betting on Stoops to make changes?
You like losing money?
Stoops hasn't shown much of anything beyond an ability to recruit and be incredibly stubborn.
So you let this kid, that quit, hold a team hostage because he is good? I say get rid of the punks, including him, and win or lose with the kids that don't need their ego stroked after every play. To say less makes us bitches. How can we criticize UL and at the same time say Boom is too good to get rid of despite his attitude?
He narrowly missed on Bill Parcels and he went all in after him and was lucky that he had a relationship with Brooks to get him at last minute. The contract with Parcells was ready to be signed before Jerry Jones intervened!
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What exactly did Boom do ? Please enlighten us of your inside info, he sat out 1 game because of 'Personal' problems. Tell us what this was, and how did he quit. He was back the next week after, and ran hard, even played with a badly hyper extended elbow.
Or Tuesday. Or Wednesday. Or later in the week. Or next week.
I hope that the only UK player that care about, and you know exactly who I am talking about, is not of them. I think we need him- possibly to start games next year. Possibly.
He quit the team. Told the coaches he quit, then changed his mind. And they sat him one game. But he said "I quit."
You don't know that for a fact. It's interesting how passionately you defend UofLoL everytime they are criticized on this board, yet have no hesitation to attack Boom Williams. You defend UofLol at every opportunity, and attack UK players. With friends like you, who needs enemies?
Really? Gonna call me a UL fan? It is known that Boom quit. I wasn't there when he said it, but Jared Lorenzen and Freddie Maggard publicized it. I believe them. To say I've defended UL is untrue. To say I can't stand UK fans that criticize UL for sucking less than us, you are right. I've never defended UL. I do argue with people that criticize them blindly, primarily b/c I don't like ignorance. I have never attacked a UK player, but I have said I don't appreciate the ones that act like punks and don't give the effort they should. Boom Williams is one of those. There is a reason he didn't go to Georgia or Florida.
You have no problem at all with UofLofL bringing in thugs like Willie Willlaims, et al, or at least you never whine about it; you defend UofLofL on numerous threads; you throw Tubman under the bus over some horseshit charge that never went anywhere; and you now accuse Boom of quitting, which is totally unsubstantiated by anyone. If it is, then how about sending us a link?
Listen to the KSR football podcast. Quit saying I defend UL. I've never defended UL. I never threw Tubman under the bus. All I ever said about Tubman is that people wearing blue goggles that said he didn't do it, don't know whether he did it or not. All I ever said. I don't ***** about UL bringing in thugs because I try to focus on our team. I think guys like you that focus on UL and complaining about what they do wrong distracts from UK and trying to get us to do things right. You probably work in a factory and need something to argue with your co-workers about, so you focus on what UL does. I don't, and I don't.
You have a problem with working in a factory, old-timer? That's a job, a real job, and it's the kind of job that most of your fanbase, UofLoL, have never had.
I don't really see how working in the factory is anymore real of a job than say being an accountant or a lawyer or in business management.
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It's not "more" of a real job, but the poster to whom I responded denigrated it and that's why I reacted that way. I have no idea why that clown took a shot at factory jobs, but I wasn't going to let that cheap shot slide.
Don't mean to get in the middle of a Cat Fight (pun intended) but Boom DID quit the team. It was short lived but he did quit. If you're okay with him quitting in the heat of bad season that's your decision. Stoops allowed him to sit for a game and all was forgotten.
If he really did quit, then it was in the middle of a good season- at the time. Though, in a way, that's even worse than quitting in the middle of a bad season.
However, IF that happened, it doesn't mean that he's a punk and it sure doesn't mean that he shouldn't have been welcomed back after coming to his senses.
I agree with one thing in your post, he was trying to do too much, he tied the football improvements to almost half a billion in athletic improvements------a huge sum------but then basketball was going to get about 80% of the money to replace the arena that usually leads the nation in attendance.
Reading through all this I kept thinking - careful what you wish for. We're all familiar with it, how things sometimes don't work out quite like we were thinking. I personally think Barnhart has done a good job, but consider the possibility that running him off could result in an AD who really doesn't care a thing about football. Who would have never supported some of the things we've seen in recent years like all the money poured into improving facilities. If we end up seeing a bunch of transfers then I wish them well, but can't help think they were part of the problem. Quitter's don't make for good football teams.
I wonder what the back-story was on Snodgrass leaving in the middle of the season. Obviously we really didn't miss him after he left. Maybe he had some personal issues, maybe he was simply a quitter.
This team really needs leaders in the mold of a Wesley Woodyard to hold their teammates accountable.
If you think for a minute mitch had any choice but to spend a lot of money on football after he ran it into the ground (behind Vandy even), cost UK thousands of diehard season ticket holders, cost UK millions of dollars in ticket sales, had recruiting AND operating budgets for football less or about the same for SIX times the players required for basketball, and even delayed the scoreboard two years past its scheduled obsolescence which also lost fans, (not to mention the disgrace of a "recruiting center"-----oh, guess I did mention it, no story complete without that one) then I have some swamp land to sell you in Florida. Hey, I will even give you a two for one deal.
The other huge factor, besides the fan strike, was the huge influx of money, primarily due to SEC football, from the media deal and the huge TV contract, thanks to OTHER SEC schools football programs. Bama's bowl games alone have probably given us over $10,000,000 directly over the past ten years, and several other teams quite a bit, but the football generated TV contract is what drove it over the top.
And he still had to obligate the athletic department for about $100,000,000 for academic improvements (not that I am against that) in order to BORROW the money for the football improvements.
And his treatment of donars (plus PR booboos) and use of the KFund cost UK athletics millions in donations from football fans, note the $40,000,000 in donations for the new football facility since some money has actually been invested in football.
Consider the possibility that running him off could result in an AD that actually did care about football-----the real money cow in the SEC.
But if Stoops rights the ship (which I expect him to do) then mitch might still be the luckiest man around. The raw talent level has been UK's primary problem in football, not coaching, ever since Curci saw he couldn't win here without cheating------and both he and Mumme (Bassett) cost us dearly in the long run.
And I don't see many fans criticizing our recruiting, which could/should take a giant leap forward WHEN we actually start to win some games. Even if Stoops doesn't win and gets fired he will leave UK in MUCH better shape to hire a desirable coach due to the talent growth AND creating the blueprint for successful recruiting at UK.
Actually, Stanley would be an addition by subtraction. You see guys like him all of the time - guys with great talent who don't have a clue what it takes to be a champion. He is a real chip off the old block.
And fans of your ilk don't help much either. Those who would rather stick their heads in the sand when the whole thing is coming apart at the seams. The Baghdad Bobs of college football.
There are a lot of people on this site that can't comprehend what you typed here. You wonder how some of these people are able to log on.
We can all be glad that you aren't in charge of a team. What a zoo that would be.
and this is where the ole say'n..."don't put all your eggs in one basket" came from......
that crazy Mitch Barnhart is the motherload of old saws....
So what announcements were there? It has been nearly 3 weeks since you posted this. Yet, nothing. According to most on here we were supposed to have a mass exodus. Recruits were going to decomit, players were going to transfer in by the bunches, yet nothing has happened and it has been a month since the season eneded.
Then you're dumb. If you watched the offense last year, you would be able to tell it was incredibly stagnant without Boom. Pull your head out of your a** and get over your little angry schoolgirl act towards our most talented offensive player, because of one little thing that you THOUGHT he did, but was never supported with any evidence.
Exactly. Haven't seen an offseason yet when someone didn't transfer. Usually involves guys who have fallen down the depth chart or gotten into the dog house.
I take what other fans say with a grain of salt, because I see way too many who change their opinions on a dime, or simply don't understand what they are watching. But I can tell you what I think. Boom Williams didn't get a redshirt. He has played his butt off, behind the worst offensive line in the SEC. Boom had at least 1 concussion last year, then several significant injuries this year. But he always plays the game hard. He has played for 2 offensive coordinators in 2 years, with #3 on the way now. This has been a lot of distraction and head wind for him early in his career. But when healthy, Boom is our best playmaker by a wide margin. If you watched the UL game, you saw the difference in our football team with and without Boom. Kentucky is a much better football team with Boom. I don't expect everything that comes out of the kid's mouth to make sense. After all, he is a teenager. But I sure don't want him to leave. If he goes, our offense would be in big trouble. I don't share Rhavicc's bravado for insults, but he is basically right. Anyone who doesn't see Boom's great importance to our team just doesn't understand what they have been watching.
he is not a punk ,just a self-centered as are most his age,not all but this is a different time.