Over the next few weeks, keep your eyes on the Middle East
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I'm a former B-52 crew chief. I spent time in Diego Garcia in the 90s, and I've flown on several supply missions through there as a C-17 crew chief in the early 2000's.
1. They have munition stockpiles there.
2. We've done countless tours there that never amounted to anything. We didn't do squat the whole time I was there. We used to call it, OPERATION DENY CHRISTMAS because it seemed like we always deployed there over Christmas and we never actually did anything.
Still, you may well be right. Your post just brought back a bit of nostalgia and I thought I'd share. Most people have never heard of Diego Garcia.
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Not saying you are correct, but perhaps for humanitarian reasons, to show benevolence, to attempt to undermine Iran, or as part of some sort of flimsy peace deal? There are potentially a myriad of legitimate reasons.
They support Hamas because they want a militant Islamist running Gaza because that makes it easier for them to invade and ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. Netanyahu and co aren’t interested in peace or securing the hostages
The US employs a joint and integrated air defense strategy. There are many different weapons systems in this layered defense. Patriot falls in the short to medium range air defense. It defends against air breathing threats (fixed wing, rotary, cruise missiles etc) and tactical ballistic missiles. These TBMs are most effectively intercepted by the Patriot system depending on the type of TBM threat.
Patriot is set up to defend a specific asset (air base, cities, etc). Most air bases that we use to launch strikes will most likely be defended by a Patriot battery or a short range air defense system.
Mobilizing a unit could be for a multitude of reasons (training, equipment replacements, live fires etc). Mobilizing doesn’t necessarily mean anything is imminent, but could be a good indication of preemptive defense of a critical asset.
I'd say that is shooting for a fairy tale...
That is a recipe for disaster. Clean energy sounds good until it is used by terrorists. no way you can think this is a real possibility. And even if it was who's paying for it?
Not likely, they only include liberal journalist in war planning discussions.
That’s the Biden admin for ya
If their goal is ethnic cleansing they are doing a terrible job at it. Their Air Force is good enough that they could kill off most of the population of Gaza and not put troops at risk, yet they put their own troops at risk going house to house. If you’ve ever been involved in urban combat you’d understand it’s the most dangerous and resource intensive combat you can experience.
yeah clean energy in those areas ain't happening. They don't give a **** about clean energy...they barely care about clean water.
I cannot see how anyone can feel giving them access to nuclear energy is a good thing.
Well they’ve done tons of arial bombing in Gaza, have you seen pictures of the place?
Actually Iran does have some missiles that can range Diego Garcia, but their accuracy is quite dubious, as you should've been able to tell from how well they (and the Houthis) miss everything in Israel.
But B-2s rarely forward deploy, that they're forward deployed makes it very serious. A lot of their missions are flown round trip from the USA to the ME or wherever.
But B-2s rarely forward deploy, that they're forward deployed makes it very serious. A lot of their missions are flown round trip from the USA to the ME or wherever.
Wouldn’t need one. It’s 2500 miles from the strait of Hormuz to DG, roughly. They aren’t going to strike DG, regardless.
Oh sorry, I guess I should be relaxed about them killing tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians, how foolish of me to care about human life
so in your fairy tale world...
Every country will have it. We don't give the plants to the bad guys but we make the good guys share their plants with them so they can have clean energy that they don't give a **** about. And no one has to pay for it?
This is not real life
We've told Israel we will protect them. Therefore, I think there will be a degree of collaboration. It was our intel gleaned from UKR/Russia that let them know the S300/400s were dogshit and they should be able to attack Iran without fear. Over 100 Israeli planes used in that attack. All returned without a scratch. There will be a degree of collaboration.
I don't want war, but Iran's gotten way too big for their britches so to speak. My wish list if this goes forward.
1. Total obliteration of their Nuclear facilities.
2. Destruction of the QUDs and Special Forces. They help train all their proxies. Take away that.
3. Destruction of any offensive capabilities of the Navy.
4. Further destruction of all Military Critical Infrastructure (I'm looking at you missile bases)
I hope you're right to a degree. I just don't see it. It costs nearly 165k an hour to operate 1 B2 bomber. We aren't taking 6 over there for show. A 7th will leave HNL at some point and join them. Supposedly 5-6 B52s on the ground. More C17s every single day and now as @BionicTiger said 5-6 C5s. Planefinder had a line of C5s leave Dover this morning as well. They've since turned off their Transponders.
It costs 6.5MM on average per day to operate a Carrier Strike Group. Two for certain will be there and I was told a 3rd is all but guaranteed. Yet again, with the climate of government entities like DOGE and more, this isn't for show IMO.
My brother had PAT III batteries around the DOHA National Gas Facility and the main refinery in Saudi Arabia when he was there over a decade ago. His THAAD was in Israel at the time.
Little known fact that I didn't know until then. In times of conflict, Army Air Defense and Naval Air Defense come under the command of our Air Force during said conflicts. When my brother arrived he was dotted line to an Army Brigadier General, but reported directly to an Air Force 3 star while there.
Yes, it is unreasonable, but I’d rather work towards that as an aspirational than some base slop. You don’t get to it but you still make the world a better place.
What’s histrionics here? The Israelis have killed tens of thousands of Palestinians, including innocent men women and children
Suicidal empathy is stupid. Virtue signal harder, though. Very useful.
you give access to these terrorist ran countries and watch what they do with nuclear capabilities. If you care about human life then the last thing you want is to give them access to something they would most likely use to end human life at some point.
Yes, it is unreasonable, but I’d rather work towards that as an aspirational than some base slop. You don’t get to it but you still make the world a better place.
unreasonable...
The US does not need to be spending time and resources on things that are unreasonable and pretty much impossible.
Things like this is why the Democrats have the lowest approval rating in their history right now. They want Unicorns and Fairy Tales. And think you can think unrealistic things into existence.
Have innocents been killed? Without a doubt. Do innocents get killed in every single conflict? Without a doubt. There are obviously very good Palestinians. There are also those that harbor Hamas and those that refused to leave even after repeated warnings. The latter I don't feel bad about. Those were either aiding and abetting Hamas or just critically stupid. Those that refused to leave for whatever reasons they had were winners of the Darwin Awards. I'm actually very angry at the folks who refused to leave. Especially those with CHILDREN.
If we were invaded and Atlanta was being marched on by an overwhelming force, I'm grabbing my wife, little guy and every single thing I think I need to survive and getting as far away as possible. When death is the likely outcome of staying, you get the **** out. Shame on those that refused to leave when they knew what was coming.
Where did I saw the US would be doing this stuff?
Also yes, I think giving people access to nuclear weapons is bad, which is why I support getting rid of them.
Well there was nowhere for people to go because Israel was bombing the so called safe zones.
Dismissing the intentional targeting of civilians is bad.
Look, I’m a bleeding heart Catholic. We’re never going to see eye to eye on this
so now in your fairy tale you think this could be negotiated, handled, put into place, without the help of the United States?
And even if not using our financial resources, you think the US should just sit back and watch every country put in nuclear power without objection or without being a part of the process?
Rainbows and unicorns...
This statement defies reason. They'd have a much easier time annexing a friendly Gaza.
to get back to the original point of argument, I think Iran getting nuclear energy u see the oversight of the US is fine. The problem is our invasion of Iraq convinced Iran that they needed nuclear weapons to be safe. I’d rather not have this state of Cold War between us and Iran at danger of breaking out into open war but certain elements within the US and Israel want war
How? An important part of their annexation of Gaza is kicking out the Palestinians. Easier to do when you can invade and move them out. Their West Bank annexation is similar, settlers are kicking Palestinians off their land and homes
Every body here that doesn’t have to deal with the animals love Palestinians but don’t you find it a little odd nobody over there, none of their neighbors, I mean nobody wants them in their country.. Absolutely nobody wants them animals but all the anti simites ironically
I'm talking about your evident unicorn view of expecting the best of the worst. It's one thing to hope people whose actions indicate they are a threat to change and consider the greater good, but completely another to EXPECT and rely on that happening.
If that is truly your belief, rather than your ideal, put it into practice in YOUR life instead of advocating for the whole world to do something you don't do yourself.
Sorry not sorry to say this to you. Iran even with oversight is not approaching Nuclear energy the safe and clean way. It's now believed they have over 60% of the enriched Uranium needed to build their first bomb. Get out of this fairy tale and think logically about this.
Certain elements within the USA and Israel want Iran to never have the capability to build and deploy Nuclear weapons. The larger state sponsor of terrorism in the history of the world cannot ever have Nuclear weapons. Why is this so hard to understand?
Calling other humans animals is so antithetical to the gospel but I’m not surprised to see it. They don’t support taking Palestinian refugees because they know the Israelis won’t allow them to return home
No, I mean we’re already all chummy with murderers and rapists, just check out our government’s relationship with Netanyahu and Likud
When you’re as stupid as that particular poster, I imagine a lot of things are hard to understand. Going back and forth on whether it’s a septuagenarian hippie, or a 20 year old female sociology major. Tough to tell.
I’m saying our actions have made Iran getting nuclear weapons more likely
Iran and the Shia Caliphate leadership have always had designs to get Nuclear weapons. They have ambitions of being the most powerful Caliphate as well, which is partially why Saudi hates them. This was happening at some point whether we went into Iraq or not.
So why did we allow Pakistan and India to have it??