Oweh update

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I trust that the staff has a good idea on Oweh’s plan and has a back up option if he does stay in the draft. I think he’d do well to come back, but I get he wants to get to the league right now.
I think they do.......and I think they have....

Say hello to Braydon Hawthorne.
 

true-blue1

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Pilgrim said he's most likely staying in until the end (5/28) just to see if there's a chance that a large group of players opt out of the draft and it by default pushes him up to a late first round pick. And if that happens and we lose him, there's a huge group of good players that become available and we replace him with one of those players.
I think that’s smart on Otega’s part.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Pilgrim said he's most likely staying in until the end (5/28) just to see if there's a chance that a large group of players opt out of the draft and it by default pushes him up to a late first round pick. And if that happens and we lose him, there's a huge group of good players that become available and we replace him with one of those players.
I think we will get a great player no matter what but I really prefer 00 back for round two!
 

anon1751545683

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So, according to this thread.... Oweh isn't good enough for the NBA, needs to greatly improve his skills, lacks elite/consistent shooting, ball handling, elite defense and high level athleticism. Yet, he is also evidently pre-season all sec, SEC 1st team, and a conference POY and NPOY candidate simply by returning to college. That's one hell of a spectrum.
Looks like it!🤪

But the reality is, a guy can be a great college player and not a pro prospect. Oweh is a great college player and not a pro.
 

Tprinceuk

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So, according to this thread.... Oweh isn't good enough for the NBA, needs to greatly improve his skills, lacks elite/consistent shooting, ball handling, elite defense and high level athleticism. Yet, he is also evidently pre-season all sec, SEC 1st team, and a conference POY and NPOY candidate simply by returning to college. That's one hell of a spectrum.
Look I love Oweh but NBA skill level and college skill level are nowhere near the same, he can be an all american in college and still not be good enough for the NBA yet.
 
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Look I love Oweh but NBA skill level and college skill level are nowhere near the same, he can be an all american in college and still not be good enough for the NBA yet.
Oscar was NPOY and has spent 2 years on 2-ways contracts playing mostly in the g league. There's obviously such a thing as a college skillset and an NBA skillset and they aren't always the same thing. But, Lead Belly is a troll who just likes to argue and fight and he's probably playing dumb for the sake of trolling.
 

trueblujr

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He will probably be on some pre-season watch lists, but he has holes in his game. There’s a reason why he’s looked at as a borderline second round pick, at best, in the Draft. He’s a good player but he’s not elite at anything, has poor handles and a sub-par shot for an NBA guard, and he misses way too many shots at the rim (most of our team did last year for some reason). Doesn’t mean he can’t improve on those things, but what he showed last year doesn’t make him the SEC POY favorite or a first team AA.
Last I checked NBA draft prospects isn’t a deciding factor in who is named an AA or All-SEC player. Oweh will certainly be a pre-season favorite for first team All-SEC and SEC POY. Not sure where he will be on AA lists but he will be pretty highly regarded. NBA draft ability has nothing to do with it.
 
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So, according to this thread.... Oweh isn't good enough for the NBA, needs to greatly improve his skills, lacks elite/consistent shooting, ball handling, elite defense and high level athleticism. Yet, he is also evidently pre-season all sec, SEC 1st team, and a conference POY and NPOY candidate simply by returning to college. That's one hell of a spectrum.

Oscar was national player of the year and came back to school.

So what’s your point???
 

BlueBlood96Cat

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Oweh is gonna be the SEC POY favorite and a first team all American most likely. This is a bad take

This in fact was the bad take ^ take of the blue colored glasses homie
Oweh was a stud last year. Best player on a good Kentucky team. Most consistent. Took a big leap from his year at Oklahoma to UK and expect the same thing from last season to this one. For some reason Oweh doesn’t get the credit he deserves. I’m still confused on the people who think he isn’t a NBA athlete. It’s not always about skill when you get drafted. His shot is ugly but his overall game and athleticism and the way he carries his self will earn him a long career as a role player imo. Time will tell
 

SandyBell'sFaxMachine

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He will probably be on some pre-season watch lists, but he has holes in his game. There’s a reason why he’s looked at as a borderline second round pick, at best, in the Draft. He’s a good player but he’s not elite at anything, has poor handles and a sub-par shot for an NBA guard, and he misses way too many shots at the rim (most of our team did last year for some reason). Doesn’t mean he can’t improve on those things, but what he showed last year doesn’t make him the SEC POY favorite or a first team AA.
You know who else was borderline 2nd round picks? A guy named Oscar and another with the last name of Edey. Being a top pick in the draft doesn't mean you are the best player in COLLEGE.

NPOY, both of them. That's only going back 3 years
 

PoBilly

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Fun discussion only going to get more tense over the next few days. Tomorrow is the 22nd, 6 more days of this. Stay or go, UK will be fine, be a top 5 team preseason and will have a legit shot at final 4. Aberdeen is an Oweh type of player listed as the same height. If Oweh stays in draft, there will be several replacements available out of the guys that pull out of the draft. I bet right now you have UK staffers in discussion for guys that are plan B, C, D, E and F. If he stays then we are all set. I am not rushing time as I get older, but fall on this year will be fun. Summer workout reports will have us hanging on every word. GO BIG BLUE!

My money (I DO NOT BET), My money would be on Oweh being in Royal Blue and White in Lextown.
 

BBNinSC_rivals62411

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Oweh was a stud last year. Best player on a good Kentucky team. Most consistent. Took a big leap from his year at Oklahoma to UK and expect the same thing from last season to this one. For some reason Oweh doesn’t get the credit he deserves. I’m still confused on the people who think he isn’t a NBA athlete. It’s not always about skill when you get drafted. His shot is ugly but his overall game and athleticism and the way he carries his self will earn him a long career as a role player imo. Time will tell
Great post.
 

sefus12

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You know who else was borderline 2nd round picks? A guy named Oscar and another with the last name of Edey. Being a top pick in the draft doesn't mean you are the best player in COLLEGE.

NPOY, both of them. That's only going back 3 years
Both of those guys were completely elite at things. Oweh isn’t. I don’t know why this is bothering some of you so much. I hope Oweh comes back as he will make our team better. But the guy isn’t a top 5 or 10 player in college next year. Chill on the expectations a bit. It’s not fair to Oweh to peg him an AA or SEC POY going into the season.
 

Runt#1969

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I think Oweh is an all American next year if he returns. I know there are some players who can pop off and be poy next year but Oweh definitely belongs in the conversation..
I do believe he returns and earns all american status next year. He's got the room to improve where he needs to, namely his jumpshot, and otherwise, he will be one of the premier players at the entire college level next year

As far as "In-Game" guys you want in the game at the end of a game? I'll take Oweh against the field. That's where we will start. And he will surely improve his draft status tremendously next year. I don't know what the ceiling is, I doubt ever a lottery pick, but he has the ability to step his game up and show he is truly a generational guy.

He's right there, if you ask me. Perfect for the modern college basketball game this year.

Go Big Blue !
 
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Nicholascat

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He has no chance of being a 1st round pick no matter who goes back to college, if enough players go back he'd be projected around mid to late 2nd round.

I think there's enough talent to overcome losing Oweh, though of course I want him back. I just wonder why Lowe still hasn't removed his name.
 
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ArtLaibsGhost_rivals

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Does Oweh have " some holes in his game" Yes. Does pretty much everyone in draft below about #20 Yes. It will boil down to his estimation of wether another season of college improves his chances for a higher pick.If he improves as much this season as he did last that answer would be a YES. If he doesn't it would be a no, probably not. As for the SEC POY talk, he will be in the conversation certainly, how can he not be, he's one of the leagues top returning players.
 
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Tubbyfan78

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So, according to this thread.... Oweh isn't good enough for the NBA, needs to greatly improve his skills, lacks elite/consistent shooting, ball handling, elite defense and high level athleticism. Yet, he is also evidently pre-season all sec, SEC 1st team, and a conference POY and NPOY candidate simply by returning to college. That's one hell of a spectrum.
Bud, if you don’t know the difference between college and NBa by now, there’s no explaining it to you.
 

bucsrule8872

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We will still have a strong squad without Oweh. Others will have to step up.

Projected Starters

G Lowe
G Aberdeen
G Williams
F Dioubate
F Garrison(Quaintance once 100%)

Reserves

G Johnson
G Chandler
F Noah/Hawthorne
F Jelavic
F Moreno/Potter

And there are a lot of wings still out there that we could get.

Watkins, Luis, Darrion Williams, etc. could fill the spot.

With Oweh we have a championship ceiling.

Without Oweh, it’s probably an Elite Eight ceiling.

Add a good replacement and we are back in the championship conversation.
 

bucsrule8872

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That roster should still be able to contend for a championship even without Oweh. Kam Williams may be even better than Oweh by mid season. He definitely has better size as far as height and length. Probably a better defender and certainly a better shooter than Oweh. We also have Chandler, Aberdeen. Noah and Johnson that can play the 2 and 3 as needed. You can also move Dioubate down to the 3 spot.
Yup.

Lots of versatility.

Hope we get Oweh back, but it’s not the end of the world, if he leaves.
 

Slowwalker

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Can’t see it. Kid is a warrior.
Can’t see what? Where did I say he isn’t a warrior. You can’t see him not being as much of a focus of offense since we have a deep, deep team? You can’t see him getting a year older? You can’t see him possibly injuring himself playing another year of basketball?
 

chroix

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Can’t see what? Where did I say he isn’t a warrior. You can’t see him not being as much of a focus of offense since we have a deep, deep team? You can’t see him getting a year older? You can’t see him possibly injuring himself playing another year of basketball?

I disagreed when you said this:
“ Last year he benefitted from a huge number of injuries that forced us to look to him more often than we would have needed had we been completely healthy.”

I think he is hungry af and enjoys dominating games. He made himself undeniable. He was gonna get looks. That’s my take.
 
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LmdCat

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This is what I expected anyways.

Still has opportunities to workout for teams, etc.

Hope it's still the plan to come back- he'll make more money and have a chance to move further up the draft boards.
He nor his family are hurting for money. His brother got that covered. I think just saying he made it to the league is what he wants. If it was about money, he would be back at Kentucky, imho.
 

Slowwalker

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I disagreed when you said this:
“ Last year he benefitted from a huge number of injuries that forced us to look to him more often than we would have needed had we been completely healthy.”

I think he is hungry af and enjoys dominating games. He made himself undeniable. He was gonna get looks. That’s my take.
I agree he’s hungry, he just didn’t get as many opportunities to score with JR on the floor.
 

Skyguyb27

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He nor his family are hurting for money. His brother got that covered. I think just saying he made it to the league is what he wants. If it was about money, he would be back at Kentucky, imho.
I agree, if I was even close to NBA opportunities I would do everything I could to get there. I don’t blame him a bit for trying to get his dream now.
 

PoBilly

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We will know soon enough. I would say by now Pope has a good read on what OO is going to do and they both are probably talking a bit about it during OO down time between workouts. We are getting ready to see all kinds of draft news.