Them having a gun is a legitimate concern.....but that would be a concern anyway.
Pack of bikers chase down and beat a NYC driver
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Them having a gun is a legitimate concern.....but that would be a concern anyway.
They aren't pressing charges against the brake check biker. They are only going after the two that assaulted and stabbed the driver.
"Police, meanwhile, are zeroing in on two other suspects, including the one who slashed Lien, sending him to the hospital for stitches.“They’re trying to ID two of the guys. One of them is the main guy. He’s the one that assaulted the victim. On the video, he was wearing the chrome helmet that has a logo of a bird,” a third source said late Tuesday."
"Police, meanwhile, are zeroing in on two other suspects, including the one who slashed Lien, sending him to the hospital for stitches.“They’re trying to ID two of the guys. One of them is the main guy. He’s the one that assaulted the victim. On the video, he was wearing the chrome helmet that has a logo of a bird,” a third source said late Tuesday."
I saw on some newscast where a guy who was supposedly a part of this pack said that the driver was swerving and cutting off the motorcycles and instigated the whole thing. That's why the guy did the brake-check at 0:27. I don't buy it. I bet these guys were swarming around cars like in the other videos above and the SUV was trying to avoid folks. But something pissed them off. So they tried to show out. And dude got bumped. Then when folks pounded on his car w/ his wife/kid in there. You KNOW she had to be screaming at him to GTFO of there.
That's ******** just like the story on the Today show with the family of the wanna be rapper. They were saying he was just trying to help the guy that the SUV bumped. ********. Thig mofo trying to be a bad *** in front of a Land Rover and got run over. Dumbass! No sympathy for anyone in that video except for the family that was tormented and the dad beaten while probably just trying to drive his family somewhere. I was half way hoping to see the dude smashing the helmet on the window fly backwards with his head half way gone.
My question is where were the damn police? That went on long enough for at least sirens to be heard. Nothing.
My question is where were the damn police? That went on long enough for at least sirens to be heard. Nothing.
Sure, after they lit your *** up. All you rednecks act like because you're carrying a gun you can suddenly take on the world and everyone's going to flee in terror cause ole Johnny boy got him a dern gun n he kin shoot you right tween the dern eyes. If those dumbasses are crazy enough to do the **** they did in that video then something tells me they're looking for the opportunity to blow someones head off just as much as all y'all are.
I was on Bourbon Street during Lundi Gras (the last Monday night of Mardi Gras and easily the craziest night of the entire event). We walked off of the main strip because the crowd was absolutely insane. Side streets in New Orleans during Mardi Gras are not your friend. There was a guy getting his *** kicked by more than one person and several people ran over to try to stop it. A guy pulled out a pistol and started shooting. I honestly don't remember getting more than 200 yds or so away. I just knew I had stopped running and was checking for bullet holes. And no, he wasn't just shooting in the air.
DS can attest to this. I had a gun pulled on me after a JV football game that I was watching at our high school. The school is in a terrible part of town. I was walking to my mom's car with my trashy girlfriend (every body had one at some point right?) when a group of kids from the neighborhood started walking away fast as one of their buddies stayed behind. As I was opening the door for my girlfriend (I am a gentleman even to the rough ones), I looked up and saw that the guy was standing near the middle of the front of the car and had a gun out pointing it at my head. I told her to climb on the floor. I closed her door. I walked around the back of the car to the drivers side and got in. By this time he had moved over to my side and was pointing it at me and laughing. I cranked the car. He pulled back he hammer (it was a revolver snub nose 380). I threw it into drive and he turned and ran like crazy as I tried to run his *** over. We called the cops and they gave me all sort of **** for trying to kill the guy. There were three cops there in the football coach's office. As we were loading up to finally go home one of the cops pulled me to the side and said he would have gotten me out of it and that it was to bad I didn't drive better.
I acted extremely different when the bullets were flying. You just never know what you will do until it is happening but I still bet most people would run as they hear the gun going off. They may not even know they are running like me.
DS can attest to this. I had a gun pulled on me after a JV football game that I was watching at our high school. The school is in a terrible part of town. I was walking to my mom's car with my trashy girlfriend (every body had one at some point right?) when a group of kids from the neighborhood started walking away fast as one of their buddies stayed behind. As I was opening the door for my girlfriend (I am a gentleman even to the rough ones), I looked up and saw that the guy was standing near the middle of the front of the car and had a gun out pointing it at my head. I told her to climb on the floor. I closed her door. I walked around the back of the car to the drivers side and got in. By this time he had moved over to my side and was pointing it at me and laughing. I cranked the car. He pulled back he hammer (it was a revolver snub nose 380). I threw it into drive and he turned and ran like crazy as I tried to run his *** over. We called the cops and they gave me all sort of **** for trying to kill the guy. There were three cops there in the football coach's office. As we were loading up to finally go home one of the cops pulled me to the side and said he would have gotten me out of it and that it was to bad I didn't drive better.
I acted extremely different when the bullets were flying. You just never know what you will do until it is happening but I still bet most people would run as they hear the gun going off. They may not even know they are running like me.
I know things
work differently in the movies, but in real life situations similar to this when gun fire erupts people take cover and get out of the way. Ask any law enforcement member and they'll say the same thing. Of course, this doesn't fit the "guNZ Iz TerrBLEs" liberal, mantra that some push.
work differently in the movies, but in real life situations similar to this when gun fire erupts people take cover and get out of the way. Ask any law enforcement member and they'll say the same thing. Of course, this doesn't fit the "guNZ Iz TerrBLEs" liberal, mantra that some push.
Would have been diferent in MS for sure if driver was packing...
A few questions..
Did the driver not call 911?
Where were the police during all of this?
I would never have stopped in traffic. Take the sidewalk if need be...
Only fire weapon as a last resort, being in NY you know the driver was not packing any heat...
A few questions..
Did the driver not call 911?
Where were the police during all of this?
I would never have stopped in traffic. Take the sidewalk if need be...
Only fire weapon as a last resort, being in NY you know the driver was not packing any heat...
Even if he was swerving, I can sympathize...
I've had one of these groups surround me on 240 in Memphis before. 30-40 crotch rockets passing me and on my bumper and cutting me off with me going 70-80 and them going 100+. These guys get inches away from you. It freezes you up. You don't want to accelerate or tap the breaks because these ******** are on all corners of you and very close. I froze and just coasted and let them be on their way. This guy didn't have that luxury since there were hundreds. He probably got nervous and didn't know what to do, tensed up and probably checked a couple guys who were a foot or two away from him in the first place.
I've had one of these groups surround me on 240 in Memphis before. 30-40 crotch rockets passing me and on my bumper and cutting me off with me going 70-80 and them going 100+. These guys get inches away from you. It freezes you up. You don't want to accelerate or tap the breaks because these ******** are on all corners of you and very close. I froze and just coasted and let them be on their way. This guy didn't have that luxury since there were hundreds. He probably got nervous and didn't know what to do, tensed up and probably checked a couple guys who were a foot or two away from him in the first place.
Biker groups like these have been known to block cops when they show up. Very possible a cop or two could have been blocked in the back of the group. They'll often remove license plates so there is basically nothing the cops can do about it unless the cops were to plow through a few of them with their car.
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The chase went right by the backside of my apartment building. The beatdown was about five blocks away. I'm surprised I didn't hear the rumble.
Moronic behavior by the bikers.
Moronic behavior by the bikers.
Since you're on this board I'm guessing you are from Mississippi or went to school in Mississippi but you're using the term redneck in a derogatory way. Do you see the irony here? And the amount of people that carry is not as high as you are making it out to be, maybe, maybe one in every 20, 30 people.
I don't see the irony, actually. Being from Mississippi doesn't make you a redneck. Acting like a redneck makes you a redneck.
I also realize that less than 25% of the general population carries a gun. But..
A) the general population includes women and children
B) someone who looks for trouble on his motorcycle is probably more susceptible to want to carry a gun, whether legally or illegally, than the average joe
Wewonitall(most) please explain to me how someone carrying a gun and shooting a crazy person trying to beat his way into the vehicle you and your family are in makes you a redneck what would you have done in this mans situation with your family in the car I personally keep a loaded pistol in my vehicle at all times and know I would have emptied the clip into anyone trying to come into a vehicle with my family inside if fighting and trying to protect your family while you are cornered like that makes someone a redneck in your eyes you can be damn sure to label me as one
First off, some periods would be helpful. That hurt to read.
Anyways, I honestly don't know what I would do. If I had a gun in the car my reaction would be to use it. But the point that I've been trying to make is that the pack mentality has already caused this crazy *** motorcyclists to chase a car for 4 miles, wait on it to stop, and proceed to beat their way into the car. Unlike the people that think that blasting the first guys face off would cause the other 49 bikers to scatter like cockroaches, I think that a relatively large percentage of these bikers would be carrying a firearm too. I think that the pack mentality would continue and they would light the 17 out of your vehicle. So now you go from you being nearly beaten to death, which gives you a chance at survival, and your family being unharmed. To you being dead, and you're family very likely being dead too.
Let me reiterate though: if I had a gun in the car with me in that situation, I would have used it. I am aware people act different in the actual situation than over a message board speaking hypothetically.
ETA: I completely skipped over you trying to put words in my mouth. I said that many people on this board have the typical redneck mentality that them and their guns will cause anyone to cower in fear and flee in terror. They try to come off as the cool, calm badass sharpshooter while the other person is a novice who will bug out at the first sign of danger.
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It's funny I knew what the sentiment would be in here before I read. Everybody else has it different.
But man if I had a two y/o in the back seat and thugs were busting out the windows I would have those two pushing up daisies. You'd be a fool to raise a family up there.
But man if I had a two y/o in the back seat and thugs were busting out the windows I would have those two pushing up daisies. You'd be a fool to raise a family up there.
Nice username! C'mon now if you run dogs like me you can't act like you aren't a redneck too!
You got to ask yourself, do I feel lucky today. So all you Wyatt Earps are
going to pull that stick and start blasting. But there's that chance that of the 50 maybe a dozen are packing and they return fire into your car and your wife and kid are hit. Are you feeling lucky. The thing is the driver should have called 911 immediately. Also, in a city of 40,000 cops why were they so slow to respond. Unreal.
going to pull that stick and start blasting. But there's that chance that of the 50 maybe a dozen are packing and they return fire into your car and your wife and kid are hit. Are you feeling lucky. The thing is the driver should have called 911 immediately. Also, in a city of 40,000 cops why were they so slow to respond. Unreal.
These
people tried to kill his ***. Do you not understand that? Defending yourself, instead of sitting there like an idiot and getting beat to death, is not being some big, badass redneck. It's being a human being.
people tried to kill his ***. Do you not understand that? Defending yourself, instead of sitting there like an idiot and getting beat to death, is not being some big, badass redneck. It's being a human being.
I wasn't trying to make out like I'm not a redneck. I was just trying to make a point that everyone that totes a gun is not a redneck.
He had his Samsung phone that always goes dead, and he uses AT&T. If it is anything like my phone, he had a 10% chance of actually making a call at any given moment.
The driver DID call 911--even before it escalated. http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/us/new-york-bikers-attack-video/index.html Some of the motorcycle 17tards are claiming they were trying to "help" the driver. Well, considering he was knifed, they did a ****** job. The guy was surrounded; he had his wife and 2 year old in the car. He did what he had to do. I think most of us in a similar situation, had we been carrying, would have started shooting.
When bullets start to fly, your instinct is to run. In many situations, that is not what you want to do. Bizarre as it sounds, in an ambush situation, the appropriate response is to charge your assailants--not take cover or run away, which will only get everyone killed. Schools--even elementary schools-- are "training" the kids to pile on a would-be assailant. But this response (charging a blazing gun) is not instinctual, and requires training.
When bullets start to fly, your instinct is to run. In many situations, that is not what you want to do. Bizarre as it sounds, in an ambush situation, the appropriate response is to charge your assailants--not take cover or run away, which will only get everyone killed. Schools--even elementary schools-- are "training" the kids to pile on a would-be assailant. But this response (charging a blazing gun) is not instinctual, and requires training.