Patience for Matt Rhule

[DrAlan_Grant]

The most hilarious thing would be basketball success taking heat off of Rhule, and him sucking for a 2 or 3 years, or actually marginal improvement, then all of the sudden, bam, we are a power house again.

But also who is Rhule? We are basketball school now. I'm loving every second of it.

 

[huskernation77]

Good to know. Thanks for your disinterest in Nebraska Football.

It's not my doing.

 

[Rcnut223]

Patience for Fred Hoiberg paid off. As fans, we need to give Matt Rhule the same level of patience.

Get outta here , not the same or comparible. Football has the history, facilities and resources to win.

Any Boob with Knowledge of football can see that Rhule is a fraud. Never stayed past 3 years at any school, played admin for a raise , and can't coach a lick during the game.

Coach speak is his claim for fame....

 

[suffocation_]

Good to know. Thanks for your disinterest in Nebraska Football.

I know you're hoping to farm likes from your fellow retards, but this is such a low IQ line of thinking.

A parent who hopes and expects their child to succeed in school is far more interested than the parent who is fine with their kid flunking half their classes.

 

[Anon1751408132]

If NU decision makers actually cared about winning again then the extension never would've happened and Rhule would be gone.

He's in over his head

 

[inWV]

So people are mad about the extension. Regardless of folks' feelings about Rhule around here, he is well respected in the coaching profession and actually got NU to back to back bowl games for the first time in a decade. Pelini took the good will of the fan base and threw it in the trash. It was a gold watch job for Riley, and Frost never put in the real work. I think putting a guy on the clock after three years and then running him off should guarantee more of what we've seen over the past decade.
I know people think they know how it will play out. People thought that about Solich and Pelini and fired them. We thought we knew how it would play out with Frost. We were horribly wrong.

 

[RBigredMax1]

I know you're hoping to farm likes from your fellow retards, but this is such a low IQ line of thinking.

A parent who hopes and expects their child to succeed in school is far more interested than the parent who is fine with their kid flunking half their classes.

While you are calling people retards could you please connect the dots on your example. A parent has direct influence over their child’s study habits and commitment. Their “hope” is direct involvement and 1-1 coaching and effort.

A normal fan does not have any of these opportunities to make the program better other than buying the occasional ticket and husker merch. Which on its own doesn’t really impact anything.

 

[HuskerO58]

Never stayed past 3 years at any school,

Temple: 4 years
Baylor: 3 years
Carolina: 3 years, but not his decision
Nebraska: soon to be 4 years.

 

[suffocation_]

While you are calling people retards could you please connect the dots on your example. A parent has direct influence over their child’s study habits and commitment. Their “hope” is direct involvement and 1-1 coaching and effort.

A normal fan does not have any of these opportunities to make the program better other than buying the occasional ticket and husker merch. Which on its own doesn’t really impact anything.

Disappointment =/= not interested.

Thank you for self-identifying as the group I was talking about, though.

 

[suffocation_]

So people are mad about the extension. Regardless of folks' feelings about Rhule around here, he is well respected in the coaching profession and actually got NU to back to back bowl games for the first time in a decade. Pelini took the good will of the fan base and threw it in the trash. It was a gold watch job for Riley, and Frost never put in the real work. I think putting a guy on the clock after three years and then running him off should guarantee more of what we've seen over the past decade.
I know people think they know how it will play out. People thought that about Solich and Pelini and fired them. We thought we knew how it would play out with Frost. We were horribly wrong.

This board was largely over the moon when Rhule was hired, and anyone who accurately predicted how his tenure would play out (like me) were told we couldn't know that.

Now your only defense of Rhule is "well it could be a lot worse."

Winless against ranked opponents.
Winless against Iowa.

If you're telling me you would've accepted and anticipated that by year 4, then you just have no interest in seeing Nebraska being a competitive football team ever again.

 

[RBigredMax1]

Disappointment =/= not interested.

Thank you for self-identifying as the group I was talking about, though.

Self identifying because your little analogy made zero sense while you called people retards in the same post. Got it.

Can’t wait for your next doozy.

 

[suffocation_]

Self identifying because your little analogy made zero sense while you called people retards in the same post. Got it.

Can’t wait for your next doozy.

Pretending to be too stupid to understand it (even though you did) is a hilarious defense.

I can always count on you to come running when you hear your middle name being thrown around

 

[Bigred2467]

There should be no excuses if we don't have a winning season this year.

 

[orclover11]

Rhule seems to have a hard time dealing with criticism and failure. He blocked all the husker media accounts on his twitter. NFL really took all his momentum and confidence.

For all of your ridiculous wrong takes this one is really spot on. He had enough meaningless success, a little like Bo, that he thought it was his "vision", "organization", "leadership" that lead to winning at Temple and Baylor. Then when he ran into failure he didn't know how to lean on competent assistants to him adjust to a new situation. He was openly brazen about things being done "his way", which is a terrible idea when you have 150+ athletes and more than a dozen adults to manage...like how as he ever supposed to adapt and grow?

 

[Spinner4]

The worst thing Matt Rhule did to the program is kill the excitement. The spring game this Saturday, does anyone care? How full will it even be especially if the basketball team wins Thursday?

You can piss fans off, fine. But the minute they stop spending, that’s a problem

 

[OxfordComma]

This board was largely over the moon when Rhule was hired, and anyone who accurately predicted how his tenure would play out (like me) were told we couldn't know that.

Now your only defense of Rhule is "well it could be a lot worse."

Winless against ranked opponents.
Winless against Iowa.

If you're telling me you would've accepted and anticipated that by year 4, then you just have no interest in seeing Nebraska being a competitive football team ever again.

Over the moon is a wild overstatement. That was more like the reaction over hiring Frost. For Rhule, hopefully a solid hire is more like it. Unlike Riley, and Frost who proved not to be. Somebody that could hopefully raise the floor, but not likely to get us all the way there. For one reason, he won’t stay long enough to do so. That is how I viewed the hire at the time.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

So people are mad about the extension. Regardless of folks' feelings about Rhule around here, he is well respected in the coaching profession and actually got NU to back to back bowl games for the first time in a decade. Pelini took the good will of the fan base and threw it in the trash. It was a gold watch job for Riley, and Frost never put in the real work. I think putting a guy on the clock after three years and then running him off should guarantee more of what we've seen over the past decade.
I know people think they know how it will play out. People thought that about Solich and Pelini and fired them. We thought we knew how it would play out with Frost. We were horribly wrong.

What makes you say this? The guy rarely attracts anything better than second tier (or lower) assistant coaches and has cycled through them like he changes shirts. And the couple good ones he's stumbled onto have bailed after a year because he pisses them off and they can't wait to get away from him. What part of any of that makes you think he is "well respected in the coaching profession"? If anything, all signs would indicate the extreme opposite. Most within the coaching profession want nothing to do with him.

 

[Huskersdewclaw]

Disagree. Fan base and facilities is a Cadillac

Cadillac is not what it used to be. So…the analogy might just be fitting.

 

[huskernation77]

So people are mad about the extension. Regardless of folks' feelings about Rhule around here, he is well respected in the coaching profession and actually got NU to back to back bowl games for the first time in a decade. Pelini took the good will of the fan base and threw it in the trash. It was a gold watch job for Riley, and Frost never put in the real work. I think putting a guy on the clock after three years and then running him off should guarantee more of what we've seen over the past decade.
I know people think they know how it will play out. People thought that about Solich and Pelini and fired them. We thought we knew how it would play out with Frost. We were horribly wrong.

Back to back meaningless bottom of the barrel bowl games. Oh God I'm so excited for year four

 

[1thomas]

What makes you say this? The guy rarely attracts anything better than second tier (or lower) assistant coaches and has cycled through them like he changes shirts. And the couple good ones he's stumbled onto have bailed after a year because he pisses them off and they can't wait to get away from him. What part of any of that makes you think he is "well respected in the coaching profession"? If anything, all signs would indicate the extreme opposite. Most within the coaching profession want nothing to do with him.

Very little that is accurate in this post.

 

[K Rod]

So people are mad about the extension. Regardless of folks' feelings about Rhule around here, he is well respected in the coaching profession and actually got NU to back to back bowl games for the first time in a decade. Pelini took the good will of the fan base and threw it in the trash. It was a gold watch job for Riley, and Frost never put in the real work. I think putting a guy on the clock after three years and then running him off should guarantee more of what we've seen over the past decade.
I know people think they know how it will play out. People thought that about Solich and Pelini and fired them. We thought we knew how it would play out with Frost. We were horribly wrong.

Nobody will run Ruhle off with that massive buyout. Too many dollars needed for the stadium and NIL. Pelini and Solich both delivered a win % right at 70% and yet that was not good enough. Both Ruhle and Riley were/are 19-19 after three seasons. Like him or not, he will be here until 2030 at least. Not many people are buying into the pre season hype this time around. But you never know. Few people thought Fred would breakout with a team this good before the year began. I do think the new DC and O Line coach will make a difference this year. Not running the 3-3-5 will also help IMO.

 

[king_kong__]

What makes you say this? The guy rarely attracts anything better than second tier (or lower) assistant coaches and has cycled through them like he changes shirts. And the couple good ones he's stumbled onto have bailed after a year because he pisses them off and they can't wait to get away from him. What part of any of that makes you think he is "well respected in the coaching profession"? If anything, all signs would indicate the extreme opposite. Most within the coaching profession want nothing to do with him.

Yep

there is a 0% chance he coaches anywhere of consequence ever again once we’re finally rid of him

 

[suffocation_]

Over the moon is a wild overstatement. That was more like the reaction over hiring Frost. For Rhule, hopefully a solid hire is more like it. Unlike Riley, and Frost who proved not to be. Somebody that could hopefully raise the floor, but not likely to get us all the way there. For one reason, he won’t stay long enough to do so. That is how I viewed the hire at the time.

that may be true for you personally, but it's not true for the general discourse amongst fans in 2022.

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[SuperBigFan69]

"Well respected in the coaching industry" almost always means the guy is a flop of a coach.

They say that stuff about Riley and Fitz and The iowa coach and Fickell...

Dudes that never win anything but do just enough to sort of keep fans happy and keep their job.

My guess is that 99% of all the head coaches at the D1 level are pretty nice guys and if they were your neighbor and worked at Mutual of Omaha instead of being a D1 head coach, you would think they were just your typical everyday guy that you sometimes chat with and maybe drink a beer with...

Rhule is no different, he is just a regular guy that happened to get a winning lotto ticket.

 

[suffocation_]

Sean Payton clearly told Shanle what a stupid hire this was, much to the chagrin of the low-IQ portion of this fan base

 

[suffocation_]

"Well respected in the coaching industry" almost always means the guy is a flop of a coach.

They say that stuff about Riley and Fitz and The iowa coach and Fickell...

Dudes that never win anything but do just enough to sort of keep fans happy and keep their job.

My guess is that 99% of all the head coaches at the D1 level are pretty nice guys and if they were your neighbor and worked at Mutual of Omaha instead of being a D1 head coach, you would think they were just your typical everyday guy that you sometimes chat with and maybe drink a beer with...

Rhule is no different, he is just a regular guy that happened to get a winning lotto ticket.

The irony being all 4 of those guys are twice the coach Rhule is.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

Sean Payton clearly told Shanle what a stupid hire this was, much to the chagrin of the low-IQ portion of this fan base

I never saw this tweet but I remember SS was not a fan and I think even ended up no longer being a guest on the local (omaha) sports talk shows over this.

He was right.

I never liked the Rhule hire from the start, hell, I liked the Riley hire more than Rhule and they are pretty much the same coach.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

The irony being all 4 of those guys are twice the coach Rhule is.

Now the big question...which one of those four would be the most fun to have as a neighbor?

 

[K Rod]

Now that we have a decent O line coach, and with any luck a better defense system, our overall play this year may be better even if our record goes backward. That is what I suspect will be the case. Some of the portal guys appear to be ok. But until somebody figures out how to develop recruits this is where we will be. Spending every last NIL dollar for middle of the road portal guys hoping they can plug holes that our underclassmen SHOULD be filling. Until this changes, nothing else will. Had we been much better at player development, we could have gone out and got 5-6 top players instead of 20 average guys with some promise. The things I have not heard about, S & C program, player development in my opinion are the keys to Matt making any kind of long term progress above being a .500 coach. Losing Eckler is going to hurt though. A lot IMHO. Bottom line, if your below .500 after four full seasons in Lincoln then fan apathy will be a real issue. In some circles it already is.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Rhule seems to have a hard time dealing with criticism and failure. He blocked all the husker media accounts on his twitter. NFL really took all his momentum and confidence.

he was never cut out to be the coach here in the first place.. someone can go back in the threads and find it, but I told more than a few on here, that Matt Rhule wasn't going to be able to handle the pressure here, it was easy to see, so this idea that we didn't know he couldn't handle the pressure is bs.

 

[Scoop123]

Nobody will run Ruhle off with that massive buyout. Too many dollars needed for the stadium and NIL. Pelini and Solich both delivered a win % right at 70% and yet that was not good enough. Both Ruhle and Riley were/are 19-19 after three seasons. Like him or not, he will be here until 2030 at least. Not many people are buying into the pre season hype this time around. But you never know. Few people thought Fred would breakout with a team this good before the year began. I do think the new DC and O Line coach will make a difference this year. Not running the 3-3-5 will also help IMO.

Good post.

The new coaches will help, but turning a football team around IMO is much harder than a hoops team. Rhule still has no idea what our identity is on either side of the ball. When the guy in charge changes his approach with the weather - we are rudderless. I'd rather be Air Force and know who we are. That triple option gave Boise State heck for a long time. They know who they are.

Rhule has zero identity as a coach. I would love anyone to tell me I'm wrong and show me what it is. Good assistants are going to help, but it only slows the crazy train (Oz) down a little.

 

[salsa red]

he was never cut out to be the coach here in the first place.. someone can go back in the threads and find it, but I told more than a few on here, that Matt Rhule wasn't going to be able to handle the pressure here, it was easy to see, so this idea that we didn't know he couldn't handle the pressure is bs.

He seems like he has terrible anxiety that spirals when things are going bad. Probably has unresolved trauma from being Sanduskied at PSU.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Very little that is accurate in this post.

Oh really? Which parts aren't accurate? I'll even make it easy for you. Name our top 5 assistant coaches under him.

 

[Anon1752071136]

Rhule is a lifetime .500 coach and we will continue to get .500 results for as long as he is here. I will patiently await his next .500 season, but I sure as hell won't expect anything to get better.

 

[1thomas]

Oh really? Which parts aren't accurate? I'll even make it easy for you. Name our top 5 assistant coaches under him.

Only posted so that others would know that not everyone is on the same miserable train as you are. Nothing I say will matter to you and I don't usually try to convince anyone I'm right anyway.
I'm sure(I guess) that you want the best for our program as do I, I just get tired of the incessant negativity.

 

[suffocation_]

I'm sure(I guess)

lmao

I just get tired of the incessant negativity.

we get tired of every fall Saturday seeing the same god-awful product trotted out onto the field unless we're playing some directional FCS school

 

[suffocation_]

Good post.

The new coaches will help, but turning a football team around IMO is much harder than a hoops team. Rhule still has no idea what our identity is on either side of the ball. When the guy in charge changes his approach with the weather - we are rudderless. I'd rather be Air Force and know who we are. That triple option gave Boise State heck for a long time. They know who they are.

Rhule has zero identity as a coach. I would love anyone to tell me I'm wrong and show me what it is. Good assistants are going to help, but it only slows the crazy train (Oz) down a little.

i've had coaches like Rhule before. all of them were before high school.

they're more concerned with the logistics of who is bringing the celebratory orange slices and giving self-congratulatory speeches at pizza hut than they are treating the game as something that needs to be won no matter the cost.

someone said it here earlier that Rhule is probably a nice guy. he is, and that's the problem. competitive coaches, even beginning at the HS level have an element of narcissism about themselves. they know they're the best. rhule lets a crying kid determine his career path. he is an extraordinary case in luck and falling upward.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Only posted so that others would know that not everyone is on the same miserable train as you are. Nothing I say will matter to you and I don't usually try to convince anyone I'm right anyway.
I'm sure(I guess) that you want the best for our program as do I, I just get tired of the incessant negativity.

Two pages of (mostly) negative posts about Rhule and you single mine out to try to make a point? Yet, you can't refute anything I said with actual discussion? Seems the problem may be on your end.

 

[OxfordComma]

that may be true for you personally, but it's not true for the general discourse amongst fans in 2022.

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Neither is over the moon excitement true of the general discourse.

Whenever you replace your failed coach with somebody new, there’s always going to be more optimism and hope. But there was plenty of talk at the time of Rhule’s hire about his record against ranked teams, his failure at Carolina, and his penchant for changing jobs every few years. On the up side, he seemed to be our top choice. So we got who Trev wanted.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

i've had coaches like Rhule before. all of them were before high school.

they're more concerned with the logistics of who is bringing the celebratory orange slices and giving self-congratulatory speeches at pizza hut than they are treating the game as something that needs to be won no matter the cost.

someone said it here earlier that Rhule is probably a nice guy. he is, and that's the problem. competitive coaches, even beginning at the HS level have an element of narcissism about themselves. they know they're the best. rhule lets a crying kid determine his career path. he is an extraordinary case in luck and falling upward.

Yep!

I said that about him because other weird fans seem to use that as some positive thing.

"He is a nice guy, you can tell he means well and loves NU and his family!"

Great, so he is pretty much a normal everyday guy, awesome. Who cares.

Go win games.

I don't need my head coach to be nice and give nice speeches and nice soundbites. I don't care if the head coach "likes me".