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To think, if he’d have just done this on day one like he said he would………

(Now, granted, I understand as a never-before-HC he probably didn’t have the cache to lure decent names in yr one. He also didn’t have Donati backing him.)
 

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I mean his selling point to candidates.

None of these hires are guys who had no other options. Any one of them could have gone somewhere with a more stable situation.

If you read some internet rumors (fwiw), Briles was told to find another job, as he wasn't coming back to TCU.

But to your point, I still think he could have landed other jobs, even if that is true.

The simplest explanation? Money. Give a coordinator a 2 or 3 year contract and he could take a job in a shaky situation. Position coaches are even more transient, so I dont put a quick move past them.
 

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If you read some internet rumors (fwiw), Briles was told to find another job, as he wasn't coming back to TCU.
Yeah, their fans all over X saying we're getting a dud b/c he did too many slants on 3rd down or something. All I know is he has consistently produced offenses that score around 30 ppg, which would make him legendary here.
 

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Yeah, their fans all over X saying we're getting a dud b/c he did too many slants on 3rd down or something. All I know is he has consistently produced offenses that score around 30 ppg, which would make him legendary here.
I'm concerned what his style of offense will do to our defense, We have had pathetic offenses here under Beamer, due to his poor hiring. Yes, we need to do a lot better scoring points on offense. But if Briles offense ends up disadvantaging our defense, that's not good. TCU's defense is ranked 70th. As you know, 18, defense is what wins championships. 6 of the playoff teams have Top 10 defenses. Only 3 have Top 10 offenses.
 
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I'm concerned what his style of offense will do to our defense, We have had pathetic offenses here under Beamer, due to his poor hiring. Yes, we need to do a lot better scoring points on offense. But if Briles offense ends up disadvantaging our defense, that's not good. TCU's defense is ranked 70th. As you know, 18, defense is what wins championships. 6 of the playoff teams have Top 10 defenses. Only 3 have Top 10 offenses.

That is a long standing debate about the tempo offense.

Feast or famine. When its working, you wear out the other team. Struggle and you wear out your own defense.

And often times you'll see a good portion of both throughout a season.
 

18IsTheMan

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I'm concerned what his style of offense will do to our defense, We have had pathetic offenses here under Beamer, due to his poor hiring. Yes, we need to do a lot better scoring points on offense. But if Briles offense ends up disadvantaging our defense, that's not good. TCU's defense is ranked 70th. As you know, 18, defense is what wins championships. 6 of the playoff teams have Top 10 defenses. Only 3 have Top 10 offenses.
It's a good question. When he was at Arkansas, they were top 10 nationally his last 2 seasons in rushing attempts/game (and 40th his first year). Conversely, there were 92nd, 115th and 109th in pass attempts per game. At TCU that's basically been reversed. They've been 4th, 14th and 22nd in passing attempts/game and 90th, 114th and 79th in rushing attempts per game.
 

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That is a long standing debate about the tempo offense.

Feast or famine. When its working, you wear out the other team. Struggle and you wear out your own defense.

And often times you'll see a good portion of both throughout a season.
If you can't run the ball and control time of possession, you can't win. Tempo is great between the 20s but when you get in the red zone, you have to be able to run the ball to score tds. At some point in a game, usually later in the game, a team needs to be able to sustain a drive and eat clock if they want to win.
 

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What’s a slant?
Sesame Street Idk GIF
 

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I'm concerned what his style of offense will do to our defense, We have had pathetic offenses here under Beamer, due to his poor hiring. Yes, we need to do a lot better scoring points on offense. But if Briles offense ends up disadvantaging our defense, that's not good. TCU's defense is ranked 70th. As you know, 18, defense is what wins championships. 6 of the playoff teams have Top 10 defenses. Only 3 have Top 10 offenses.
That’s a 100% valid concern. My thinking is, could his offense be any more dis-advantageous toward our defense than the offense was this year? 😂 I mean, it’s *gotta* be better, right?
 

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I'm concerned what his style of offense will do to our defense, We have had pathetic offenses here under Beamer, due to his poor hiring. Yes, we need to do a lot better scoring points on offense. But if Briles offense ends up disadvantaging our defense, that's not good. TCU's defense is ranked 70th. As you know, 18, defense is what wins championships. 6 of the playoff teams have Top 10 defenses. Only 3 have Top 10 offenses.
I'm going to posit that an improved offense of ANY kind would help a defense.
 

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That’s a 100% valid concern. My thinking is, could his offense be any more dis-advantageous toward our defense than the offense was this year? 😂 I mean, it’s *gotta* be better, right?
We finished 52nd in Total Defense and 45th in Scoring Defense out of 134 FBS teams. That's good. I hope we can keep that up and improve on it. I hope we don't lose Clayton White.
 

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We finished 52nd in Total Defense and 45th in Scoring Defense out of 134 FBS teams. That's good. I hope we can keep that up and improve on it. I hope we don't lose Clayton White.
Yes. While it would be awesome to see Briles come up and launch a high-powered and potent offense, scoring 40 ppg, we don't need that. We just need an offense to complement our defense.

If we had a competent offense this year, we'd have had 8 wins.
 
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Yes. While it would be awesome to see Briles come up and launch a high-powered and potent offense, scoring 40 ppg, we don't need that. We just need an offense to complement our defense.

If we had a competent offense this year, we'd have had 8 wins.
I don't think we have had a competent offense in any of the past 10 seasons. 2024 was the Sellers athleticism show. It was not our offense producing. It was Sellers individual performances. Illinois figured him out during several weeks of bowl preparation. Our 2025 opponents took notice. And the rest is history.
 

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Yeah, their fans all over X saying we're getting a dud b/c he did too many slants on 3rd down or something. All I know is he has consistently produced offenses that score around 30 ppg, which would make him legendary here.

I posted something similar yesterday, your correct, there fans are mad that he calls slants and screen passes so much, i miss watching those elements in a offense, and look forward to seeing those plays implemented in 2026 in the system. :)

Heck, maybe now that our offense will practice those, we will be better at stopping them, LOL
 

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Yes. While it would be awesome to see Briles come up and launch a high-powered and potent offense, scoring 40 ppg, we don't need that. We just need an offense to complement our defense.

If we had a competent offense this year, we'd have had 8 wins.
Oh, yeah.👍
 
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I don't think we have had a competent offense in any of the past 10 seasons. 2024 was the Sellers athleticism show. It was not our offense producing. It was Sellers individual performances. Illinois figured him out during several weeks of bowl preparation. Our 2025 opponents took notice. And the rest is history.
I'm not discounting Illinois, but I think we cut the legs out from under him ourselves in that game.
 

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We finished 52nd in Total Defense and 45th in Scoring Defense out of 134 FBS teams. That's good. I hope we can keep that up and improve on it. I hope we don't lose Clayton White.
I don't want to lose him either... He's been fairly consistent.... In a good way imo
After the 2nd half aTm fiasco, I think his stock dropped some, honestly. How can you let that happen?
 

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I don't want to lose him either... He's been fairly consistent.... In a good way imo
After the 2nd half aTm fiasco, I think his stock dropped some, honestly. How can you let that happen?
That was frankly more A&M just playing to their ability.

They had plenty of missed opportunities in the first half. Unforced mistakes. QB was making terrible plays. Reliable receivers were dropping easy catches. They had a number of dropped passes, one would have been an easy TD.

They cleaned it up at halftime.
 

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That was frankly more A&M just playing to their ability.

They had plenty of missed opportunities in the first half. Unforced mistakes. QB was making terrible plays. Reliable receivers were dropping easy catches. They had a number of dropped passes, one would have been an easy TD.

They cleaned it up at halftime.
Either their OC or the qb noticed about mid way thru the second quarter that our safeties would abandon the middle with nothing but a glance, and they popped us at will.
 

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If White is still here, with the upgrades of our offensive staff, I will be excited about the possibilities for next season.

All the above said, any thoughts on our new OL coach? His bio looks good. Some though have expressed skepticism.
 

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Either their OC or the qb noticed about mid way thru the second quarter that our safeties would abandon the middle with nothing but a glance, and they popped us at will.
We could have ran prevent defense the entire second half and still won with that lead .... No excuses imo
 

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I don't think we have had a competent offense in any of the past 10 seasons. 2024 was the Sellers athleticism show. It was not our offense producing. It was Sellers individual performances. Illinois figured him out during several weeks of bowl preparation. Our 2025 opponents took notice. And the rest is history.
Illinois would have been boat-raced if we had our entire team on the field. Fact.