Per Twitters and 247 4-star RB Kentavious Thomas commits.
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And once
again, another positive story on recruiting and the entire "merlinz caint croot" crowd is nowhere to be found. Shocking.
again, another positive story on recruiting and the entire "merlinz caint croot" crowd is nowhere to be found. Shocking.
Regardless of the current stars or where they'll end up, the thing I'm pleased about is that Mullen seems to be getting a jump on the recruiting season like never before. With just a few exceptions, his staff has proven to be a whole lot better at keeping early commits than closing the deal on ones late in the game.
What is the percentage of his commits that he loses? How does that compare to the rest of the league? Gives that answer and we can decide if you are right. Otherwise it appears that he loses very few early commits.
Just good players matter. Whatever they are ranked. A good player is a good player. Picked up an unranked kid today that I think is a good player. Doesn't matter if he ends up a 1* or 5* by the sites he is a player.
We finished 13th or 14th (depending on which recruting network)
out of 14 teams in the SEC.
3 players signed ranked 4 star or higher.
Not a single player we signed was ranked in the top 100.
You tell me.
out of 14 teams in the SEC.
3 players signed ranked 4 star or higher.
Not a single player we signed was ranked in the top 100.
You tell me.
According to 247, we have 4 4-stars. We had the same amount in 2009. I hope this class ends up sucking as badly as that class did.
You know sometimes it's best to judge a class after they play in the sec.
Agree to an extent, but it's hard to argue with the success of those who have typically signed higher rated classes.
However, this is more damning to me with States class this year than the lack of stars, stolen from Bopolis on NAFOOM:
Ole Miss - 25 players signed - 70 SEC offers other than from Ole Miss
MSU - 23 players signed - 16 SEC offers other than from MSU
Of these 16 SEC offers, 3 were for Gerri Green, 4 were for Jesse Jackson, and 5 were for Cory Thomas. So, that leaves 4 offers among the remaining 20 players.
16 of their 23 signees have no SEC offers other than MSU.
2 of our 25 signees have no SEC offers other than Ole Miss.
I see the point, but that has held true for most years when comparing our classes I would bet if he went back and looked. And it's not about just beating each other but he made the comparison and considering we are in the same state with similar size schools, budgets, etc. It's an appropriate comparison and the on the field results speaks for themselves.
It's not that stars don't matter, they do to a degree. It's the rankings that have people confused to what is really going on with talent. After the top 10-12 schools the talent is much closer than most people think, at least through the next 25 places or so. What is the difference of our 38 ranked with 3 4 stars and Michigan States 25 place. Basically 1 5 star player. A great player I'm sure but there is no way to know if he will pan out. Someone the other day posted about the number 5 stars that are 1st round draft picks. I would be willing to bet that most people, unless they really look at this stuff, would believe most 5 stars are can't miss 1st rounders. According to that data, only 18% per year are that good. I would bet that the number of 5 stars that busts or are very late draft picks are close in percentage if not even higher. Your only talking about 5-6 guys making it into the 1st round.
That being said, yes, the more 4-5 stars you have the better chances you have but they still have to develop. And if you are developmental program who is willing to develop lower ranked raw athletes then in 2-3 years the talent gap shrinks. Conversely wouldn't you say that the fact that some of our signees didn't have as many offers from SEC effect their rankings? After just one year it was obvious that McKinney was not ranked properly. Banks. Slay. Cox coming out of High School. Amazing how the more offers Chris Jones got the more stars he received. It didn't change how good of a player he was when our own fans were questioning why did we take his commit so soon because he was only 2*. The fact we took a no ranked player today doesn't change the fact that he is an SEC athlete IMO. Again, I always want the most talented players we can get, but that doesn't mean I really care what they are ranked if the on the field results are there. We are not there yet, we have to always strive to get better and add better talent.
Yeah and we all know those offers are pretty accurate.
Especially since they still have Rawlings having a M-State offer**
Especially since they still have Rawlings having a M-State offer**
Yea, because our coaching staff follows the same star ratings of 247. I trust Dan's talent evaluation over Paul jones, Yancy Porter, and Steve Robertson. He has already said he had Staley rated as a 5 star. But sure, keep using the recruiting sites as our sole standard.
What's the diff
bt a subjectively ranked 3* and a subjectively ranked 4*, 0.1 seconds on there 40? 10 lbs on their bench? 30 lbs on their squat?
bt a subjectively ranked 3* and a subjectively ranked 4*, 0.1 seconds on there 40? 10 lbs on their bench? 30 lbs on their squat?
Exactly. Recruiting rankings are for the fans. They tell some of the story, but they definitely don't tell the whole story. Do we need to recruit better? Sure. But our on-field results have shown we are not as poor as our recruiting rankings would suggest.
You also have to realize we are in Mississippi. Most of our players come from small town Mississippi. How do you truly expect them to get national publicity? Mississippi has just as good of athletes as any other state, and better athletes than most states.
You also have to realize we are in Mississippi. Most of our players come from small town Mississippi. How do you truly expect them to get national publicity? Mississippi has just as good of athletes as any other state, and better athletes than most states.
Do you trust Dan's talent evaluation over Nick Saban, Les Miles, Kevin Sumlin,
and Gus Malzahn? All 4 of them signed monster classes, two of them have at least 1 national title, and another just coached a team that played for one a few short weeks ago. And all 4 of them will field a team that will have MUCH more talent than we do this fall. But hey, maybe we will beat Arkansas again, and play in beautiful Birmingham during the Holidays. Because stars dont matter!!111!!!!1!!!!
and Gus Malzahn? All 4 of them signed monster classes, two of them have at least 1 national title, and another just coached a team that played for one a few short weeks ago. And all 4 of them will field a team that will have MUCH more talent than we do this fall. But hey, maybe we will beat Arkansas again, and play in beautiful Birmingham during the Holidays. Because stars dont matter!!111!!!!1!!!!
I keep seeing this dumbass argument. Are you really trying to brag that your coaches didnt offer jackson, mckinney, ballard, chris white or banks?
Awful evaluators of talent Id say....
The FACT is, since merlinz got to starkville, he is pumping out more nfl talent than ole miss. How what yancy porter or steve robertson say over GMs of nfl teams blows my mind. The proof is in the pudding.
Jesus, yall dropped 5 spots bc a kid spurned you for utah. 5 spots on a cb that will not make his grades. Let that sink in.
State will beat that *** in november and we will get to read about this same topic next january.
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I'm sure
he just did this in a few seconds. It's obvious that nutjob doesn't pay attention to what state does.********
he just did this in a few seconds. It's obvious that nutjob doesn't pay attention to what state does.********
Auburn went 0-8 the year before. Explain mizzou or south carolina. No way they should beat the ugas or floridas.
stars dont matter, talent does. Chris jones was always the best player in the country. No matter if he was a 2 or 5 star. Think if he wouldnt have played in the MS all star game. He would still be a 2 star with one offer. Like the majority of our guys.
hell, dak had no good offers until the night before signing day. Lsu missed out on a bunch and offered him last minute. Dak is the best qb in the sec this year with talks of heisman.