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That's why you are a fan that don't know ****
A good coach can recruit their style and Beard is one of them
Hey Naismith...Beard is widely considered to be one of the best defensive minds in the game. His teams are built on defense. Perry can't guard a trash can. So that's definitely not Beard's "style".
 
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UKBB4Ever

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I was worried about Beard to Indiana. I think Indiana isn’t worried about winning big anymore. Kentucky better get serious about keeping up, we need our next AD to be an attack dog. I’ll never understand this idea that you can’t hire a guy like Beard. Clearly you can and nobody cares. I have a grad degree from UK and I’m not embarrassed a bit by a coach with baggage. Has no relevance on my accomplishment nor the university itself. It’s an ego thing with some of these guys. “I’m too good” type of deal that only hurts the programs.

Beard at UK is titles. That’s what I care about. If he’s okay to hire at Ole Miss then who cares? Their background check obviously said good to go, so what’s different about UK?

Obviously guys like Pearl are so slimy I’d probably have reservations but Beard nah. No telling what really happened and it sounds like a 1 time thing.
Beard will never be hired by any self respecting university.

Nor should he.

The only thing 1 time about it is she called the cops one time.

But one time is enough. You can’t have that person coaching college kids.

Maybe he could coach in the pros?

But I doubt any NBA team would hire him with that baggage.

It’s not like he’s all that anyway.
 

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How could Perry and his Dad think UK mistreated him somehow.Are they delusional, once again name ANY SEC school where he would have gotten more playing time this year than he did here. He started 2 or 3 games. Zero is the number of schools he would have started ANY games in this conference. He got AMPLY opportunity to show what he could do. He was a huge defensive liability, slow,undersized and his legendary shooting acumen was in little evidence in most of his games. He obviously thinks he is an SEC calibre player yet refused to stay here and fight to prove it. If he thinks he will not have to do that at Ole Miss he truly is delusional.
Please explain where or how you know the Perrys think Travis was mistreated here at UK. I have not seen any statement saying the Perry family felt like they were mistreated. If they have not made the statement that they felt mistreated it seems like extremely poor taste to be making that statement. It seems like you or someone is putting words in their mouth that clearly is not true. Perry has not made any statement why he chose the portal. He thanked UK and coaches but certainly did NOT say he was mistreated. Poster's opinions are just that, opinions, not close to being facts. Perry leaving has not hurt our teams chances for success next season and hopefully it will help Perry get more minutes and $$. Everyone deserves the opportunity to try to improve their life. Perry wants to play, not be a cheerleader sitting on the end of the bench.
 
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bookerfan66

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Beard will never be hired by any self respecting university.

Nor should he.

The only thing 1 time about it is she called the cops one time.

But one time is enough. You can’t have that person coaching college kids.

Maybe he could coach in the pros?

But I doubt any NBA team would hire him with that baggage.

It’s not like he’s all that anyway.
Exactly. Ole Miss is trash so of course they would hire him UK has more self respect.
 

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Please explain where or how you know the Perrys think Travis was mistreated here at UK. I have not seen any statement saying the Perry family felt like they were mistreated. If they have not made the statement that they felt mistreated it seems like extremely poor taste to be making that statement. It seems like you or someone is putting words in their mouth that clearly is not true. Perry has not made any statement why he chose the portal. He thanked UK and coaches but certainly did NOT say he was mistreated. Poster's opinions are just that, opinions, not close to being facts. Perry leaving has not hurt our teams chances for success next season and hopefully it will help Perry get more minutes and $$. Everyone deserves the opportunity to try to improve their life. Perry wants to play, not be a cheerleader sitting on the end of the bench.
I must have missed it but when did he thank the coaches?
 

notFromhere

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We naturally lean on money as a motivator, and it probably is to an extent, but I do have an honest question in regards to NIL and guys on his level:

Just how much money can he reasonably fetch? Reason I’m asking is that there has to be a cap on what he’s worth and I wouldn’t think the floor and ceiling for his NIL value are only so far apart (no offense to him, of course). I can’t see a school paying hundreds of thousands, so we would be talking in the tens of thousands difference, perhaps?

Good question. Does he maybe make a little more because a team wants to weaken UKs bench a little bit? Seems strange for him to go to Ole Miss with no visits or other contacts.

Fishy that he entered the portal so late and chooses Ole Miss without visiting anyone. Did I miss that he was taking visits? Was he enticed to leave/tampered with before the deadline? Just an odd move all the way around.
 

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Beard will never be hired by any self respecting university.

Nor should he.

The only thing 1 time about it is she called the cops one time.

But one time is enough. You can’t have that person coaching college kids.

Maybe he could coach in the pros?

But I doubt any NBA team would hire him with that baggage.

It’s not like he’s all that anyway.
I've said it before, and I'll continue to say it. If all of you knew the actual story, you'd have a different viewpoint. He was in the wrong. No doubt. There is a narrative that was pushed that wasn't the entire story, or even factual to a degree.

There were two Texas system board of regents, out of nine, that refused to back down about Beard and what happened. Go look at their BOR. You're an adult that lives in the real world. I presume you can identify the two. If the other seven pushed back, it was going to be a huge public mess. Btw, those two on the Texas system BOR had two completely different agendas.
 

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Good question. Does he maybe make a little more because a team wants to weaken UKs bench a little bit? Seems strange for him to go to Ole Miss with no visits or other contacts.

Fishy that he entered the portal so late and chooses Ole Miss without visiting anyone. Did I miss that he was taking visits? Was he enticed to leave/tampered with before the deadline? Just an odd move all the way around.
It seems like a decent amount of portal guys commit without visiting the school, I know we had some who just now visited after already committing to UK. I also believe Beard was recruiting Perry out of HS.

Either way this seems like an odd fit. The Vandy chatter made more sense to me, but I still feel he should’ve got out of the SEC.
 
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"Any Kentucky high school player that has been given a chance at playing basketball for a program on the level of UK Basketball tells you he or his handler has got a loser's attitude if he runs rather than fight for playing time."

Fifr

If it was about more money, he could have negotiated and removed his name from the portal. If it was about playing time, prove you're good enough. At least he's not virtue-signalling some pathetic "thank you..... respect my decision" social media bullsht.
 
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Like I said when he entered I don’t get why so many just assumed no high major school would want him. He wasn’t going to end up at Murray state lol. Ole miss recruited him hard out of HS. Him going there isn’t a surprise.
 

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I've said it before, and I'll continue to say it. If all of you knew the actual story, you'd have a different viewpoint. He was in the wrong. No doubt. There is a narrative that was pushed that wasn't the entire story, or even factual to a degree.

There were two Texas system board of regents, out of nine, that refused to back down about Beard and what happened. Go look at their BOR. You're an adult that lives in the real world. I presume you can identify the two. If the other seven pushed back, it was going to be a huge public mess. Btw, those two on the Texas system BOR had two completely different agendas.
I’ll bite on this. Since you’re clearly willing to insinuate that he didn’t do anything that bad and was only fired because the two women on the board acted unreasonably, what is the actual story?
 

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Hence my dog crap team comment. Any team playing Perry 20 a game isn't doing anything n the sec.


I agree. They have Koren Johnson, who was out for a year at UL, but had 11.1 PPG at Washington the year before. He was playing with Sahvir Wheeler there, but is still more of a PG. Ole Miss got AJ Storr from Kansas who had a poor year, but was elite in 23/24 for Wisconsin. He brought back the Brazilian, Klafke, who is expecting a bigger role too. All in all, a pretty terrible roster. Perry will play 15-20 min, backing these guys up.

I will caveat this to say that Beard is still recruiting, and a high-level guard could see some clear opportunity there.
 

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I’ll bite on this. Since you’re clearly willing to insinuate that he didn’t do anything that bad and was only fired because the two women on the board acted unreasonably, what is the actual story?
Not the two women. ONE of the two. Remember, different agendas. Same common goal.

Two adults were drunk. They got into an argument that turned physical. One of those two adults was the aggressor. While defending himself, rather than walking away (where he was wrong) he essentially physically restrained her. Make no mistake, it was ugly. He was also wrong. But the public narrative isn't the true story.

Here's the part that baffles me. For a fanbase that has had narratives painted about Rupp, Eddie, Cal, Clyde...just off the top of my head...that we all know, to some degree, just aren't accurate...some just say "woman beater" so easily. And just trashes anyone that could think of giving the guy a job. I guess that's easier. But whatever. Hell, UK hired a known cheater (Cal). See how easy and shallow that is?
 

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Not the two women. ONE of the two. Remember, different agendas. Same common goal.

Two adults were drunk. They got into an argument that turned physical. One of those two adults was the aggressor. While defending himself, rather than walking away (where he was wrong) he essentially physically restrained her. Make no mistake, it was ugly. He was also wrong. But the public narrative isn't the true story.

Here's the part that baffles me. For a fanbase that has had narratives painted about Rupp, Eddie, Cal, Clyde...just off the top of my head...that we all know, to some degree, just aren't accurate...some just say "woman beater" so easily. And just trashes anyone that could think of giving the guy a job. I guess that's easier. But whatever. Hell, UK hired a known cheater (Cal). See how easy and shallow that is?
You actually think cheating is the same as abusing a woman?
 

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I’ll bite on this. Since you’re clearly willing to insinuate that he didn’t do anything that bad and was only fired because the two women on the board acted unreasonably, what is the actual story?
FTR...I didn't say he "didn't do anything that bad". What he did was wrong. It's not to the level that was portrayed. Why do you think it went away so quickly?

IIRC...to be fair...there was only one woman on the BOR at the time.
 

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FTR...I didn't say he "didn't do anything that bad". What he did was wrong. It's not to the level that was portrayed. Why do you think it went away so quickly?

IIRC...to be fair...there was only one woman on the BOR at the time.
Because people were paid off? Money trumps everything. Just look at what wealthy people get away with.
 

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You actually think cheating is the same as abusing a woman?
No, I don't. But I actually do think neither of those statements about either guy are factual either. You've clearly got a spot for the subject. I have no clue what it is. You clearly also lack the ability to not understand grey areas. The crazy thing about life, it's not that literal.
 

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Because people were paid off? Money trumps everything. Just look at what wealthy people get away with.
That's inaccurate. The state of Texas doesn't require the complainant to file criminal charges. They had her original statement. That's all they needed. What they didn't have was evidence of a criminal act.
 

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That's inaccurate. The state of Texas doesn't require the complainant to file criminal charges. They had her original statement. That's all they needed. What they didn't have was evidence of a criminal act.
Sure man I'm sure if the guy was some poor nobody things wouldn't have end up different.
 
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I'm not really rooting for or against him but just don't feel the SEC is the best place for him. Players are too athletic and physical for him IMO and he is really a 6 foot shooting guard and just don't see it working.
 

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Sure man I'm sure if the guy was some poor nobody things wouldn't have end up different.
Hey, I get it doesn't fit the whole hangup you have about this situation, but it's the truth. After the BOR went through with the firing, they ALL wanted charges brought. Why? So they didn't look like morons firing one of college basketball's best coaches for an incident that didn't bring criminal charges. And all of them knew Rodney Terry would fail. And fail hard. Which he did.
 

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I don’t see why anyone would pay more than $12 dollars for someone of Perry’s abilities. He brings absolutely zero to the table. He would have to pay me to play for my team.
 
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I’m not sold it was for more money.

First off, Ole Miss is spending their NIL on football. Not sure how much they spend on BBALL but I’m sure it’s not what UKBB collective is spending.

Second, whatever money they are spending on BB I’m almost certain they wouldn’t use a chunk of it on a kid to sit.

Perry as a hometown kid was going to have the NIL money and opportunities stacked up. Whether he played or not here. Not just during his career, but for life.

Oxford car dealers, pizza joints, banks, real estate and insurance groups aren’t going to give a hoot about him unless he’s a star and they won’t care much about him about a touchdown after he graduates. Again, they’re a football town.

He knows all this. He wanted more run.
 

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I’m not sold it was for more money.

First off, Ole Miss is spending their NIL on football. Not sure how much they spend on BBALL but I’m sure it’s not what UKBB collective is spending.

Second, whatever money they are spending on BB I’m almost certain they wouldn’t use a chunk of it on a kid to sit.

Perry as a hometown kid was going to have the NIL money and opportunities stacked up. Whether he played or not here. Not just during his career, but for life.

Oxford car dealers, pizza joints, banks, real estate and insurance groups aren’t going to give a hoot about him unless he’s a star and they won’t care much about him about a touchdown after he graduates. Again, they’re a football town.

He knows all this. He wanted more run.
Yeah, I think he'll play. He was FORCED to play last year. He was in a rough spot too. Out of position for one. But more importantly, he was a bad defender on a team full of average to bad defenders and lacking anything resembling a rim protector. If Perry is on the floor with three other dudes that can defend and another that can protect the rim, I can see him surviving. In a weird way, I see him as a better fit for this coming season's UK roster than last years.
 

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Yeah, I think he'll play. He was FORCED to play last year. He was in a rough spot too. Out of position for one. But more importantly, he was a bad defender on a team full of average to bad defenders and lacking anything resembling a rim protector. If Perry is on the floor with three other dudes that can defend and another that can protect the rim, I can see him surviving. In a weird way, I see him as a better fit for this coming season's UK roster than last years.
Good luck to a 6'0 shooting guard in the SEC.
 

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Good luck to a 6'0 shooting guard in the SEC.
What if their PG were 6'6"? I get what you're saying, I'm just not sure it's a complete blanket statement. I also think he could develop into a lead guard eventually. What's the point? I think there's far more to the story than just dismissing him because he's a "6'0" shooting guard".
 

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What if their PG were 6'6"? I get what you're saying, I'm just not sure it's a complete blanket statement. I also think he could develop into a lead guard eventually. What's the point? I think there's far more to the story than just dismissing him because he's a "6'0" shooting guard".
He's a terrible defender and not a good shooter at the college level. Yeah he was great in high school but let's be honest that's a whole other ballgame. I've just never seen it with him. Noah has shown flashes but just never seen it with with Perry.
 

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He's a terrible defender and not a good shooter at the college level. Yeah he was great in high school but let's be honest that's a whole other ballgame. I've just never seen it with him. Noah has shown flashes but just never seen it with with Perry.
You're ready to write off his ability to shoot the 3 based on 56 attempts? Cool if so, I personally think that's a little short-sighted.

The SEC will regress as a conference, there is zero doubting that. Perry will likely progress as a player as well. I can see a world where those two things create a scenario where he can be a serviceable piece.

FTR, I'm no Travis Perry superfan. In fact, Pope's willingness to play him last season (when not absolutely needed) drove me bonkers. I'm just not willing to dismiss someone of his talent level after his freshman season. A season in which he played with a bunch of poor defenders in what is arguably the best league ever in college basketball.
 

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You're ready to write off his ability to shoot the 3 based on 56 attempts? Cool if so, I personally think that's a little short-sighted.

The SEC will regress as a conference, there is zero doubting that. Perry will likely progress as a player as well. I can see a world where those two things create a scenario where he can be a serviceable piece.

FTR, I'm no Travis Perry superfan. In fact, Pope's willingness to play him last season (when not absolutely needed) drove me bonkers. I'm just not willing to dismiss someone of his talent level after his freshman season. A season in which he played with a bunch of poor defenders in what is arguably the best league ever in college basketball.
We will see. I just have a feeling another transfer will come for him next season. But he will have a chance to play because Beard couldn't get anyone good in the portal which was hilarious.
 

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If travis perry was from des Moines, Iowa no one would care
This cannot be stated enough.

Kentucky born players are not magical. They don’t have special powers. Travis Perry and Cassidy Rowe have dominated offseason discussions. One shot 31% from the floor, the other recorded two of the worst statistical shooting seasons in program history. Yet, we are acting like Perry is the new Chris Lofton and the women’s coach ran off Candace Parker.

I don’t get it.
 
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sheesh the Chris Beard fans are out today.

I for one, am happy with Pope. I hope to god Beard stays far away from this program. Can't believe Perry would want to play for this dude. But I'm guessing not many other p5 teams came calling
 
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Dude you sound like you are an Ole Miss fan.
Dude. You sound like a UK fan that has some pretty thick blue goggles on.

I'm just realistic. I'm a UK fan. I'm also a big Chris Beard fan who is reasonably good friends with one of his former colleagues. That's it.

Did they not kick our *** last year? (Spoiler, they did)

Beard and Pope have been college HC's for about the same amount of time. You make your own inferences from there.
 

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Not the two women. ONE of the two. Remember, different agendas. Same common goal.

Two adults were drunk. They got into an argument that turned physical. One of those two adults was the aggressor. While defending himself, rather than walking away (where he was wrong) he essentially physically restrained her. Make no mistake, it was ugly. He was also wrong. But the public narrative isn't the true story.

Here's the part that baffles me. For a fanbase that has had narratives painted about Rupp, Eddie, Cal, Clyde...just off the top of my head...that we all know, to some degree, just aren't accurate...some just say "woman beater" so easily. And just trashes anyone that could think of giving the guy a job. I guess that's easier. But whatever. Hell, UK hired a known cheater (Cal). See how easy and shallow that is?


He defended himself by choking and biting her, cuts on her face, throwing her around. No big deal.
 
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This cannot be stated enough.

Kentucky born players are not magical. They don’t have special powers. Travis Perry and Cassidy Rowe have dominated offseason discussions. One shot 31% from the floor, the other recorded two of the worst statistical shooting seasons in program history. Yet, we are acting like Perry is the new Chris Lofton and the women’s coach ran off Candace Parker.

I don’t get it.
There has always been a Kentucky native player and major contributor too those 8 hanging from rupps rafters . That would be my guess now ask yourself again what don't you get ?
 
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