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So ESPN is reporting today that Arkansas students and fans are going to have a big rally tonight on campus in support of Bobby. My question is, What are they supporting? What is wrong with these people? How have our priorities gotten so out of whack that these people are supporting this scum bag? I guess bias is real! Because from and outside unbiased view, there is no way this guy should keep his job. <div>
</div><div>Also, how about a hand for the Arkansas fans that ESPN interviewed about the Petrino. Where do they find these clowns? The looked like Carny Folk on Sportscenter.</div>
 

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So ESPN is reporting today that Arkansas students and fans are going to have a big rally tonight on campus in support of Bobby. My question is, What are they supporting? What is wrong with these people? How have our priorities gotten so out of whack that these people are supporting this scum bag? I guess bias is real! Because from and outside unbiased view, there is no way this guy should keep his job. <div>
</div><div>Also, how about a hand for the Arkansas fans that ESPN interviewed about the Petrino. Where do they find these clowns? The looked like Carny Folk on Sportscenter.</div>
 

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So ESPN is reporting today that Arkansas students and fans are going to have a big rally tonight on campus in support of Bobby. My question is, What are they supporting? What is wrong with these people? How have our priorities gotten so out of whack that these people are supporting this scum bag? I guess bias is real! Because from and outside unbiased view, there is no way this guy should keep his job. <div>
</div><div>Also, how about a hand for the Arkansas fans that ESPN interviewed about the Petrino. Where do they find these clowns? The looked like Carny Folk on Sportscenter.</div>
 

drt7891

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They were ready to show him the door, even though they had won the SECW the year before he left. If winning is the only thing that matters, Nutt won, too... he only had 2 losing seasons while he was at Arky... why call for his head for "texting a friend," and want Petrino to stick around for having sex with a coworker? That kind of **** could get you fired anywhere else... The precedent has been set.
 

maroonmania

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so seriously why should a bunch of students care who their HC is sleeping with if he's winning games? Its just where society is now.
 

57stratdawg

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if something like this happened at MSU. If Mullen had taken us to a BCS game and had us a preseason top 10, I would do everything in my power to make sure he was retained.
 

drt7891

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merely a year before he left. What's the difference between Nutt and Petrino?

ETA: I believe they were ranked as high as 15 to begin 2007 when they barely lost @Bama? As a matter of fact, Petrino hasn't come close to beating Alabama yet.
 

patdog

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[b said:
drt7891[/b]]That kind of **** could get you fired anywhere else... The precedent has been set.
I would LOVE tobe the next lawyerwhose client sues theUniversity of Arkansas for sexual harassment if they just give Petrino aslap on the wrist. I think I'd start negotiations by saing just handme a signed blank check. I'll fill it out.
 

GloryDawg

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This country elected Bill Clinton twice and he was a scum bag as well. Yes it has gone to hell but when it comes to Presidental elections it's about the pocket book and when it comes to college football it's about winning and in both cases that is all that matters. Hell if Dubose had given Alabama a NC he would not have been fired. That's society now. I don't have to like but it is what it is.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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.. adultery used to be a serious sin in this part of the country. Those days are gone.

Now if you get caught committing adultery, people actually protest FOR you, not AGAINST you.
 

Coach34

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Hell, you would have to fire 1/2 of the male population- and then fire 1/2 of the female population as well (women cheat just as much these days)

Her being a co-worker brings up some issues- but if it's consensual, then it's up to the head of the department to decide what to do

Too much fuss over all this
 

RocketDawg

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It's not illegal to have an affair ... it's between the parties involved and their spouses, if there are any. It's fine if people object to their head coach doing such a thing from a morality standpoint, but it's still not illegal, and everybody doesn't have the same opinion on such things.<div>
</div><div>The way I see it, where he committed a terminal offense was in hiring the young woman, using state funds, when he had an affair ongoing with her. Basically, he was letting the state pay for housing his little sex toy. That alone should be reason for termination.</div><div>
</div><div>He was very stupid doing it so openly, if he was going to do it at all. Riding a motorcycle doesn't provide much privacy, and he is well known throughout the state. And riding a motorcycle is much more dangerous than driving a car, especially if alcohol is involved.</div><div>
</div><div>Lying to his boss, and possibly the police, is likely illegal (certainly lying to the police is) but doing it and getting away scot free has precedence at the highest level: Bill Clinton.</div><div>
</div><div>So, in my opinion, he should be fired, not for having an affair but for having the gaul to have the state hire her and put her under his "supervision".</div><div>
</div><div>If Mullen did the same thing, would I want him fired? In a way, yes, but practically, no. I'd lose a lot of respect for him but that's about it. Now if he hired his 'sweetie' using MSU funds I'd definitely want him fired. If the affair had started after she'd been on the job for a while, it would be different ... those things happen.</div><div>
</div><div>Seems I read somewhere if he did anything to bring discredit to the University, he could be fired ... so really, the ball is in UArk's court as to whether they want to send him packing or not.
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drt7891

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If it was consensual, what was the issue there?

Let me talk a lady I work with into sex and let my boss find out... I bet my boss wouldn't tell me "People are just making a big deal about it... no reason to make a fuss," even if it was consensual. It's not just "some issues," it's a HUGE issue.
 

57stratdawg

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I don't remember Nutt in a BCS bowl game. Plus, Nutt had already started wearing some Arky fans when the Springdale crew (Malzahn, Damien Williams, and Mustain) all left. Then, they didn't win the SEC with 3 NFL players in the backfield.

I'm honestly not sure what you're asking me.
 

patdog

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She wasn't a co-worker. He hired her. He was her boss. He doesn't deserve to be fired for screwing some hot 25-year old. And he won't be fired for that. If he is fired, it will be for opening the university up to an open and shut case of sexual harassment. I don't think for a second that he sexually harassed that *****, but she'd win the case in any courtin the country if she claimed he did. If he does get fired it will be for being a huge idiot, not for screwing a girl.</p>
 

maroonmania

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probably 95% or more of the college students protesting FOR him are all fornicating anyway which from a religious biblical viewpoint is just as much sinful as adultery. So at least they aren't being hypocrites.
 

maroonmania

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its that issue that might be his downfall. If he hadn't made himself his boss then he would probably be in good shape on this.
 

drt7891

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I'm just arguing the mere precedence that the hatred for Nutt started with the allegations of text-gate... although nothing was ever confirmed. Arky fans ASSUMED he was texting her for sex, but aGAIN, no one knows for sure. After that, though, Nutt's popularity sank tremendously and people wanted him gone. Then, after the 2007 season, he lost some of his staff. People were looking for all kind of excuses to get rid of him.

My problem is after they called for his head after text-gate, why the hell are people saying adultery is just "no big deal," and are in fact, SUPPORTING Petrino? What's the difference? Why support a guy who is sleeping with a woman he hired and supervises, took her for a motorcycle ride intoxicated and wrecked it, and in turn, fans are supporting him while the coach just before him was on the chopping block for texting someone and still don't know what the hell they were texting about?

I'm questioning, why compare Petrino to Mullen and instead, compare him to Nutt, the coach he succeeded?
 

maroonmania

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for lying to a grand jury. As far as I know Petrino hasn't been questioned under oath yet on this.
 

Coach34

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Depends on the job. People get caught having affairs all the time and keep their jobs- but usually one of them is transferred to a new department.

Plus, you can't really compare coaching college football to a normal job. Different worlds
 

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And even if it doesn't hurt his employer this time around, simply having the guy around is a liability. If he screws up a second time, the University could be in a world of hurt...
 

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Nutt portrays as the Right Reverend doing it right

Petrino is one dirty sob, win at all cost ...who gives a **** ...people actually expect him to lie
 

futaba.79

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so Ark definitely has a problem. You simply can't hire your side woman in the public sector. There is really nothing Ark can do but fire Petrino and settle with the girl. But it wouldn't surprise me if the only thing that happens is the girl gets a check. Of course, from that point forward, potentially a lot of women at Ark get checks. The university will no longer have any credibility, so frivolous complaints will mean $$$.
 

dawgstudent

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what about the other people that interviewed for the football position? Do they have grounds for suit considering their resumes might not have been riddled with extra benefits?
 

57stratdawg

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Because this seems like the classic case of Quid Pro Quo. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if she could sue even though she's a consistenting adult.
 

futaba.79

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I have no info, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was some sort of administrative hire and proper procedure was ignored.
 

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Right now, I doubt the decision is even in the hands of the AD or President. The lawyers are trying to figure a way around the inevitable. When they've exhausted all realistic outcomes of:

1. What to do with the girl.
2. What to do with her fiance.
3. What happens the next time a chemistry professor is banging his lab assistant.

They'll recommend to the University that Petrino hit the bricks.
 

RocketDawg

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but not convicted. Stressful, yes ... but no job-related implications (but I think he may have been disbarred either then or at another time).<div>
</div><div>And he was impeached for lying to the grand jury, not for diddling Monica in the Oval Office nor for lying to the American public.</div>
 

RocketDawg

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She knew exactly what she was doing, was consenting, and most likely knew what was expected if she was hired. Who knows ... she may have even suggested he hire her ... or may have bribed him into hiring her to keep her quiet (of course, I have no reason to think that, but it seems logical). She's no innocent little flower in this whole thing.<div>
</div><div>It would be a much bigger problem for Petrino though if he made her employment conditional on a relationship. That's sexual harassment, and she would have a case. Otherwise, I don't think she has a leg to stand on as far as suing the University goes. Or him either for that matter. She was not a minor.</div><div>
</div><div>I think the idiot would come off clean if he hadn't used state funds to fund his philandering.</div>