Petrino's Redemption U Hosting Dismissed Alabama Lineman

[jauk11]

Mark Jurich (UofL grad and former baseball star) is in charge of fundraising for the football stadium expansion.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=mark+jurich+picture&src=IE-TopResult&FORM=IETR02&conversationid=

A UL grad that was on an athletic scholarship?

Does he have any real qualifications for the job?

 

[sluggercatfan]

A lot of truth in your post, and I don't like some of the ridiculous things our program has done to remain "squeaky clean". The whole administration has been paranoid since the NCAA has torn down both of our major programs, not noticing that the NCAA is a joke------and Transfer U is a major example of that, ie hurtt and about another dozen things.

And truthfully I would rather lose some than win like they are doing, and you never know when another Minardi Hall or PED will explode on the scene, they are living on the edge with a lot of these third and fourth chances. Which includes their coaches.

AND I do think we are on the verge of winning the right way, all we ever really needed was to quit being just a basketball school. It took mitch a long time to acknowledge what the "money cow" was and to start supporting it with more than the bare minimum-------which cost us millions.

It is not all MB, but his bosses above him as well and it did not take a long time. When the fans revolted in the JP regime and refused to buy tickets they knew their goose was cooked and enough fans said that enough is enough...to their credit they have stepped up big time and we will shortly have facilities that are as good as anywhere and now it is up to the coaches to prove they are sec caliber when they are between the lines on Sat...no more excuses

 

[sluggercatfan]

I agree that is what should be done but don't you think it's concerning that you have to do this with a lot of players?

My question would be... Do you honestly believe they go through all that process before they decide to take a player? If you do i have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale

 

[JStaff21]

When you choose to transfer to UofL

 

[Pervis_Griffith]

A UL grad that was on an athletic scholarship?

Does he have any real qualifications for the job?

Not that this answer will mean anything to you ... but he started out at an entry level position in the athletic department, and has steadily worked his way to the position he holds now. But ... I'm sure he didn't do anything at all, while in those entry level positions. And really doesn't do anything now ... because, ya know .. nepotism.

[roll]

 

[bigbluegrog]

Not that this answer will mean anything to you ... but he started out at an entry level position in the athletic department, and has steadily worked his way to the position he holds now. But ... I'm sure he didn't do anything at all, while in those entry level positions. And really doesn't do anything now ... because, ya know .. nepotism.

[roll]

Pitino's, Petrino's, Jurich's......hard not to allow nepotism when everyone has dirt on each other.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Concerning? Certainly. We are taking a chance. As someone else mentioned, taking the kid from FT Highlands who washed out of Auburn turned out bad, as did taking Rod Council (of Uzi fame) about a decade earlier. Willie Williams (the Miami transfer, not the JC transfer) turned out to be a bad choice, as well. I was never a Michael Dyer fan, either, though we never heard anything bad about him until he skipped out on school after his final game in 2014.

However, Robert Clark and Gerald Christian (transfers from Florida) turned out to be good pickups. In Christian's case, we not only got him, but by taking him we also got his brother Geron Christian, who will be starting at left tackle for us this year. James Sample, the player who was kicked out of Washington, also was a positive - he's now playing for the Jacksonville Jaguars. So far, Devonte Fields, Josh Harvey-Clemons, Jaquay Savage, and Shaq Wiggins have also worked out well.

Until we are re-stocking each year with 4 and 5 star players, improving the roster in this way is what it is going to take to have a chance to beat FSU and Clemson. It's one of the reasons why I have been pretty vocal on the Collision Course board about the mediocre rankings of our recruiting classes under Petrino the past two years.

I don't know anything about anyone on Louisville's staff other than Petrino and Grantham. Petrino isn't a good recruiter, he couldn't recruit at Arkansas, now he is a heck of an offensive mind, if he were only a decent recruiter he would be a serious challenge to FSU and CU every year. Grantham wasn't a good recruiter for us, he singled out about 13-14 kids and recruited them. If they all signed with us that would have been great, but very few did, we threw out offers in December to kids who were borderline P5 level to get numbers. But he was good at targeting 1 or 2 guys and going after them, but overall our defensive talent was way down when he left. 8-10 defensive players left the program when Pruitt arrived, all recruited under Grantham, of course some leave with coaching changes, Wiggins being one, good move on his part.

But Louisville will never recruit at the level of Clemson and FSU as long as no coaching changes take place, he was a WR coach and recruiting coordinator berfore being named head coach. Dabo is a terrible football coach but smart enough to hire elite coordinators and let them coach while he leads cheers, but he is an elite recruiter, on the level of Saban. ACC was a little down last year, Clemson caught lightening in a bottle with Watson, when he is gone Clemson is back to a 3 loss team most seasons. FSU has Florida A&M across the street, plus being in the state of Florida makes it hard for anyone not to be a good/great recruiter.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

Amazing how well known UL is to ALL bad boys.

 

[pikespeak1]

Trying to keep up with us???:joy::joy: Theyve kicked our *** 5 years in a row. Good to know they are trying to keep up with us.

How about you stick it up your assistbyhawkins.

 

[screwduke]

They keep adding talent any way they can trying to keep up with us

Troll.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

Whatever. UofLs criminal congaline keeps dancing along.

They suck.

 

[Poetax]

I'm not really sure why you wouldn't bring someone like this in for a visit and learn first hand why he was dismissed from Alabama. You hear his version of it, then talk to the coaches at Alabama to learn their version. You learn something about his character in that process. Then once you know all of the facts, you decide whether he's worth offering a scholarship to....

Is it true that the post offices don't put up the pics of the Top Most Wanted anymore. They put them in the football offices in Louisville, is that so?

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

I'm not really sure why you wouldn't bring someone like this in for a visit and learn first hand why he was dismissed from Alabama. You hear his version of it, then talk to the coaches at Alabama to learn their version. You learn something about his character in that process. Then once you know all of the facts, you decide whether he's worth offering a scholarship to....

This seems totally disingenuous. You don't get kicked out of a place like alabama (that worships football) unless it's for good reason. As a UL fan, are you at all concerned about your school's reputation? I understand that every now and then it might be prudent to give a kid a second chance, but this has now become one of your primary recruiting strategies...

 

[shutzhund]

Leaving the high ground out of the equation whatever and however UL's athletic dept is being run the results are impressive. Respectability? Could use a lot of upgrading.

 

[Cats78]

UL has an AD that always wants to win. Our AD is on a mission trip.

As far as Barnhart, I could take it or leave it. Jurich has done some nice things, but between his bball program going on probation, countless scandals, corruption and lawsuits, I'm not sure he is the shining example of a perfect AD, but whatever.

BTW... Aren't you the idiot that said the ONLY THING Petrino did was have an affair? Yep, that was you. By the way, you got a UofL fan and someone named "TrollCat" to like your post. Says a lot. We'll take what you say with a grain of salt.

 

[UKRob 73]

BTW... Aren't you the idiot that said the ONLY THING Petrino did was have an affair? Yep, that was you. .

Wrong idiot. I'm the idiot that did your mom

 

[Cats78]

Wrong idiot. I'm the idiot that did your mom

LOL, that's hilarious! Are you 12 years old AND an idiot??

Come on, tell us more about Bobby Petrino and his one little mistake...

Guess I had the right Idiot:

I'm not saying that at all. I'm asking why morals are so important yet winning isn't?
Mitch has done horrible with football. Yet some of you give him a pass because he is "ethical" and "moral".
He is the ATHLETIC director, winning should be more important to some of you.

And Bobby Petrino had an affair, that's it. If Calipari got caught tomorrow having an affair, would you all campaign for his dismissal?

249 UKRob 73, May 13, 2016

 

[Pike 96]

This seems totally disingenuous. You don't get kicked out of a place like alabama (that worships football) unless it's for good reason. As a UL fan, are you at all concerned about your school's reputation? I understand that every now and then it might be prudent to give a kid a second chance, but this has now become one of your primary recruiting strategies...

Immediately targeting highly recruited players that get kicked out of other schools is ABSOLUTELY a recruiting strategy by UL. It's win at all cost and the rest is a distant second. It's comical and very pathetic that as soon as you hear of a good player being dismissed you almost immediately hear about UL transfer interest. I wonder which coach has the responsibility of monitoring the waiver wire? It must be assigned just like a recruiting region.
Pushup and other UL fans readily accept it as a core strategy and don't give a damn why the kid was arrested and/or booted. It always comes back to the "trust the coaches and Tom" mantra.
And the getting the kids side of it and then gathering the facts ******** is just self serving window dressing. Just like with Fields...who it was widely reported punched his ex girlfriend and put a gun in her face and said he should "blast" her. I'm sure they just asked what he did..he confirmed he made some mistakes...but he'd never do it again...and it's all good. Compound that with the fact you can smoke pot if you are on that team to your hearts content with no repurcussions and no you are all good with a vast number of the transfers. THEN the fans can talk about what model citizens the players had become. Because they don't test worth a crap for drugs. I know a guy that played for Petrino right before he left. He said almost all of the team smoked pot on a regular basis. But if you tested positive they would just run you. Then Krag came in with a 3 strike and out policy...surprise. ...a year later 30 guys were gone.
That program, Petrino, and Jurichs lack of any type of ethics makes me wish nothing but bad things upon them.

 

[jauk11]

Not that this answer will mean anything to you ... but he started out at an entry level position in the athletic department, and has steadily worked his way to the position he holds now. But ... I'm sure he didn't do anything at all, while in those entry level positions. And really doesn't do anything now ... because, ya know .. nepotism.

[roll]

You have to admit it could easily be either one, what kind of proof do you have that it is his brilliance? Has he bypassed several other good candidates in his rise up the ladder? Do you have any examples of his "brilliance" in those entry level positions, most entry level personnel don't get a chance to show their brilliance------and even if they do, their boss gets the credit.

Right, I know, just a coincidence that the big boss is his dad.

 

[Soupbean]

Yep ^^^ it's selling your soul for sure. Which wouldn't matter as much if other people didn't notice, but I think the rest of the country and even the media have taken notice of that fact. And with the Baylor thing about to explode light on this issue it may make it even more evident.

 

[jauk11]

Immediately targeting highly recruited players that get kicked out of other schools is ABSOLUTELY a recruiting strategy by UL. It's win at all cost and the rest is a distant second. It's comical and very pathetic that as soon as you hear of a good player being dismissed you almost immediately hear about UL transfer interest. I wonder which coach has the responsibility of monitoring the waiver wire? It must be assigned just like a recruiting region.
Pushup and other UL fans readily accept it as a core strategy and don't give a damn why the kid was arrested and/or booted. It always comes back to the "trust the coaches and Tom" mantra.
And the getting the kids side of it and then gathering the facts ******** is just self serving window dressing. Just like with Fields...who it was widely reported punched his ex girlfriend and put a gun in her face and said he should "blast" her. I'm sure they just asked what he did..he confirmed he made some mistakes...but he'd never do it again...and it's all good. Compound that with the fact you can smoke pot if you are on that team to your hearts content with no repurcussions and no you are all good with a vast number of the transfers. THEN the fans can talk about what model citizens the players had become. Because they don't test worth a crap for drugs. I know a guy that played for Petrino right before he left. He said almost all of the team smoked pot on a regular basis. But if you tested positive they would just run you. Then Krag came in with a 3 strike and out policy...surprise. ...a year later 30 guys were gone.
That program, Petrino, and Jurichs lack of any type of ethics makes me wish nothing but bad things upon them.

Excellent point about 30 players being gone when Krag came on board------and that probably doesn't count a dozen or two that either lucked out on tests or prized their scholarship enough to give it up for a while. But what that proves is that it is possible to be a big time user and stay at U------with the "right" coach. And he got a HALF MILLION for his great work in academics, LOL.

But you are way off in one statement, no coach is in charge of monitoring the waiver wire, that is much too important to their program, jurich takes care of that himself.

 

[tmuck]

It's utterly amazing that the UL troll dorkmeister hasn't been banned after all these years.

 

[Tskware]

Concerning? Certainly. We are taking a chance. As someone else mentioned, taking the kid from FT Highlands who washed out of Auburn turned out bad, as did taking Rod Council (of Uzi fame) about a decade earlier. Willie Williams (the Miami transfer, not the JC transfer) turned out to be a bad choice, as well. I was never a Michael Dyer fan, either, though we never heard anything bad about him until he skipped out on school after his final game in 2014.

However, Robert Clark and Gerald Christian (transfers from Florida) turned out to be good pickups. In Christian's case, we not only got him, but by taking him we also got his brother Geron Christian, who will be starting at left tackle for us this year. James Sample, the player who was kicked out of Washington, also was a positive - he's now playing for the Jacksonville Jaguars. So far, Devonte Fields, Josh Harvey-Clemons, Jaquay Savage, and Shaq Wiggins have also worked out well.

Until we are re-stocking each year with 4 and 5 star players, improving the roster in this way is what it is going to take to have a chance to beat FSU and Clemson. It's one of the reasons why I have been pretty vocal on the Collision Course board about the mediocre rankings of our recruiting classes under Petrino the past two years.

Well, I will give you credit for the most honest post of the day. Just win baby, no matter how many miscreants are on the team, and no matter what kind of low life scum bag POS is the head coach. As for me, I would have a hard time getting really fired up to pull for a crew of gang members, but hey, this is America, it is a free country and all . . .

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

Not that this answer will mean anything to you ... but he started out at an entry level position in the athletic department, and has steadily worked his way to the position he holds now. But ... I'm sure he didn't do anything at all, while in those entry level positions. And really doesn't do anything now ... because, ya know .. nepotism.

[roll]

Ooooh Pervis roast you, 'n ****.

....marinated zucchini.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Wrong idiot. I'm the idiot that did your mom

Proud moments on this board.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Immediately targeting highly recruited players that get kicked out of other schools is ABSOLUTELY a recruiting strategy by UL. It's win at all cost and the rest is a distant second. It's comical and very pathetic that as soon as you hear of a good player being dismissed you almost immediately hear about UL transfer interest. I wonder which coach has the responsibility of monitoring the waiver wire? It must be assigned just like a recruiting region.
Pushup and other UL fans readily accept it as a core strategy and don't give a damn why the kid was arrested and/or booted. It always comes back to the "trust the coaches and Tom" mantra.
And the getting the kids side of it and then gathering the facts ******** is just self serving window dressing. Just like with Fields...who it was widely reported punched his ex girlfriend and put a gun in her face and said he should "blast" her. I'm sure they just asked what he did..he confirmed he made some mistakes...but he'd never do it again...and it's all good. Compound that with the fact you can smoke pot if you are on that team to your hearts content with no repurcussions and no you are all good with a vast number of the transfers. THEN the fans can talk about what model citizens the players had become. Because they don't test worth a crap for drugs. I know a guy that played for Petrino right before he left. He said almost all of the team smoked pot on a regular basis. But if you tested positive they would just run you. Then Krag came in with a 3 strike and out policy...surprise. ...a year later 30 guys were gone.
That program, Petrino, and Jurichs lack of any type of ethics makes me wish nothing but bad things upon them.

It is a strategy. No one can debate that.

 

[PushupMan]

This seems totally disingenuous. You don't get kicked out of a place like alabama (that worships football) unless it's for good reason. As a UL fan, are you at all concerned about your school's reputation? I understand that every now and then it might be prudent to give a kid a second chance, but this has now become one of your primary recruiting strategies...

One man's disingenuous is another mans' absolute and honest truth....

As far as what he did to get dismissed, my first thought was that he came in as a JC player and failed to break into the two-deep immediately. Then Alabama found an excuse (failed a physical?, skipped a class? back-talked a coach? broke curfew? failed to show up for voluntary workouts?) to cut him in order to make room for the 5 OLs it signed in the 2016 recruiting class (including 2 rivals 5 stars).

The above seems just as likely to me as him being dismissed for some "good reason".

And to answer your question, I am concerned about our reputation every day. However, I'm not so concerned about winning the popularity contest among UK fans.

 

[Dallas-Wild]

One man's disingenuous is another mans' absolute and honest truth....

As far as what he did to get dismissed, my first thought was that he came in as a JC player and failed to break into the two-deep immediately. Then Alabama found an excuse (failed a physical?, skipped a class? back-talked a coach? broke curfew? failed to show up for voluntary workouts?) to cut him in order to make room for the 5 OLs it signed in the 2016 recruiting class (including 2 rivals 5 stars).

The above seems just as likely to me as him being dismissed for some "good reason".

And to answer your question, I am concerned about our reputation every day. However, I'm not so concerned about winning the popularity contest among UK fans.

However, I'm not so concerned about winning the popularity contest among UK fans.....then why are you here defending it?

 

[tmuck]

Even UL fans know dork is a UL Troll posing as a UK fan, but somehow our Mods can't figure it out.

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Posted: Today 12:08 AM

Re: Pure Gold, UK message board cries about Bama recruit
I have read this guy's posts before. I seriously think he is a Louisville fan that is trolling them. If he is he is brilliant.

LordChewie wrote:

They keep adding talent any way they can trying to keep up with us

dorkmeister,Yesterday at 10:04 AM

We are trying to keep up with them? Where has he been?

 

[PushupMan]

However, I'm not so concerned about winning the popularity contest among UK fans.....then why are you here defending it?

Because I'm over here having a discussion with fellow college football fans at a time of year when there's very little else to talk about.

Just attempting (respectfully) to represent a UofL fan's point of view, knowing full well that my opinion won't change any diehard UK fan's opinion of UofL athletics.

 

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Posted: Today 4:25 AM

Re: Pure Gold, UK message board cries about Bama recruit
MikesMarbles wrot

LordChewie wrote:

They keep adding talent any way they can trying to keep up with us

dorkmeister, Yesterday at 10:04 AM

We are trying to keep up with them? Where has he been?

I've seen his posts for years. He is a master troll of the highest order. Amazing that they haven't axed him in all this time.

He hovers like a ninja on that line. I'm still not 100% sure the guy isn't a uk fan, that is what makes him so good.
It is harder to do than one would think, I must admit I trolled them once but I only made it a few months before I got banned...lol. The subtle troll like Dork is an artform. What really sucked about my uk troll account is that I continued to troll them from the UofL board and got banned because the mods thought I was just another stupid uk fan...lol..I miss being homerblue

 

[Dallas-Wild]

Because I'm over here having a discussion with fellow college football fans at a time of year when there's very little else to talk about.

Just attempting (respectfully) to represent a UofL fan's point of view, knowing full well that my opinion won't change any diehard UK fan's opinion of UofL athletics.

You are respectful no doubt....and I respect that as well.

When your opinion is correct I promise we will agree [cheers]

One thing that bothers many here is we can't do that on your site....the thin skinned wussie steelers bans ...he uses his interpretation as an excuse. Thats why that site is slow and boring.

 

[PushupMan]

You are respectful no doubt....and I respect that as well.

When your opinion is correct I promise we will agree [cheers]

One thing that bothers many here is we can't do that on your site....the thin skinned wussie steelers bans ...he uses his interpretation as an excuse. Thats why that site is slow and boring.

I leave the moderating to the moderators ... but I will say that I do enjoy open UofL board more when we get a chance to discuss sports with rival fans.

Getting back to my original point ... I don't understand why, if you have an open scholarship for an offensive lineman, you wouldn't bring this guy in for a visit to see if he is a good fit for your team.

 

[jauk11]

Wrong idiot. I'm the idiot that did your mom

Confession is good for the soul.

Too bad UL doesn't know anything about that.

 

[jauk11]

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Posted: Today 4:25 AM

Re: Pure Gold, UK message board cries about Bama recruit
MikesMarbles wrot

LordChewie wrote:

They keep adding talent any way they can trying to keep up with us

dorkmeister, Yesterday at 10:04 AM

We are trying to keep up with them? Where has he been?

I've seen his posts for years. He is a master troll of the highest order. Amazing that they haven't axed him in all this time.

He hovers like a ninja on that line. I'm still not 100% sure the guy isn't a uk fan, that is what makes him so good.
It is harder to do than one would think, I must admit I trolled them once but I only made it a few months before I got banned...lol. The subtle troll like Dork is an artform. What really sucked about my uk troll account is that I continued to troll them from the UofL board and got banned because the mods thought I was just another stupid uk fan...lol..I miss being homerblue

Congratulations, you got a like from Steelers.

I'm not at all sure about Dorkmeister, I think he might either be very young or delusional.

You offer quite a bit more evidence though, but congratulations, being a troll is sometimes an art form.

Was that a confession?

 

[PushupMan]

Getting back to my original point ... I don't understand why, if you have an open scholarship for an offensive lineman, you wouldn't bring this guy in for a visit to see if he is a good fit for your team.

So ... why doesn't UK do a lot more of this? Specifically with regards to this player, why isn't UK trying to bring him in and see whether he deserves a scholarship to play for UK? It seems to me that the UK offensive line could use a quality veteran player - for depth if not for anything else.

I am not a UK fan (obviously!), but I am also not so blindly hateful of UK that my motto is "UofL is my favorite school and whoever UK is playing that day is my second favorite school". I would like to see UK win a lot more games in football than they do. Being the fan of a program is supposed to be fun, and losing is not a lot of fun - whether you own the moral high ground or not.

 

[HedleyLamarr]

Were you really Homerblue tmuck? That was some of the most brilliant stuff ever seen on a board. Everybody thought he was a Card fan pretending to be an ignorant UK fan. Just brilliant!

 

[Michigan Fan]

At this point I would be surprised if Charles Baldwin-(Alabama Transfer) ends up at Louisville...

 

[Soupbean]

It is a strategy. No one can debate that.

Yep . . . They already have pre-written press releases with the phrase "we just believe every kid deserves a second chance" with Jurich's signature presigned on them.

I can see them stacked up in the corner and him yelling to his administrative assistant, "Marge we need another L1C4-XCON form!"

 

[jauk11]

At this point I would be surprised if Charles Baldwin-(Alabama Transfer) ends up at Louisville...

Then you have probably been surprised a lot these last few years.