PGA Championship
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Seems like a big anomaly with what we all thought going in. We expected the usual suspects to play well, we expected big hitters. Hasn't happened yet. The cream will probably rise.
You had Paul McGinley saying its a big hitters park and you had Brandel saying it opened it up for more players.
You had Paul McGinley saying its a big hitters park and you had Brandel saying it opened it up for more players.
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Luke Donald avg. 284 yesterday....well back in the stats, and only hit 50% GIR, but led the field w/ only 22 putts.
Rory hit 4/14 FIR, 11/18 GIR, and butchered it w/ the putter to the tune of 31 putts.
JT avg 319 and hit 4 FIR, and 4 GIR....saved his round w/ 23 putts.
The course is set up for any type of player.
Rory hit 4/14 FIR, 11/18 GIR, and butchered it w/ the putter to the tune of 31 putts.
JT avg 319 and hit 4 FIR, and 4 GIR....saved his round w/ 23 putts.
The course is set up for any type of player.
Dustin Johnson really having a big tournament 
Honestly, does he even practice any more?
Honestly, does he even practice any more?
Dustin Johnson really having a big tournament
Honestly, does he even practice any more?
He sold his soul and isn't even a threat anymore. Counting the Masters this year, he's MC in 4 of the last 9 majors, w/ only one finish better than 31st (T10 in the '23 US Open)
Golfs #1,2,3 ranked players playing in the same group. All 3 doubled #16. Scheffler was dead center of the fairway after a 322 yard drive. Xander was right beside him after a 323 yard drive. Both hit in the water because mud was on the ball. DEAD CENTER OF THE FAIRWAY. Should not happen, maybe they should have aimed at the rough. Rory, did NOT land in the fairway.
I do not like the relief when a guy is in the rough behind a TV tower or grandstands, and some how gets relief and is out of the rough, or betters his shot greatly, but I do feel they should be able to lift, clean, and then put the ball back exactly where it was if in the fairway. JMO, I understand "play it as it lies", but cleaning a muddy ball in the fairway and putting it back in the same spot is not asking too much.
My opinion, say a player is in thick rough but is by a sprinkler head, he should not get more than a foot relief and the ball SHOULD be placed back down in the rough away from the sprinkler head. To me, that is a lot more of an advantage than simply cleaning mud off a ball in the fairway as mud should not be in the fairway.
I do not like the relief when a guy is in the rough behind a TV tower or grandstands, and some how gets relief and is out of the rough, or betters his shot greatly, but I do feel they should be able to lift, clean, and then put the ball back exactly where it was if in the fairway. JMO, I understand "play it as it lies", but cleaning a muddy ball in the fairway and putting it back in the same spot is not asking too much.
My opinion, say a player is in thick rough but is by a sprinkler head, he should not get more than a foot relief and the ball SHOULD be placed back down in the rough away from the sprinkler head. To me, that is a lot more of an advantage than simply cleaning mud off a ball in the fairway as mud should not be in the fairway.
It's not surprising. Dude has always been lazy and for a brief period of time got motivated and brought his full talent to the course. Is over 40, rich, and does not give an ish anymore. Makes no sense to me why someone of his caliber would embarrass himself and shoot the scores he does now simply because he does not want to put the work into it but that is just me.Dustin Johnson really having a big tournament
Honestly, does he even practice any more?
There were more than likely other players who played "mud balls", not just those w/ bad results. Unless the conditions are generally poor, you aren't going to see lift/clean/place in any event, nor should you. Nowhere does it say the fairway should have "perfect" lies.
You see more breaks (good or bad) when the weather is iffy at tournaments and players draw the wrong end of the Thur/Fri starting times, but that is accepted as luck of the draw (unless you are Sergio)
Scottie needs to quit whining on this one.
Is it just me, or are they playing extra loud bird sounds for the telecast?
No it doesn't say a fairway should have perfect lies. You are for once right. BUT, a PGA major championship course fairway should not penalize a player for a perfect drive. The whole ideal is to drive the ball in the fairway. When you accomplish that, you shouldn't have to worry about a cake of mud on your ball.
Now if it is Goat Ranch Hollow or something like that, maybe a fairway would have some irregular lies, clover leaves, rocks, and even mud, but not a GD PGA major course. Oh, and Scheffler is one of the quietist, least complainers on tour, the fact he spoke up, I will tend to side with the pro and #1 player over the hack poster and golfer (YOU). By the way, he was not the only one who voiced concern. If it is play it as it lies, hit off or near sprinkler heads or grandstands if you have a terrible shot way off course and your ball is behind a grandstand. A 50 yard wayward tee shot should not get relief and IMPROVED lie over cleaning the ball and putting it right back where it was with NO relief/ lie gained in a fairway.
It rained over FIVE inches of rain before the tournament started, being able to clean mud off your ball IN THE FAIRWAY should have been allowed. Once again, you are dead wrong. If you can't lift, clean, and place your ball dead center of the fairway, the rule should NEVER be in play. But you know more than Scotty Scheffler though. Also, shouldn't be able to move twigs, sticks, or other objects your ball land on/around in pine straw or wooded areas neither. Play the MF as it lies. Mud dead center of the fairway is goat ranch ****.
I believe bird sounds are enhanced with strategically placed microphones during CBS golf telecasts. I switched over to SkySports (UK) coverage and was hearing the same bird sounds. Probably because they are using the CBS feed. It does seem a bit loud especially near greens without surrounding trees.
Is CBS Piping Fake Birds into its Coverage?
Maybe the big guns will show up for the weekend. The OWGR (Official World Golf Rankings) for those currently in contention (-4 or better). Nobody in the top 50.
Jhonattan Vegas 70
Matthieu Pavon 64
Ryo Hisatsune 91
Max Homa 78
Luke Donald 871
Alex Smalley 120
Ryan Gerard 81
Michael Thorbjornsen 143
Christiaan Bezuidenhout 65
Nico Echavarria 51
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Long way to go. Several tournaments, lower ranked guys will pull a great round out of their ***. The key is to play solid for 4 days. Cream rises to the top, always does.
Scheffler is sitting at -3 thru 6 holes. 5 back of Vegas (who only shot 1 under 70 today). If Scheffler can simply shoot -3 the next 12 holes (very likely), that is not asking for a unreal round, he will sit 2 back going into moving day and may even end up in the final group with Vegas. Vegas playing with Scheffler will definitely rattle him a bit, cause he to maybe force some things.
Scheffler is sitting at -3 thru 6 holes. 5 back of Vegas (who only shot 1 under 70 today). If Scheffler can simply shoot -3 the next 12 holes (very likely), that is not asking for a unreal round, he will sit 2 back going into moving day and may even end up in the final group with Vegas. Vegas playing with Scheffler will definitely rattle him a bit, cause he to maybe force some things.
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Max Homa is -5, three back after his 64 today. Started the day +2.
DeChambeau is -3 only 5 back.
Rahm -2 thru 8.
Keegan Bradley -1 thru 5
Denny McCarthy -1 thru 4
Several bigger names are still in it and can make a move. The one to watch IMO is Matt Fitzpatrick, major winner, solid game. He is -4 thru 8 holes. He can move up into the top 2. I fully expect him to be at least 6/7 under after today.
DeChambeau is -3 only 5 back.
Rahm -2 thru 8.
Keegan Bradley -1 thru 5
Denny McCarthy -1 thru 4
Several bigger names are still in it and can make a move. The one to watch IMO is Matt Fitzpatrick, major winner, solid game. He is -4 thru 8 holes. He can move up into the top 2. I fully expect him to be at least 6/7 under after today.
Good for those guys, pretty much journeymen. Saw several play at Barbasol/ ISCO
But two more rounds and I bet we see a lot of big names in contention
Just saw a video of Phil taking 4 shots to get out of a bunker. I think I would have declared "F it" and just tossed it out.
As stated...this one is getting creamier by the minute.
Scheffler going to be tough to beat tomorrow. Any kind of decent round and he wins.
Still a few journeymen in the fold but it does look like Scottie’s to lose. As good of a player as Bryson is the short stretch collapses have to be a concern for him.
I found it funny to watch all his bravado after taking the lead followed immediately by his collapse.
Those tough closing holes will be worth watching. The 4 shot swing yesterday in a matter of minutes was shocking: DeChambeau (double bogie) and Scheffler (eagle).
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As is too often the case, I am often a good knowledgeable sports fan, but not a particularly good gambler, naturally failed to take my own advice