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are the membership prices absurd for this?


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Drop in the bucket for the man who gets all the membership fees I’ve been paying to SixPack each month
 

patdog

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Courthouse in Ridgeland is more than that. Of course, you get tennis, pickleball, a pool and the Taj Mahal for a gym with the deal. I've never joined a tennis club 1) because I'm cheap and public courts are cheap, and 2) you're pretty much locked in to only playing club members or you still have to pay if you play somewhere else. But I could see if you live in Gluckstadt and most of your pickleball friends are also going to be members, it might make sense. And I strongly suggest the Lake Caroline pickleballers who are usually playing next to us when we play tennis there should all join this club.
 
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biodawg

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I don’t play, but that probably seems about right for indoor at a new facility.
 

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Pretty pricey for just pickleball. More or less line with what I see for nicer gyms that offer pickleball (I'd guess this is a nicer facility than some of those) plus all the other options.
 

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Never heard the words "luxury", "professional grade", "corporate memberships", or "premier pickleball destination" used describing pickleball or seen champagne being poured when discussing pickleball.

That said, a group in Starkville is finishing out part of the old Flex Steel plant on Industrial Rd with indoor courts and plans to serve liquor and food.
 

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Geez!! That include a country club membership? 135 bucks a month for geriatric tennis? Holy crap.

I've been considering buying some land and putting in a small RV resort type thing around Bay Springs Lake in Tishomingo or Prentiss county MS. What I need to be putting in a pickleball "resort" somewhere.
 
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Never heard the words "luxury", "professional grade", "corporate memberships", or "premier pickleball destination" used describing pickleball or seen champagne being poured when discussing pickleball.

That said, a group in Starkville is finishing out part of the old Flex Steel plant on Industrial Rd with indoor courts and plans to serve liquor and food.
This place is in a strip mall.
 

patdog

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I don’t play, but that probably seems about right for indoor at a new facility.
I was talking with Terry Overcash at Parham Bridges a few years ago and he was talking about the old indoor tennis courts at the old Courthouse Northeast. The cost to operate these things is astronomical compared to the use they get because everyone preferred the outdoor courts unless it was raining or really cold. Indoor pickleball costs would still be much higher even though those courts might get more use than the indoor tennis courts do (I don't know).
 

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Never heard the words "luxury", "professional grade", "corporate memberships", or "premier pickleball destination" used describing pickleball or seen champagne being poured when discussing pickleball.

That said, a group in Starkville is finishing out part of the old Flex Steel plant on Industrial Rd with indoor courts and plans to serve liquor and food.
There is a group doing it. But it's not the flex steel building. It's an open lot on airport road.
 

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I was talking with Terry Overcash at Parham Bridges a few years ago and he was talking about the old indoor tennis courts at the old Courthouse Northeast. The cost to operate these things is astronomical compared to the use they get because everyone preferred the outdoor courts unless it was raining or really cold. Indoor pickleball costs would still be much higher even though those courts might get more use than the indoor tennis courts do (I don't know).
TBH, I’ve never even noticed that they had outdoor courts til I opened DS’s link, but I’ve only driven by there 3-4 times. It only makes sense, but I’m also far from the most observant person.
 
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patdog

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TBH, I’ve never even noticed that they had outdoor courts til I opened DS’s link, but I’ve only driven by there 3-4 times. It only makes sense, but I’m also far from the most observant person.
I've only driven by it a few times. I assume the outdoor courts are out back behind the strip mall.
 
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If you're a regular player, then it's not a bad deal. The drop-in rate is $15 for an hour. If you take the individual membership and play 10 hours a month, you're paying $7.50/hour.

Word is that an indoor pickleball facility will be opening up in the old Antonelli College by Primos on Lakeland.
 

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Geez!! That include a country club membership? 135 bucks a month for geriatric tennis? Holy crap.
Sponsored by orthopedic surgeons and physical therapists. These facilities usually have pickleball specific equipment, including courts that aren't bball courts with tape. An investment that needs to be recovered.

Tips for the over 50 crowd: Don't play against young bangers. Don't run to get to drop shots. Let some lobs go and don't run backwards. It's o.k. to lose points. Watch older women play and copy them. They don't run and chase balls as much (The less testosterone you have the more likely you are to not be interested in making an ESPN highlight reel.) Use a control or all-court paddle instead of a power paddle (widebody/standard has a nice sweet spot). Wear pickleball-specific shoes or good tennis court shoes. Don't play every day. Warm up before playing. Stretch afterwards.
 
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Don't know much about how the membership cost compares to other clubs. But I have played at Magnolia, and it is surprising to me they did not spend a little more and have decent separation/fencing between the courts, both inside and out. It would be frustrating to be in the throes of a long rally and have a stray ball bounce in from the adjacent court and halt play. This would be a (-) for me to pay $75/mo.

In comparison, Halls Ferry Park in Vicksburg has some of the nicest outdoor facilities around for $0/forever. FYI, there is an indoor facility (4/5 courts?) going in at the Pemberton Mall in Vicksburg, should be opening toward the end of the month.
 
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Sponsored by orthopedic surgeons and physical therapists. These facilities usually have pickleball specific equipment, including courts that aren't bball courts with tape. An investment that needs to be recovered.

Tips for the over 50 crowd: Don't play against young bangers. Don't run to get to drop shots. Let some lobs go and don't run backwards. It's o.k. to lose points. Watch older women play and copy them. They don't run and chase balls as much (The less testosterone you have the more likely you are to not be interested in making an ESPN highlight reel.) Use a control or all-court paddle instead of a power paddle (widebody/standard has a nice sweet spot). Wear pickleball-specific shoes or good tennis court shoes. Don't play every day. Warm up before playing. Stretch afterwards.
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Several years ago I played a lot, now not as much.

With the free options in Flowood and nearby it would be difficult to convince me to pay anything at a club. Maybe if a pay facility opened farther east on Lakeland,, the existing pay options are all too far for me. Navigating the entirety of Lakeland on weekday evenings, or anything in Madison County is a no go. I know I would not go often enough for a membership to be worth it.
 

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Geez!! That include a country club membership? 135 bucks a month for geriatric tennis? Holy crap.

I've been considering buying some land and putting in a small RV resort type thing around Bay Springs Lake in Tishomingo or Prentiss county MS. What I need to be putting in a pickleball "resort" somewhere.
You live somewhere you can get a country club membership for a family for $225 a month? If so, be thankful. The places I've spent any time seem to either be affluent enough that they can and do charge an arm and a leg or they live somewhere without enough affluent people so they have to charge an arm and a leg to keep the doors open.

I think somebody told me Canebrake in Hattiesburg is up to $600 a month? That may include some "free" food. Haven't been there in a while but I don't remember it standing out as particularly nice either on the golf course or at the clubhouse. Not sure if they're charging that because they are struggling for members or because they have enough affluent people around them that they're not worried about chasing members off. I assume the latter.

That said, I think at the rate these things seem to be going up, I'd expect them to get much cheaper in the future. Did raquetball take off like this in the 80's or whenever it was big? Seems like everywhere had a raquetball court growing up. Now the newest ones I've seen are probably at the Phoenix's in Orange Beach that were built in I'm guessing the late 80's and early to mid 90's?
 
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Sponsored by orthopedic surgeons and physical therapists. These facilities usually have pickleball specific equipment, including courts that aren't bball courts with tape. An investment that needs to be recovered.

Tips for the over 50 crowd: Don't play against young bangers. Don't run to get to drop shots. Let some lobs go and don't run backwards. It's o.k. to lose points. Watch older women play and copy them. They don't run and chase balls as much (The less testosterone you have the more likely you are to not be interested in making an ESPN highlight reel.) Use a control or all-court paddle instead of a power paddle (widebody/standard has a nice sweet spot). Wear pickleball-specific shoes or good tennis court shoes. Don't play every day. Warm up before playing. Stretch afterwards.
I guess I violate all of those rules sans the warm up and stretching. I love playing against the younger players and win a lot, but I have stayed in the gym heavily and PB is not my only outlet for exercise.
 
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You live somewhere you can get a country club membership for a family for $225 a month? If so, be thankful. The places I've spent any time seem to either be affluent enough that they can and do charge an arm and a leg or they live somewhere without enough affluent people so they have to charge an arm and a leg to keep the doors open.

I think somebody told me Canebrake in Hattiesburg is up to $600 a month? That may include some "free" food. Haven't been there in a while but I don't remember it standing out as particularly nice either on the golf course or at the clubhouse. Not sure if they're charging that because they are struggling for members or because they have enough affluent people around them that they're not worried about chasing members off. I assume the latter.

That said, I think at the rate these things seem to be going up, I'd expect them to get much cheaper in the future. Did raquetball take off like this in the 80's or whenever it was big? Seems like everywhere had a raquetball court growing up. Now the newest ones I've seen are probably at the Phoenix's in Orange Beach that were built in I'm guessing the late 80's and early to mid 90's?
I can confirm $600 a month! Not much cheaper elsewhere.
 

johnson86-1

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I can confirm $600 a month! Not much cheaper elsewhere.

I mean, depending on how many members there are, that doesn't seem crazy high. It's not cheap to maintain a golf course. Pool and tennis clubs aren't free. Tennis pro and golf pro aren't free (I think the days of expecting them to mostly make it on private lessons and pro shop are gone). Most clubs lose money on food and beverage. Probably should be able to do it cheaper if it's well run and has an appropriate number of members, but most clubs aren't well run.
 

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I've only driven by it a few times. I assume the outdoor courts are out back behind the strip mall.
Have you ever been to Fagan’s produce stand just off of 51 just north of there? They’re closed for the season now, but they grow their own strawberries (usually ready about mid-end March) and always have good stuff. They’re good folks.
 
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Sponsored by orthopedic surgeons and physical therapists. These facilities usually have pickleball specific equipment, including courts that aren't bball courts with tape. An investment that needs to be recovered.

Tips for the over 50 crowd: Don't play against young bangers. Don't run to get to drop shots. Let some lobs go and don't run backwards. It's o.k. to lose points. Watch older women play and copy them. They don't run and chase balls as much (The less testosterone you have the more likely you are to not be interested in making an ESPN highlight reel.) Use a control or all-court paddle instead of a power paddle (widebody/standard has a nice sweet spot). Wear pickleball-specific shoes or good tennis court shoes. Don't play every day. Warm up before playing. Stretch afterwards.
^^^This guy knows what he's talking about! I've found 2 hours is a good time length to play--if I play 2 hours or less, I can play every day. I often, though, play 3+ hours and need a day's rest afterward. I'd also suggest stretching before play. Shoe importance can't be overemphasized--got several toenails still trying to recover after playing a tournament over a year ago in regular tennis shoes!

I live in a colder climate where indoor courts are probably more in demand. $75 per month for a single membership is not bad to play indoors. For comparison, the premier facility in our area charges $40 per month plus $8 per hour so the breakeven occurs between 4-5 hours play.

Best courts, though, are outside and FREE! Only need inside courts 2-3 months out of the year unless you prefer to play with country club types as opposed to Dawgs like me.
 
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Have you ever been to Fagan’s produce stand just off of 51 just north of there? They’re closed for the season now, but they grow their own strawberries (usually ready about mid-end March) and always have good stuff. They’re good folks.
No. But I’ll have to try them out. I love strawberries but the ones in the grocery store are average at best. Thanks.
 

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Sponsored by orthopedic surgeons and physical therapists. These facilities usually have pickleball specific equipment, including courts that aren't bball courts with tape. An investment that needs to be recovered.

Tips for the over 50 crowd: Don't play against young bangers. Don't run to get to drop shots. Let some lobs go and don't run backwards. It's o.k. to lose points. Watch older women play and copy them. They don't run and chase balls as much (The less testosterone you have the more likely you are to not be interested in making an ESPN highlight reel.) Use a control or all-court paddle instead of a power paddle (widebody/standard has a nice sweet spot). Wear pickleball-specific shoes or good tennis court shoes. Don't play every day. Warm up before playing. Stretch afterwards.
This, all of my neighbors and friends play, some neighbors even have courts in their driveways, but I refuse to play. I am older (over 60) and though I still run marathons and ultras (call it a brag if you will) the changes in direction and cuts concern me. Running in a straight line is way different than torquing and changing directions. Also this has been a boom for ortho and sports medicine a said above.
 
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This, all of my neighbors and friends play, some neighbors even have courts in their driveways, but I refuse to play. I am older (over 60) and though I still run marathons and ultras (call it a brag if you will) the changes in direction and cuts concern me. Running in a straight line is way different than torquing and changing directions. Also this has been a boom for ortho and sports medicine a said above.
Pickleball was originally marketed S a good sport for older people. But the strain on the knee is pretty big. Lot of injuries.
 

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Sponsored by orthopedic surgeons and physical therapists. These facilities usually have pickleball specific equipment, including courts that aren't bball courts with tape. An investment that needs to be recovered.

Tips for the over 50 crowd: Don't play against young bangers. Don't run to get to drop shots. Let some lobs go and don't run backwards. It's o.k. to lose points. Watch older women play and copy them. They don't run and chase balls as much (The less testosterone you have the more likely you are to not be interested in making an ESPN highlight reel.) Use a control or all-court paddle instead of a power paddle (widebody/standard has a nice sweet spot). Wear pickleball-specific shoes or good tennis court shoes. Don't play every day. Warm up before playing. Stretch afterwards.
Ha! You hit the nail on the head....thought I broke an ankle playing the other day after hurting my back the week before. I'm active daily but I now laugh at people who laugh at people who play pickleball. At a certain level you better be getting after it or you'll be eating wiffle balls left and right.
 
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This, all of my neighbors and friends play, some neighbors even have courts in their driveways, but I refuse to play. I am older (over 60) and though I still run marathons and ultras (call it a brag if you will) the changes in direction and cuts concern me. Running in a straight line is way different than torquing and changing directions. Also this has been a boom for ortho and sports medicine a said above.
You are 💯....doesn't matter how young or in shape you are if you are playing medium level and up it's not hard to get injured at some point.
 

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A buddy of mine texted me recently excited he'd scored two VIP tickets to a professional pickle ball tournament. I immediately had two thoughts. Wt17, there's professional pickle ball? They actually have a VIP section?
 
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A buddy of mine texted me recently excited he'd scored two VIP tickets to a professional pickle ball tournament. I immediately had two thoughts. Wt17, there's professional pickle ball? They actually have a VIP section?
The PPA has their own channel on YTTV and also on Prime and there are several different pro leagues. I went to the US Open last year in Naples Florida and watched Andre Agassi play in the mixed doubles division. Although he didn’t make it to the finals, it was amazing how good the guy was at his (my) age.

Singles are ok, but once you learn the game, doubles is the best if you enjoy strategy. You can have some really long points and it is fun to watch how each side is trying to exploit the weaker aspect of the opponents game.
 
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You're getting out cheap DS. Life Time Fitness opened an indoor pickleball and tennis place near me. It has 3 tennis courts and 12 pickleball courts. I had to email to get the pricing.

Monthly fees. $199 for an individual and $399 for a family of 4.

This spring they'll add workout space, luxury licker rooms, and a "resort style beach club" which upon further investigation is a pool. Once this opens they'll be increasing prices appropriately.... I bet each option goes up $100 minimum.