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Blueaz

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I agree. I’m 40. Spent my whole life in Kentucky. Never once have I heard a white kid referred to as “well spoken.” My black friends cringe and make jokes about it. It’s usually an older white person saying well spoken. It likely began as a term of derision and eventually became accepted in the white lexicon as a complimentary term.

For example, my mother is 73. She isn’t racist at all. Raised me to love everyone regardless of race/gender/religion, etc. She says “well spoken” about Uk players all the time. Only the black players tho.

I think it’s generational. Boomers are really bad about it. I kind of understand. Her generation was the one that started their lives in a segregated society and lived through Civil Rights, integration and southern whites fighting it tooth and nail just to be dicks. Pitiful/inspiring time in our nation’s history. Glad I wasn’t alive. Old footage of the Civil Rights movement is really hard to watch. I just couldn’t imagine hating someone and believing they deserved fewer rights based solely on skin color. Seems dumb.
so, you are saying it may be regional?
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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My guess would be it's still too early for pickup games to be viewed along with all of the satellite camps going on. By mid July hopefully some info gets put out

When is Juzang stepping on campus?
I’m curious about that to. He graduated too late from HS to enroll for the summer semester at UK. He can’t enroll until the fall semester. Does he have to wait until then to come and participate in individual workouts and pick up games?
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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Just because ANY group or individual person of people gets offended by certain words THAT (in and of itself) DOESN'T ALWAYS make it legitimate.

Similar Ex: Some Native Americans are offended at the term “savages” Legitimate?

Yet, there is a Native American little league baseball team in my area with “savages”’as their team name
Wow only on the Rafters can a thread about pickup games descend into a discussion of racism and savagery. In my 8 years in the ABQ I got involved with a woman who was a a full blood Apache. A Native American princess. We would talk about how my distant ancestors the Celts and Picts weren’t much different than her more recent ones. Savages who killed in brutal ways, lived in tribes, and relished killing each other.
 

HagginHall1999

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Black people take offense to it and it’s a legitimate gripe.

Stereotyping and generalizing is also a form of racism and discrimination. I'm not sure that ALL people of different races feel the same way as you are insinuating, nice try.

I deleted my post which was discussing our basketball team, UK, which we all support because it got flipped into an entirely different conversation that made no sense by some moron...not naming names.

Really a sad world we live in when goobers have to try and make something out of nothing.

I'm tired of listening to it and reading about it- we are all people, not monsters....at least most of us aren't.
 
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JesusCal91

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I don’t give a flying F if you’re offended. Fact is most black athletes talk like they’re from the ghetto they make lil Wayne sound like he speaks the Kings English so every now and then there’s someone who’s well spoken if the shoe fits wear it
 
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I don’t give a flying F if you’re offended. Fact is most black athletes talk like they’re from the ghetto they make lil Wayne sound like he speaks the Kings English so every now and then there’s someone who’s well spoken if the shoe fits wear it
The way you speak has zero to do with race or skin color and everything to do with your culture and economic environment you were raised in. There are a wide range of dialects across this country and many are difficult to understand if you are not familiar with them. Some dialects spoken by white people in the deep south are so bad they show subtitles on tv when the people speak. Some dialects in Louisiana that have a Cajun cultural influence are extremely hard to understand. The problem comes when people stereotype people as less intelligent because of the way they speak. It is way more a function of their culture and economic environment than IQ.
Many black athletes come from modest means and areas of the country where they learned to speak in a certain manner. If the majority of college basketball players came from the hollers of West Virginia or Cajun Louisiana regions we may have a hard time understanding them at times as well. A black person from England sounds completely different than a black person from Atlanta Georgia. Dialect is not a black, white, or IQ thing but people tend to generalize and stereotype these issues often to the detriment of black people.
 

JesusCal91

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The way you speak has zero to do with race or skin color and everything to do with your culture and economic environment you were raised in. There are a wide range of dialects across this country and many are difficult to understand if you are not familiar with them. Some dialects spoken by white people in the deep south are so bad they show subtitles on tv when the people speak. Some dialects in Louisiana that have a Cajun cultural influence are extremely hard to understand. The problem comes when people stereotype people as less intelligent because of the way they speak. It is way more a function of their culture and economic environment than IQ.
Many black athletes come from modest means and areas of the country where they learned to speak in a certain manner. If the majority of college basketball players came from the hollers of West Virginia or Cajun Louisiana regions we may have a hard time understanding them at times as well. A black person from England sounds completely different than a black person from Atlanta Georgia. Dialect is not a black, white, or IQ thing but people tend to generalize and stereotype these issues often to the detriment of black people.

Oh really do they?? I’ve never met black people from england and I’ve never been to the south please lecture me some more
 

BBUK_anon

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Stereotyping and generalizing is also a form of racism and discrimination. I'm not sure that ALL people of different races feel the same way as you are insinuating, nice try.

I deleted my post which was discussing our basketball team, UK, which we all support because it got flipped into an entirely different conversation that made no sense by some moron...not naming names.

Really a sad world we live in when goobers have to try and make something out of nothing.

I'm tired of listening to it and reading about it- we are all people, not monsters....at least most of us aren't.

Monsters are people too.o_O
 
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Col. Angus

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Black people take offense to it and it’s a legitimate gripe.
Never seen a white person described as well spoken. It’s almost like people are amazed some black people can form a coherent sentence. One person that wasn’t well spoken though... Eric Bledsoe. Bless that little guy. He’s come a long way since that 2009 “get **** right” press conference.

Some people will just take offense. I'm sure there's people in every race that could find an issue with it. If you take offense from a compliment i could care less what you think and there's not a hateful bone in my body when it comes to race. You're soft and fragile if that actually bothers you
I’m offended at your lack of understanding of the difference between “could care less” and “couldn’t care less”. No offense, of course. If I say that it means you can’t be offended.

Just because ANY group or individual person of people gets offended by certain words THAT (in and of itself) DOESN'T ALWAYS make it legitimate.

Similar Ex: Some Native Americans are offended at the term “savages” Legitimate?

Yet, there is a Native American little league baseball team in my area with “savages”’as their team name

Being savage is a compliment now. It’s means you’re like hardcore awesome or something. I dunno. Kids are weird.
 

Drcats2025

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Black people take offense to it and it’s a legitimate gripe.
I’m sorry, but a lot of black and white athletes talk with slang and use incorrect grammar making it hard to understand at times, so it can be refreshing to see otherwise. It isn’t racist if it’s true, and nothing is more annoying than someone with an agenda that refuses to let people see things for what they are without making them out to be racist.
 

BBUK_anon

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Never seen a white person described as well spoken. It’s almost like people are amazed some black people can form a coherent sentence. One person that wasn’t well spoken though... Eric Bledsoe. Bless that little guy. He’s come a long way since that 2009 “get **** right” press conference.


I’m offended at your lack of understanding of the difference between “could care less” and “couldn’t care less”. No offense, of course. If I say that it means you can’t be offended.



Being savage is a compliment now. It’s means you’re like hardcore awesome or something. I dunno. Kids are weird.

I was savage to my toilet earlier....(TMI to the max butt...)
 

BBUK_anon

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Really not trying to lecture. Just throwing out points to ponder.

 
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I am white and so I know that I cannot truly understand where someone from another background, ethnicity, etc. is coming from. That being said, my personal belief is that we all should make it our goal to be unoffendable. People say a lot of things to a lot of groups and individuals, but it ultimately is their decision on whether they let that get to them. I look at it that if someone is not intending something to be offensive then I won't be offended and if they do intend for it to be offensive then I am only letting them win to be offended by it. So either way the best thing is to not get offended. I tell my kids all the time that if you know someone is trying to get at you, then ignore it. That is the only way the other person does not get satisfaction from it. Same applies here I would say.
 
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JC CATS

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Wow only on the Rafters can a thread about pickup games descend into a discussion of racism and savagery. In my 8 years in the ABQ I got involved with a woman who was a a full blood Apache. A Native American princess. We would talk about how my distant ancestors the Celts and Picts weren’t much different than her more recent ones. Savages who killed in brutal ways, lived in tribes, and relished killing each other.
Sounds fun! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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BBUK_anon

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I am white and so I know that I cannot truly understand where someone from another background, ethnicity, etc. is coming from. That being said, my personal belief is that we all should make it our goal to be unoffendable. People say a lot of things to a lot of groups and individuals, but it ultimately is their decision on whether they let that get to them. I look at it that if someone is not intending something to be offensive then I won't be offended and if they do intend for it to be offensive then I am only letting them win to be offended by it. So either way the best thing is to not get offended. I tell my kinds all the time that if you know someone is trying to get at you, then ignore it. That is the only way the other person does not get satisfaction from it. Same applies here I would say.

Shank'em...
 

HagginHall1999

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I am white and so I know that I cannot truly understand where someone from another background, ethnicity, etc. is coming from. That being said, my personal belief is that we all should make it our goal to be unoffendable. People say a lot of things to a lot of groups and individuals, but it ultimately is their decision on whether they let that get to them. I look at it that if someone is not intending something to be offensive then I won't be offended and if they do intend for it to be offensive then I am only letting them win to be offended by it. So either way the best thing is to not get offended. I tell my kids all the time that if you know someone is trying to get at you, then ignore it. That is the only way the other person does not get satisfaction from it. Same applies here I would say.

Not to mention the world has lost its sense of humor. No one can say anything anymore and everyone is offended about something.

The bottom line is stereotypes and generalizations are human nature...they also are a part of every race, religion, etc. They are human nature because by nature the vast majority judge a book by its cover and specifically the differences between a vs b.

Today it is about it being unacceptable for some races to say something to/about another race but acceptable/funny if another race says something to/about a different race. This also doesn't isn't limited to just race....but religion or lack thereof, gender, politics, sexual orientation, everything one could imagine.

Lol, I asked for this thread to be deleted and I'm still commenting...
 

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Sounds fun! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
NP. It was. She was uh, a wildcat pun intended. But a sweet lady, a single, divorced mom with 14 and 12 year old daughters, and an ER nurse. 5 years older and a complete departure for me in every way. A good friend at the time and still was talking about her on the phone just last night.
 
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king of cali

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I don’t give a flying F if you’re offended. Fact is most black athletes talk like they’re from the ghetto they make lil Wayne sound like he speaks the Kings English so every now and then there’s someone who’s well spoken if the shoe fits wear it

Of course you don’t care. You’re hiding behind the anonymity of your keyboard.
 

BBUK_anon

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Not to mention the world has lost its sense of humor. No one can say anything anymore and everyone is offended about something.

The bottom line is stereotypes and generalizations are human nature...they also are a part of every race, religion, etc. They are human nature because by nature the vast majority judge a book by its cover and specifically the differences between a vs b.

Today it is about it being unacceptable for some races to say something to/about another race but acceptable/funny if another race says something to/about a different race. This also doesn't isn't limited to just race....but religion or lack thereof, gender, politics, sexual orientation, everything one could imagine.

Lol, I asked for this thread to be deleted and I'm still commenting...

One of the biggest issues in race relations is one person claiming to speak for an entire group when they do not know the entire group, whether they may belong to that group or not is irrelevant. That is racism or bigotry in its worst form but it is used masterfully by some. (I am speaking for me.)
 
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Wall2Boogie

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Bud Mackey, that is a blast from the past. So, so much wasted talent on that kid
Dude need extra cash by bringing drugs and a gun to school, gotta make sure he strapped at all times. He probably would of had a decent career and made a living overseas. What would possess him to bring that **** to school when you have a full ride for basketball is beyond me. I guess he was keeping it real and it cost him
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Dude need extra cash by bringing drugs and a gun to school, gotta make sure he strapped at all times. He probably would of had a decent career and made a living overseas. What would possess him to bring that **** to school when you have a full ride for basketball is beyond me. I guess he was keeping it real and it cost him

When keeping it real... goes wrong.
 
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