Players fighting before UL?

UKortho

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Listen it would make total sense. This team doesn’t like each other at all. And I believe Oweh isn’t up and up. Haven’t thought it since last season and just gonna say that. My opinion. I broke down a few games…..let’s just say I’m allowed to believe what I want and have hinted at that opinion since least season.

This team clearly doesn’t practice together or like each other. Massive miss by Mark at a time when you can’t have it. You just took a player off an SEC title team and the year before - a final four team. Those coaches are going to absolutely go ham on him in the off season.

Looks like the agents are going to say you’ll need to pay more if you want him. That’s my fear at this second. Golden is going to go all in on the trial.

Regardless of whatever happens and I’m in the belief that Mark can turn it, but in this climate I don’t know that he can mitigate this big of a flub at the worst time. Beginning year 2 and losing all momentum from last season. With 2 players you took off SEC rosters. Kentucky better throw a lot more money into this.

I also think this is going to be common now. These players don’t live together and they are rich now. We’re going to see bad teams a lot. Takes a special bunch to be 18 worth millions a still practice. Does it look like Oweh cares? Hell no. He looks good and manicured though. I’d park his mf *** on the bench no doubt. 100%.

Think of all the idiots who think giving them millions, then not living at the lodge together etc doesn’t matter. lol.
Yep. Only players in the lodge last year were Perry. Noah, Chandler, and Carr.
 

MidseasonTweak

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Pope was hinting at them fighting and sort of getting close to admitting it so they’d see it. He needs to come out and call it to the media.

Send Oweh packing. Don’t trust him, I’ve thought he was sketchy for a while now. Surely mark sees it.
Like kick him off? I am sick of him too, but that would choke off NIL from boosters going forward.
 

Noledynasty2490

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I mean that would make sense down 20 to Mich st. Not before any adversity even hit the team.

A team that was together could be trying to motivate each other and hold each other up, not fighting.


But I mean okay lol
 

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Yeah, you have for sure played a lot of sports.

Lol you seem to be in massive denial, and that's okay. I hope you're right
 

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Kentucky15

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Like kick him off? I am sick of him too, but that would choke off NIL from boosters going forward.

Oweh is probably pissed he’s not the highest paid. He’s not even trying to perform out there. I watched him for 5 straight tonight and didn’t take my eyes off. He put forth no effort. He’s been paid to perform and he’s going to pull this?

No way I’d send him back out there. He’s destroying the team in all likelihood. I just see no way around it that he’s the problem. Oweh is nothing like he was when he first came here. Not close.
 

Jtf2217

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I think the main issue is everyone is too high on the HOG now. Everyone on the roster except for probably the walkons make far more than the average person in the US. Noah I think made 250k his FR season. I work a respectable job in little ole Bell County KY (right down the road from Harlan) bringing in about 70k trent got 3.5 years of my salary to play a game plus room and board and all the perks of being a UK basketball player (and there are plenty) ..if he stays all 4 he will make about 14-15 years worth of my salary plus get a 100k+ degree. That's assuming he doesn't get a bump in his later years.

Now take someone like Oweh or someone that we've paid astronomical numbers (in the millions) they have their $. More money than they'll ever need if they're smart. What's the motivation anymore? Gone are the stories of so and so absolutely coming from nothing and busting their *** because they're trying to be something. I think NIL should be paid post season for that reason....I'd imagine if oweh and them keep it up they won't have no NIL to sell so their value would be tanked.
 
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Kentucky15

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I think the main issue is everyone is too high on the HOG now. Everyone on the roster except for probably the walkons make far more than the average person in the US. Noah I think made 250k his FR season. I work a respectable job in little ole Bell County KY (right down the road from Harlan) bringing in about 70k trent got 3.5 years of my salary to play a game plus room and board and all the perks of being a UK basketball player (and there are plenty) ..if he stays all 4 he will make about 14-15 years worth of my salary plus get a 100k+ degree.

Now take someone like Oweh or someone that we've paid astronomical numbers (in the millions) they have their $. More money than they'll ever need if they're smart. What's the motivation anymore? Gone are the stories of so and so absolutely coming from nothing and busting their *** because they're trying to be something. I think NIL should be paid post season for that reason....I'd imagine if oweh and them keep it up they won't have no NIL to sell so their value would be tanked.

paying players was always a bad idea. There’s a reason all of the coaches from back in the day and the NCAA didn’t let it happen. College basketball circles are flat out criminal scumbags. You give out of a bunch of money and chaos will come with it.

That system was always trash. And I don’t want to hear “it’s just not under the table now”. This game was NEVER like it is today. Cheating happened but low key and nothing to this extreme. If you did you were wiped out.

They were college kids who played the right way and were coached by men. They didn’t have money they had goals. This new version is trash. College football is trash too.
 

UKBB4Ever

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paying players was always a bad idea. There’s a reason all of the coaches from back in the day and the NCAA didn’t let it happen. College basketball circles are flat out criminal scumbags. You give out of a bunch of money and chaos will come with it.

That system was always trash. And I don’t want to hear “it’s just not under the table now”. This game was NEVER like it is today. Cheating happened but low key and nothing to this extreme. If you did you were wiped out.

They were college kids who played the right way and were coached by men. They didn’t have money they had goals. This new version is trash. College football is trash too.
Then why aren’t other teams just quitting?

UK players are not the only ones getting paid.

Boozer is supposedly one of the highest paid.

Why is he out there busting his ***?
 

sefus12

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They should start fining them. Either you’re gonna man up and play to win or we’re gonna take 25% of your NIL. Gotta be held to some kind of standards. Especially when you’re being paid. WTF
Performance-based (both player and team) NIL contracts would be ideal if we have to live in this world, but why would any player go to a team that requires a certain performance level to get paid when they could go to another school and get paid regardless of performance?

Unless all schools implement performance-based contracts, trying to push that at a single school will certainly fail.
 

Noledynasty2490

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Nah you're right. When teams are getting blown out the players are always very calm and show no emotion.

Like I said, hope you're right
 

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Jeff Sykes

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I have no idea about any of this, but it's clear that something is off with this team. I know BG isn't Kareem, but he had a little 6" guard on him, and they looked at him and didn't throw him the ball. Why? He could have at least gotten fouled. If there are players who are not getting along with each other, they should be put in a room together until they resolve their issues. If they can't, then they need to be put on the end of the bench until they work it out. The problem with what the UK is paying is that they are paying star-studded money to role players. No one on this team can carry this team. It will take every single one of them pulling on the rope together, or they will be remembered as one of the worst teams ever at UK. Their choice.
 

Ford to Mashburn

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Performance-based (both player and team) NIL contracts would be ideal if we have to live in this world, but why would any player go to a team that requires a certain performance level to get paid when they could go to another school and get paid regardless of performance?

Unless all schools implement performance-based contracts, trying to push that at a single school will certainly fail.
Obviously it would have to be across the board
 
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wrcaud22

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The f*ck is Garrison barking at anyone about? Guy is one of the worst players on our team who can’t make the effort to leave his feet to block a guard taking a jumper in his face or trying to grab a rebound that falls two feet in front of him. Guy is a giant wast of NIL money.
Guys let's not hate on Pope right now. Let's hate on Garrison. He was always the weak point of this team and now he's a cancer too? JQ can't get here soon enough
 
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wrcaud22

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Pope is soft as sheeeeet. Horrible basketball coach and a complete doofus. I was on the Pope bus but I’m jumping out the window. Horrible start
Complete dufus? He brought us a National Championship and he was through school to be a Neurosurgeon. I'm still on the Pope bus so don't embarrass this fanbase. Which I'm positive you're not a real fan
 
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Eastkybball

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Complete dufus? He brought us a National Championship and he was through school to be a Neurosurgeon. I'm still on the Pope bus so don't embarrass this fanbase. Which I'm positive you're not a real fan
Yea he’s a complete doofus when it comes to coaching! I appreciate him single handedly bringing us a title. Guess it didn’t help him surrounded by the greatest team and coach in all of college basketball.
 
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wrcaud22

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Yea he’s a complete doofus when it comes to coaching! I appreciate him single handedly bringing us a title. Guess it didn’t help him surrounded by the greatest team and coach in all of college basketball.
Let me be clear... I don't like the coaching this season so far. But last season wasn't bad so I'm not going to panick yet. And by your point, if this hall of fame coach names him team captain of this great team, that's something
 

One2Three

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Let me be clear... I don't like the coaching this season so far. But last season wasn't bad so I'm not going to panick yet. And by your point, if this hall of fame coach names him team captain of this great team, that's something
BCG’s first year wasn’t that bad either. Sure he had over 10 losses, but he won a couple of ranked games too.
 

wrcaud22

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Let me be clear... I don't like the coaching this season so far. But last season wasn't bad so I'm not going to panick yet. And by your point, if this hall of fame coach names him team captain of this great team, that's something
My point is he needs more rope before the eastern part of our state starts bitching. I'm sure there are others but hopefully the majority can give this guy some time. He can't control internal fights from our so called veteran "leaders". I'd kick Garrison off right now if I were him
 

wrcaud22

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My point is he needs more rope before the eastern part of our state starts bitching. I'm sure there are others but hopefully the majority can give this guy some time. He can't control internal fights from our so called veteran "leaders". I'd kick Garrison off right now if I were him
And I live in DC. Im an unbiased, realistic fan
 
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My point is he needs more rope before the eastern part of our state starts bitching. I'm sure there are others but hopefully the majority can give this guy some time. He can't control internal fights from our so called veteran "leaders". I'd kick Garrison off right now if I were him
I’d definitely feel better if I woke up tomorrow and saw that someone was kicked off the team. It would let me know he will do whatever it takes to fix it
 

Drogon

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New saying. Losing to Louisville breeds contempt. Cure.... don't fugging lose to ΓΓ




 

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