Seriously, we need talent
Please get Stokes & Collins commitment
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And pay whatever the fk they want because "saving" money just means it will be used to overpay some mediocre third-tier target.
MAINLY STOKES!!! We need TOP LEVEL TALENT!
Absolutely!!! Can anyone say Brandon Garrison and Jaland Lowe???
Pay big for a guy like Stokes and go 7-8 deep next year vs spreading the money out for 12 ok guys.
I’ll say this and be ready to take any heat yall bring. I’m upset about the game yes… but what I’m about to say isn’t because of one game.
If Pope misses on these recruits. Doesn’t upgrade the talent next year then I’m off the bandwagon completely.
I’m team Pope 100% as of now. I want him to do good. If he misses on Stokes or Collins or Holt or Rippey I’m done and will be ready to move on. I’ll always support the cats but I’m not gonna watch Kentucky have tubby level talent with number one amount of resources.
If Pope misses on these recruits. Doesn’t upgrade the talent next year then I’m off the bandwagon completely.
I’m team Pope 100% as of now. I want him to do good. If he misses on Stokes or Collins or Holt or Rippey I’m done and will be ready to move on. I’ll always support the cats but I’m not gonna watch Kentucky have tubby level talent with number one amount of resources.
I will never not support UK, but not bringing in elite talent is a recipe for failure. He has to prove he can get elite talent to sign. I know JJ and MM are 5 stars but without the KY ties do they still sign here?
How can someone spend 22 million and then put that product on the court? Something is bad wrong with this picture!
No I don’t think they do. And I think Pope may of over paid for them knowing there’s no way he could miss on them. So I just want him to overpay for players that are game changers.
Trilly or someone else said Garrison was overpaid like 3M
I think 4M can buy Wilson here
I laugh now
If we paid garrison 3 million Pope needs to be fired right now before 12 o clock
If Garrison was paid 3M I'm going out to the shed to sharpen my pitchfork.
We need Stokes level talent desperately. Collins is complementary talent.
pope had caleb wilson in our hands, we had several crystall balls for him, but at the end of the day opted for a older and more experienced mo, i love mo but cmon
Talent is important but you also need someone that can coach talent.
CW, I agree we need both players for next year but for this year we have the talent to have a good team and it’s up to the staff to utilize the roster.
dont get it twisted collins woukd be the most talented player pope has ever had, but stokes is the game changing player i agree
bingo. why is bg starting over moreno whos played every game better
Having Tubby level talent works when you can coach.
Collins is more talented than anyone on current roster except for JQ
Yea I shouldn’t have said that because Tubbys teams and players were some of my favorites. I’m just a mad fan right now. Idk if we even have the talent tubby had tho honestly.
This. I was critical of his roster selection the entire time he put it together because we paid a bunch of role players. I assumed we surely got a bargain but....quite the opposite.
Us paying so many guys is just nuts. If we're down to guy 12 or 13, the season is over regardless. Focus money on 8 guys then fill the rest with ky kids at a discount.
Have to wonder if UK needs to up the ante to get these guys to spend a year in Lexington, KY. Its no longer Kentucky and 6 other top spots. Theres now 60 places to go to, and sadly, Lexington, UK and the state of KY dont stand out on their own.
We have 22 million apparently. Am I crazy for thinking we can’t spend huge on our entire starting 5 then build around them? We have enough money to spend on all these players but we won’t give a couple a little extra.
You could literally pay a couple dudes five million. A couple absolute studs and then fill it in with complimentary peices.
That’s 10 million for two studs. You got 12 million left to get 6 or 7 guys. You could even go top heavy and get a few more top tier studs for like 2.5 a peice. I just feel like the 22 million isn’t true.
IF the 22 million is correct, then Pope & UK need a refund. What ever the amount to Mo D should have been thrown to Wilson.
His size and athletic ability could sure be helpful. I also like Jelavic. He played pretty well last night. Thus far Jasper looks vastly over paid.
I hope that is not true........Mo D is not a game changer
Here is all i know. That number was reported by several reputable outlets. Iirc even Goodman reported it just before or just after coming to interview Pope. That number was never once disputed.
Instead, Pope openly embraced being the nil leader in basketball.
So whatever the number is, it is certain we're paying the most direct nil for basketball. Schools like Duke is arranging more nil for sure, but its coming from sources other than their collective. All our money comes from basically one donor.
don't know how talented JQ is........he hasn't played yet & may not
I truly hope that he can return @ 100% and dominates the inside, blocking shots & grabbing rebounds
One thing concerning is that if Pope can not make run with huge NIL
Will he get large amount of money next season? It could get worse and worse
He was top 10 hs recruit, five star obviously
And was big 12 all defensive team at 17 years old
He is definitely very talented
and that one donor can not compete with schools that have multiple millionaire donors.
maybe uk could contact Beszos ex-wife and ask her for a donation
You constantly take up for Stoops but trash Pope. Yeah you’re definitely a troll
Definitely trolls come out when we lose. It was a road game. Louisville acting like they beat us on neutral or away site.
This is what I keep coming back to… How does a program as valuable as UK spend $22 million (I don’t personally believe that) on a roster and not land a single perennial stud?
Dybantsa, Peterson, Peat, Wilson, Ament, et al, came in at, or less than that amount collectively, for their respective programs! Don’t care about freshmen? How about the Dent or Lendeborg types that were available in the portal to the highest bidder?
Something is seriously amiss here
Dybantsa, Peterson, Peat, Wilson, Ament, et al, came in at, or less than that amount collectively, for their respective programs! Don’t care about freshmen? How about the Dent or Lendeborg types that were available in the portal to the highest bidder?
Something is seriously amiss here
We want Kentucky (eastern) boys who play for the name on the front or some corny nonsense like that.
If you are talking about competing in more than one sport, i agree. At least since Pope and Brooks arrived, it seems we are definitely intent on investing in basketball and hoops.
So in terms of the topic of discussion, basketball collective money, UK basketball is top of the heap.
Pope and Stoops situation is not the same. Winning in basketball at Kentucky is a lot easier than winning in Football at Kentucky. I speak in reality and if that is taking up for Stoops and trashing Pope, that is your opinion. The problem is Pope did not learn from Cal's mistake. Cal liked to talk to much in his press conferences. Pope does the same. To tell this fan base that this team reminds him of the 1996 team is insulting not only the Kentucky basketball fans but also the players that were on that team. He can Coach offense, but he lacks a lot on defense. He is probably the worst defensive coach that UK has had in my life time.
If the reports are accurate, he was given 22 million for a 15 team roster. That means he had an average of 1.46 million a player. If we want equality, then that means the football team would need 153 million to build their roster.
I agree we need stokes, i dont care what the price tag is. And i hope he is a mean person , we need that lol
So 22M wasn't enough for us to be elite? We need even more??
Jesus, we are already the highest spenders in the nation (outside of maybe Duke). It's like we are born on third base and still can't get home.