Policeman charged with murder after shooting black man in South Carolina

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Figured I'd post this here before the national media got ahold of this story.

Cliff Notes version:

North Charleston cop pulls over 50 yr old black man for malfunctioning brake light this past Saturday. Sometime during the stop, the cop and suspect get into physical altercation. Cop shoots and kills suspect, then radios into HQ saying the suspect went for his Taser. No criminal record for the guy, just a couple of late child support payments on his record. Family upset, but it looks like a tragic accident, with the usual "Why didn't he cooperate with the officer?" comments.

REAL story: Cop tases suspect, but with no effect. Suspect tries to run away with electrodes still in him. Cop shoots him in the back, killing him. Guess what? A citizen was recording the whole thing with their cell phone. Video was turned over to the authorities. After review, the mayor and police chief call a press conference and state the officer will be charged with murder.

So far, no riots, no demonstrations in the Charleston area. And no need for them. The officer did wrong and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And North Charleston is going to be on the hook for a LARGE sum of money going to the victim's family.

Almost got away with it
 

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Damn he should be arrested no reason to shoot someone running away without a weapon.
 

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Thankfully justice will be served. Can you imagine what happens to cops in prison?
 
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tough to tell for sure, but the video makes it look like he went back over, picked up the taser, then walked over and left it next to the body


i also liked the part where he tried to casually find the corpse's pulse
 

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Seven shots to the torso? What the hell. That guy is a psychopath.
 

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You can't make this up...

Slager's attorney had released a statement Monday saying the officer felt threatened and that the motorist was trying to grab the officer's stun gun.
 

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Originally posted by Willy4UK:

Body cams are a must. Cop should get the death penalty.
Amazingly, they'll be malfunctioning when they don't benefit the cops story.
 

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Originally posted by Willy4UK:

Body cams are a must. Cop should get the death penalty.
Yep. People want to complain about body cams but its literally the only thing that protects us from psychotic cops. Because they will always say someone is going for their gun to justify their BS.

That cop in Oakland that killed the kid in front of hundreds of people at a subway station a few years ago said he thought he was using his taser. He got some BS sentence protected from everyone else and is now out. How many of us would get that sentence if we did that to a cop?

Cops deserve even worse punishments for abuse of power.
 

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Originally posted by AthensCatFan:

Originally posted by Willy4UK:

Body cams are a must. Cop should get the death penalty.
Amazingly, they'll be malfunctioning when they don't benefit the cops story.
Amazingly you're right. Body cams come with a 100% guarantee, only to have them work 35% of the time.


Heisman-Agree with every word.
 

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Things are calm in North Chuck. The national media is highly disappointed...but I'm pretty sure they'll find somebody not from here to stir things up. Instead of using the local media (who were on top of the story from the beginning), CNN goes straight to the New York Times for their source info. I guess we're a bunch of rubes down here.

FWIW, Keith Summey (North Chuck's mayor) is a pretty stand-up guy. Not really familiar with their police chief (hasn't been on the job a year yet) but that video laid it down. There's no excuse for what happened, and word on the street is that the city will make a generous offer to the family for wrongful death. They want this settled, and settled quickly. Boeing is in North Chuck and Daimler-Benz is scheduled for a multi-million dollar expansion there too.
 
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Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:
You can't make this up...

Slager's attorney had released a statement Monday saying the officer felt threatened and that the motorist was trying to grab the officer's stun gun.
Guess what? Without the video, this would've been a winning argument. How scary is that?

For years, this type of stuff has been going on. Why do you think police unions fought so hard to make it illegal to video police officers?
 

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One thing for certain, that darn video shows exactly what happened. If the cop intended to stop the man, why not aim for his legs.
 

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Originally posted by GhostVol:
Figured I'd post this here before the national media got ahold of this story.

Cliff Notes version:

So far, no riots, no demonstrations in the Charleston area. And no need for them. The officer did wrong and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And North Charleston is going to be on the hook for a LARGE sum of money going to the victim's family.
How pissed is Sharpton right now?

I would say give him the death penalty but that will cost the state much more than putting him in Gen-pop and letting nature taking its course.
 

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Originally posted by Willy4UK:

Body cams are a must. Cop should get the death penalty.
Yes and yes. Total abuse of power. In this day and age, portable video has quite been a game changer.

My heart goes out to the family of the deceased.
 

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Originally posted by AustinTXCat:

Yes and yes. Total abuse of power. In this day and age, portable video has quite been a game changer.

My heart goes out to the family of the deceased.
It makes me very leery when I hear someone who opposes body cams. I don't trust'em.

Body cams will be the new generation fight. Don't stop till all cops are livewired while only on duty. No camera foul ups or tech problems are excusable. All complaints are reviewed and mediated through a non-biased independent 3rd party.
 

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Originally posted by musrat59:
One thing for certain, that darn video shows exactly what happened. If the cop intended to stop the man, why not aim for his legs.
Because even when they are murdering someone (ok, especially not in that situation), cops are not trained to shoot for the legs, "wing" someone, shoot the gun out of their hands, etc. The average street cop isn't Raylan Givens or Annie Oakley - they are probably average shots at best, and are trained to shoot at a human torso because that is the most effective way to take down a target without (in theory) spraying rounds all over the place and harming others in the area.

They are also trained to "fire until the threat is neutralized" if and when they are forced (or in this case, choose) to fire their weapon. Not even a professional shooter is going to take the risk of getting him/herself hurt or killed if they are in a high-stress shooting situation. The "shoot them in the leg" people don't seem to get that.

That said, this particular cop needs to fry. Or at least spend the rest of his life eating grape jelly tossed salads prepared by his 400 pound cellmate.
 

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Originally posted by Willy4UK:
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:

Yes and yes. Total abuse of power. In this day and age, portable video has quite been a game changer.

My heart goes out to the family of the deceased.
It makes me very leery when I hear someone who opposes body cams. I don't trust'em.

Body cams will be the new generation fight. Don't stop till all cops are livewired while only on duty. No camera foul ups or tech problems are excusable. All complaints are reviewed and mediated through a non-biased independent 3rd party.
Totally agree. It's all about accountability. No one is above the law, even those who enforce it.

By the way, I meant to say "portable video has been quite a game changer". Had not yet drank my first cup of tea before typing that statement. Duh!
 

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Originally posted by vhcat70:

Originally posted by Willy4UK:

Cop should get the death penalty.
NOT. Not premeditated. Heat of the moment.
Heat of the moment? I doubt it. Shoot to kill was on this guy's mind. Isn't it a felony to cover up a felony? Is that grounds for the death penalty?
 
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Originally posted by Willy4UK:
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:

Yes and yes. Total abuse of power. In this day and age, portable video has quite been a game changer.

My heart goes out to the family of the deceased.
It makes me very leery when I hear someone who opposes body cams. I don't trust'em.

Body cams will be the new generation fight. Don't stop till all cops are livewired while only on duty. No camera foul ups or tech problems are excusable. All complaints are reviewed and mediated through a non-biased independent 3rd party.
And if there's any malfunction, the officer ceases his shift until resolved. That's how they already get around turning over dash cam videos.
 

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Where are all the resident paddock racists (who think all minorities are on welfare) defending the cop? Obviously the citizen who took the video should be locked up in jail for violating that poor policeman's rights.
 

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Originally posted by -LEK-:
Where are all the resident paddock racists (who think all minorities are on welfare) defending the cop? Obviously the citizen who took the video should be locked up in jail for violating that poor policeman's rights.
The guy filming appeared to be white
 

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Originally posted by jamo0001:
tough to tell for sure, but the video makes it look like he went back over, picked up the taser, then walked over and left it next to the body


i also liked the part where he tried to casually find the corpse's pulse
Yep, he was trying to plant the taser to fit his cover story. The goon with a badge is probably a sociopath that has been itching to get a kill. This really pisses me off no reason for this crap. When are they going to start comprehensive psychological screening for LEO applicants.
 

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Originally posted by HeismanWildcat85:
Originally posted by -LEK-:
Where are all the resident paddock racists (who think all minorities are on welfare) defending the cop? Obviously the citizen who took the video should be locked up in jail for violating that poor policeman's rights.
The guy filming appeared to be white
In that case....

Meant as a social, not legal pass.
This post was edited on 4/8 10:39 AM by We-Todd-Did
 

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Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

And if there's any malfunction, the officer ceases his shift until resolved. That's how they already get around turning over dash cam videos.
I don't think I agree with this. I don't want a good officer taken off the street because his camera runs out of batteries or there's a flashing red light on the camera (or however you would recognize a malfunction). How would you know anyway?

Guns jam. Cars don't start. Tasers malfunction. You can't control everything. If there is somehow hypothetically a high correlation of murdered innocents compared to malfunctioning body cameras, then there's a problem, but don't yank an officer off his beat because of the possibility that his camera isn't working.
 

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Originally posted by funKYcat75:

I don't think I agree with this. I don't want a good officer taken off the street because his camera runs out of batteries or there's a flashing red light on the camera (or however you would recognize a malfunction). How would you know anyway?

Guns jam. Cars don't start. Tasers malfunction. You can't control everything. If there is somehow hypothetically a high correlation of murdered innocents compared to malfunctioning body cameras, then there's a problem, but don't yank an officer off his beat because of the possibility that his camera isn't working.
Yeah, but Funky don't you think it would be highly suspicious if that cop's camera messed up during a very important dispute, such as let's say a murder? It just sets precedence if cops are able to get off during a murder investigation that the cop conveniently had his camera malfunctioned. Too coincidental.

No one wants good cops off the street.
 

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Originally posted by -LEK-:
Where are all the resident paddock racists (who think all minorities are on welfare) defending the cop? Obviously the citizen who took the video should be locked up in jail for violating that poor policeman's rights.
You have some issues...

Why in the world would anyone defend the cop?

The defense of the cop in Ferguson was based upon the crime scene science...are you a science denier?
 

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Originally posted by -LEK-:
Where are all the resident paddock racists (who think all minorities are on welfare) defending the cop? Obviously the citizen who took the video should be locked up in jail for violating that poor policeman's rights.
 

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8 shots in the back. Not sure there is a defense for that.

"You see your honor, the defendant was tired and didn't want to run. He thought that 8 lethal bullets would slow the perpetrator down and then could take him in. He certainly didn't mean to kill him."
 
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Originally posted by ctharris07:
8 shots in the back. Not sure there is a defense for that.

"You see your honor, the defendant was tired and didn't want to run. He thought that 8 lethal bullets would slow the perpetrator down and then could take him in. He certainly didn't mean to kill him."
"He was a black, your Honor. Therefore, my client thought the perpetrator was moonwalking towards him and he took the only available defensive action."
 

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Originally posted by Willy4UK:

Yeah, but Funky don't you think it would be highly suspicious if that cop's camera messed up during a very important dispute, such as let's say a murder? It just sets precedence if cops are able to get off during a murder investigation that the cop conveniently had his camera malfunctioned. Too coincidental.

No one wants good cops off the street.
It would be suspicious, but I'm not sure how you can plan for a camera legitimately malfunctioning. I just (jokingly) envision a cop pulling over an actual suspect and then saying "Shoot, my SD card is full. Can you hold on for a few minutes?"

I'm sure there is some way with Bluetooth or something to create a backup of whatever is happening on the camera, but there are still a lot of 'What Ifs' involved.

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a camera keeping tabs on the bad guys and bad cop, but the hypocritical side of me doesn't like having cameras everywhere recording our every move. I'm complicated like that, I guess. I also fear that a good cop would second guess his every move knowing that every second of his work days is subject to recording and review. I think most of us would hate a job like that, unless it paid reaallllllly well.
 

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Originally posted by funKYcat75:

It would be suspicious, but I'm not sure how you can plan for a camera legitimately malfunctioning. I just (jokingly) envision a cop pulling over an actual suspect and then saying "Shoot, my SD card is full. Can you hold on for a few minutes?"

I'm sure there is some way with Bluetooth or something to create a backup of whatever is happening on the camera, but there are still a lot of 'What Ifs' involved.

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a camera keeping tabs on the bad guys and bad cop, but the hypocritical side of me doesn't like having cameras everywhere recording our every move. I'm complicated like that, I guess. I also fear that a good cop would second guess his every move knowing that every second of his work days is subject to recording and review. I think most of us would hate a job like that, unless it paid reaallllllly well.
hahahaha


Yeah most of us would hate to be filmed on the job, but lots of jobs do it. My wife's company is a food distribution place, they have cameras on every angle. Cops are different. their pay is getting paid by local taxpayers and there should have some accountability for that. Private place can do what they like.