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Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:
Originally posted by CATS1945:
Your candidate, Hillary is going to get grilled over Benghazi. By the way, what has she done to be elected president - senator of NY - nothing whoopi do! What did she do there. Secretary of State - nothing that was worth a crap. The Dems will nominate anyone who is a lefty - which she is.

I am done with the Clintons and Bushes - Ready for a fresh new face - that person is Scott Walker.
Correction: she SHOULD get absolutely skewered with Benghazi questions. But she wont.

However had it been a GOP candidate in charge of that debacle and subsequent attempted coverup - theyd be unelectable for the next 500 years.
W was in charge of the country and a big portion knew there were no WMDs or Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, but Bush still won his next election.

So your point is rather invalid.
 

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Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:


Originally posted by qwesley:
KSR was at kykinnect today and MJ said he did not know until just before they went on air that there were fines if you went uninsured. Like Gruber said they designed the plan for stupid and detached voters, fines and taxes getting incrementally higher over time.
Just like the Iraq war...

One LIE forces people to buy health insurance so that our society addresses the costs of healthcare. The enforcement of this law is a tax on that segment of society.

The other LIE caused us to waste over a trillion dollars, kill almost 5,000 troops, permanently injure 25,000 troops, kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and made us less safe.


Yup, gov't lies. Thanks for pointing that out Sherlock.


Still waiting on an explanation of exactly what Bush lied about...... Multiple intelligence agencies from various countries involved in the Iraq conflict all agreed that Sadaam had intentions to produce and use WMD's. In addition, both Democrats and Republicans had access to the same intelligence and briefings, and all of them voted for and supported the Iraq invasion.
 
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I've never believed GWB lied. At worst he got some bad intelligence, and even of that, I'm still not even sure. Read a book recently called 'The Miracle of the Kurds". That group of people is glad Saddam is gone. I believe what the Kurds are attempting to accomplish, is what we (GWB) had in mind for Iraq. Protecting our oil interests certainly played a part.
 
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Apparently growing tired of merely beheading or crucifying captives, ISIS is now putting pilots in cages and then burning them alive.
 

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Originally posted by CATS1945:
Your candidate, Hillary is going to get grilled over Benghazi. By the way, what has she done to be elected president - senator of NY - nothing whoopi do! What did she do there. Secretary of State - nothing that was worth a crap. The Dems will nominate anyone who is a lefty - which she is.

I am done with the Clintons and Bushes - Ready for a fresh new face - that person is Scott Walker.
While going about it the wrong way, I think Albany is correct (as much as it pains me) that Hillary will win. He as much said she was a bad candidate but, was voting for her anyway. That will be what most Dems/Libs will do. Couple that with the fact that she will be the first woman president and some will jump ship from the republican side just to see it happen. This is not much different in mentality that helped Obama win along with the liberal media (that was for you Albany with respects of course) favor returned.
 

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Originally posted by warrior-cat:
Originally posted by CATS1945:
Your candidate, Hillary is going to get grilled over Benghazi. By the way, what has she done to be elected president - senator of NY - nothing whoopi do! What did she do there. Secretary of State - nothing that was worth a crap. The Dems will nominate anyone who is a lefty - which she is.

I am done with the Clintons and Bushes - Ready for a fresh new face - that person is Scott Walker.
While going about it the wrong way, I think Albany is correct (as much as it pains me) that Hillary will win. He as much said she was a bad candidate but, was voting for her anyway. That will be what most Dems/Libs will do. Couple that with the fact that she will be the first woman president and some will jump ship from the republican side just to see it happen. This is not much different in mentality that helped Obama win along with the liberal media (that was for you Albany with respects of course) favor returned.
I don't agree with a lot of your opinions, but I do enjoy reading your posts and respect your observations from your travels (I do hope you believe that)
 

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Originally posted by Rex Kwon Do:

Originally posted by Deeeefense:
I would rather see both sides come together on a massive infrastructure bill
I thought we di.....you know what, ne'er mind.

I caught a few minutes of SNL's "best of the 90's" a few weeks ago, it's on every so often. Obv politics of the lefty variety is important to them, whatever. They talked about the Clinton/GHWB race of course and there was a Weekend Update segment where they discussed Clinton's plans for infrastructure, the middle class, blarghhhhh.

I think we could drop a trillion dollars a year for the next two decades and people like you on the left would still clamor for infrastructure, middle class, tax the rich, health care, environment, blacks, gays, seniors, (insert dividable class here), transgenders, Halliburton, Cheney, oil, windmills, buzzword, climate warming, blargh, kids, education, blargh.

It isn't ever going to be enough. Y'all have your talking points and narratives, it will not ever change.
and you got all of that out of one sentense suggesting we fix our crumbling infrastruce?
my my but you have a vivid immagination.
 

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This post was edited on 2/3 5:44 PM by stable31
 

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Originally posted by stable31:

This post was edited on 2/3 5:44 PM by stable31
(to the tune of "America, F___ Yeah!")
Herman Cain, f-yeah!
Going to trim, the muthatouching bills down!
Herman Cain, f-yeah!
Brevity is the only way, yeah!

"That's why I am only going to allow small bills-three pages," he explained. "You'll have time to read that one over the dinner table. What does Herman Cain, President Cain talking about in this particular bill?"
 

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Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:


Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

Originally posted by CATS1945:
Your candidate, Hillary is going to get grilled over Benghazi. By the way, what has she done to be elected president - senator of NY - nothing whoopi do! What did she do there. Secretary of State - nothing that was worth a crap. The Dems will nominate anyone who is a lefty - which she is.

I am done with the Clintons and Bushes - Ready for a fresh new face - that person is Scott Walker.
Correction: she SHOULD get absolutely skewered with Benghazi questions. But she wont.

However had it been a GOP candidate in charge of that debacle and subsequent attempted coverup - theyd be unelectable for the next 500 years.
W was in charge of the country and a big portion knew there were no WMDs or Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, but Bush still won his next election.

So your point is rather invalid.
This is a Public Service Announcement for those whose history books only mention that Kelly Clarkson won the 1st American Idol, and believe that "Bush lied about WMDs and didn't ask Congress for approval"---


For many YEARS Democrats said that Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction. Don't take my word for it... see youtube for actual 1990's video footage of it coming right out of the mouths of Bill, Hillary, Gore, Kerry, Edwards, Reid, Pelosi, etc.

For the chronologically-challenged, these statements were made BEFORE W. Bush was Prez.


The DEMOCRAT-led Senate voted 77-23 for a war powers resolution negotiated between the White House and congressional leaders backing a possible use of force to rid Iraq of suspected weapons of mass destruction and possibly oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.


The Republican-led House passed it 296-133.



Also, Bush SR. asked for (and received) approval from Congress for Operation Desert Storm in 1991. Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate at the time.
 
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Originally posted by warrior-cat:

While going about it the wrong way, I think Albany is correct (as much as it pains me) that Hillary will win.
I'm slowly starting to realize that I may be out of touch, and that my worldview has become a minority in this country. But I think these things are still cyclical, and that the pendulum will swing back to the conservative side this next presidential election. Couple that with the fact that Hillary is not a good candidate to start with, and the real race will be during the Republican primary.

As long as the GOP doesn't split (which is possible), I think the next president will be a republican. It's in Hillary's best interest to have a 3rd party candidate, in which case she will be the 1st female POTUS.

IMHO.
 

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Dumb question, and I have zero intention of wading into that thread......aren't the people/kids that haven't been vaccinated against measles the only ones at risk? Everyone is going bananas, but aren't the 99% of us that have been vaccinated safe from it? How are these people contracting it if odds are they were vaccinated? Is the vaccine just not very good? Just curious and I admit I'm not well read on the topic...

I'll give a Paddock Dollar to anyone who will get me up to speed in an honest, non-political manner....again, not reading that thread.
 
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Originally posted by dezyDeco:

Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:



Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:


Originally posted by CATS1945:
Your candidate, Hillary is going to get grilled over Benghazi. By the way, what has she done to be elected president - senator of NY - nothing whoopi do! What did she do there. Secretary of State - nothing that was worth a crap. The Dems will nominate anyone who is a lefty - which she is.

I am done with the Clintons and Bushes - Ready for a fresh new face - that person is Scott Walker.
Correction: she SHOULD get absolutely skewered with Benghazi questions. But she wont.

However had it been a GOP candidate in charge of that debacle and subsequent attempted coverup - theyd be unelectable for the next 500 years.
W was in charge of the country and a big portion knew there were no WMDs or Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, but Bush still won his next election.

So your point is rather invalid.
This is a Public Service Announcement for those whose history books only mention that Kelly Clarkson won the 1st American Idol, and believe that "Bush lied about WMDs and didn't ask Congress for approval"---



For many YEARS Democrats said that Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction. Don't take my word for it... see youtube for actual 1990's video footage of it coming right out of the mouths of Bill, Hillary, Gore, Kerry, Edwards, Reid, Pelosi, etc.

For the chronologically-challenged, these statements were made BEFORE W. Bush was Prez.



The DEMOCRAT-led Senate voted 77-23 for a war powers resolution negotiated between the White House and congressional leaders backing a possible use of force to rid Iraq of suspected weapons of mass destruction and possibly oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.



The Republican-led House passed it 296-133.




Also, Bush SR. asked for (and received) approval from Congress for Operation Desert Storm in 1991. Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate at the time.
The real reason Dem candidates couldn't hammer Bush on it, was because they all voted for it too. Remember the famous Kerry line: "I was for it before I was against it".
 

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As our President touts the notion that climate change is the world's most significant future problem, the Iranians are inching closer to nuclear missle capability unabated, the Obama Regime continues to undermine the Israeli Prime Minister's election efforts, and the 7th century savages of ISIS continue their campaign of fear and destruction across the Middle East by burning a Jordanian pilot alive while caged like an animal. I forced myself to watch the video to remind myself of the evil we're dealing with.....very disturbing --- and very infuriating.
 

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Bush was looking for any excuse to attack Iraq. The "intelligence" was propped up to give him an excuse.
 

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Originally posted by BlueManToo:

As our President touts the notion that climate change is the world's most significant future problem, the Iranians are inching closer to nuclear missle capability unabated, the Obama Regime continues to undermine the Israeli Prime Minister's election efforts, and the 7th century savages of ISIS continue their campaign of fear and destruction across the Middle East by burning a Jordanian pilot alive while caged like an animal. I forced myself to watch the video to remind myself of the evil we're dealing with.....very disturbing --- and very infuriating.
What are your thoughts on America?

Divert! Divert! Divert!

Meanwhile, the imbeciles are literally stealing your **** because imbeciles keep voting for that to happen again and again and again and again...Maybe the next imbecile will fill in this humongous hole we keep digging! He said he would change things! Let's vote for this imbecile!!! He promised he would help!! He's such a nice guy!!
 
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Originally posted by Chuckinden:
Bush was looking for any excuse to attack Iraq. The "intelligence" was propped up to give him an excuse.
War for oil. Finished daddy's job.

Just thought I'd go ahead and throw those cliches out there to save you from your next post.
 

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Originally posted by Chuckinden:
Bush was looking for any excuse to attack Iraq. The "intelligence" was propped up to give him an excuse.
Bush sure should've taken the Clinton Administration's "intelligence" with a grain of salt.
 

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Originally posted by jamo0001:
Broke down and watched the ISIS video of that pilot's death.

These guys are a unique brand.
UNIQUE? That is what call them? I now am worried about your views.
 

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Mashburned.....Not sure exactly how to take your question, but everything in the post you quoted directly pertains to American safety and sovereignty. Just recently, it was reported that the Iranians were developing a nuclear missle delivery system that could reach US shores (not to mention the obvious concern as it relates to Israel); Obama sticking his nose in the Israeli Prime Minister election threatens to unseat the only true statesman in the free world who has a set of cahones with regard to terrorism and ISIS --- Obama's fingerprints would yet again be all over ANOTHER regime change (ALL of which have resulted in further destabilization in the Mid East); and the rise of ISIS shouldn't need an explanation as it relates to American interests.

That said, we are in agreement that we have mostly idiots running this nation elected by far too many useful idiots who go to the ballot box.

Sad state of affairs our nation now finds herself in :-/
 

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Originally posted by BlueManToo:
Mashburned.....Not sure exactly how to take your question, but everything in the post you quoted directly pertains to American safety and sovereignty. Just recently, it was reported that the Iranians were developing a nuclear missle delivery system that could reach US shores (not to mention the obvious concern as it relates to Israel); Obama sticking his nose in the Israeli Prime Minister election threatens to unseat the only true statesman in the free world who has a set of cahones with regard to terrorism and ISIS --- Obama's fingerprints would yet again be all over ANOTHER regime change (ALL of which have resulted in further destabilization in the Mid East); and the rise of ISIS shouldn't need an explanation as it relates to American interests.

That said, we are in agreement that we have mostly idiots running this nation elected by far too many useful idiots who go to the ballot box.

Sad state of affairs our nation now finds herself in :-/
Seriously, if you want to go fight the Iranians, then go join the Israeli army. We have zero need to go to war with Iran, regardless if they have nukes or not.

Good for Obama to work with the international community to find a peaceful solution for Iran to use nuclear energy. If the Israelis have a problem with it, as a country, we should just shut off the aid we provide that welfare state.

Bibi is an *** and is doing what he can to have the US fight his wars. I think most Americans are smart enough to see though all his BS. We ain't going to war with Iran and we ain't going to assist any strike on Iran.
 

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AlbanyWildCat.......I don't recall ever stating that the US should go to war with Iran --- but the option should not be taken off the table from a political leverage standpoint. Sanctions were beginning to have an effect on Iran, and what does this administration do? They loosen sanctions, and have made it abundantly clear that new or strengthened sanctions are off the table, along with any peaceful political leverage we might have had as a result. If you honestly believe that the Iranians are seeking nuclear enrichment capabilities for peaceful purposes, I have some ocean front property in Kansas I'd love to discuss selling to you.

As for Bibi, he has demonstrated more integrity, leadership, and fortitude in dealing with the problems that plague Israel and the Middle East than our feckless President could ever hope to muster. Make no mistake: there is no '2 State Solution' in Israel....the only solution that will ever appease the Palestinians is a '1 State Solution', and that solution does not include an Israel. If Obama was half the leader and statesman that Netanyahu is, I doubt America and the Middle East would be in the dangerous situation it now finds itself. Quite literally, EVERY foreign policy move this administration has made in the ME has been exactly wrong, and has resulted in a powder keg that teeters on the brink of erupting.

We could have a discussion about the amount of foreign aid we hemorrhage to other countries, which is fair game. That said, if we're talking about cutting foreign aid expenditures, I'd rather start with cutting off the multiplied billions we funnel to Middle Eastern regimes that hate our guts (and who Obama seems to covet the approval of) before cutting off aid to the only reliable ally we have in the region.


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Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:

Originally posted by BlueManToo:
Mashburned.....Not sure exactly how to take your question, but everything in the post you quoted directly pertains to American safety and sovereignty. Just recently, it was reported that the Iranians were developing a nuclear missle delivery system that could reach US shores (not to mention the obvious concern as it relates to Israel); Obama sticking his nose in the Israeli Prime Minister election threatens to unseat the only true statesman in the free world who has a set of cahones with regard to terrorism and ISIS --- Obama's fingerprints would yet again be all over ANOTHER regime change (ALL of which have resulted in further destabilization in the Mid East); and the rise of ISIS shouldn't need an explanation as it relates to American interests.

That said, we are in agreement that we have mostly idiots running this nation elected by far too many useful idiots who go to the ballot box.

Sad state of affairs our nation now finds herself in :-/
Seriously, if you want to go fight the Iranians, then go join the Israeli army. We have zero need to go to war with Iran, regardless if they have nukes or not.

Good for Obama to work with the international community to find a peaceful solution for Iran to use nuclear energy. If the Israelis have a problem with it, as a country, we should just shut off the aid we provide that welfare state.

Bibi is an *** and is doing what he can to have the US fight his wars. I think most Americans are smart enough to see though all his BS. We ain't going to war with Iran and we ain't going to assist any strike on Iran.
You need to go back under your rock.

Obama is searching so badly for something,anything for his legacy that he is willing to throw all our allies under the bus. Iran is not serious about a deal, they are playing Obama like a fiddle and only a blind liberal supporter can not see this.
 

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Originally posted by KyFaninNC:

Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:

Originally posted by BlueManToo:
Mashburned.....Not sure exactly how to take your question, but everything in the post you quoted directly pertains to American safety and sovereignty. Just recently, it was reported that the Iranians were developing a nuclear missle delivery system that could reach US shores (not to mention the obvious concern as it relates to Israel); Obama sticking his nose in the Israeli Prime Minister election threatens to unseat the only true statesman in the free world who has a set of cahones with regard to terrorism and ISIS --- Obama's fingerprints would yet again be all over ANOTHER regime change (ALL of which have resulted in further destabilization in the Mid East); and the rise of ISIS shouldn't need an explanation as it relates to American interests.

That said, we are in agreement that we have mostly idiots running this nation elected by far too many useful idiots who go to the ballot box.

Sad state of affairs our nation now finds herself in :-/
Seriously, if you want to go fight the Iranians, then go join the Israeli army. We have zero need to go to war with Iran, regardless if they have nukes or not.

Good for Obama to work with the international community to find a peaceful solution for Iran to use nuclear energy. If the Israelis have a problem with it, as a country, we should just shut off the aid we provide that welfare state.

Bibi is an *** and is doing what he can to have the US fight his wars. I think most Americans are smart enough to see though all his BS. We ain't going to war with Iran and we ain't going to assist any strike on Iran.
You need to go back under your rock.

Obama is searching so badly for something,anything for his legacy that he is willing to throw all our allies under the bus. Iran is not serious about a deal, they are playing Obama like a fiddle and only a blind liberal supporter can not see this.
Yeah, keep defending our "ally"...glad to see our national interests are more important to you. You're a real American.

And don't mind our intelligence and the Mossad's intelligence that bombing Iran is the only surefire way to ensure the Iranians will develop nukes ASAP. Both have said that continuing to work through diplomacy is the best avenue. But hey, you're a douche and you know more...amitie?

Or is it your hatred for all things Obama...I feel like I am getting warmer.

 

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Originally posted by BlueManToo:
AlbanyWildCat.......I don't recall ever stating that the US should go to war with Iran --- but the option should not be taken off the table from a political leverage standpoint. Sanctions were beginning to have an effect on Iran, and what does this administration do? They loosen sanctions, and have made it abundantly clear that new or strengthened sanctions are off the table, along with any peaceful political leverage we might have had as a result. If you honestly believe that the Iranians are seeking nuclear enrichment capabilities for peaceful purposes, I have some ocean front property in Kansas I'd love to discuss selling to you.

As for Bibi, he has demonstrated more integrity, leadership, and fortitude in dealing with the problems that plague Israel and the Middle East than our feckless President could ever hope to muster. Make no mistake: there is no '2 State Solution' in Israel....the only solution that will ever appease the Palestinians is a '1 State Solution', and that solution does not include an Israel. If Obama was half the leader and statesman that Netanyahu is, I doubt America and the Middle East would be in the dangerous situation it now finds itself. Quite literally, EVERY foreign policy move this administration has made in the ME has been exactly wrong, and has resulted in a powder keg that teeters on the brink of erupting.

We could have a discussion about the amount of foreign aid we hemorrhage to other countries, which is fair game. That said, if we're talking about cutting foreign aid expenditures, I'd rather start with cutting off the multiplied billions we funnel to Middle Eastern regimes that hate our guts (and who Obama seems to covet the approval of) before cutting off aid to the only reliable ally we have in the region.


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We aren't going to war with Iran...we aren't going to bomb Iran...and we aren't going to allow Israel to bomb Iran. Even dumbass W wouldn't allow for that to happen and that was Israeli's best opportunity for assistance.

Cut off all aid to all countries...our country can waste that money much better.

And seriously, you're boy Bibi would be over here blowing Obama if Israel's precious aid was cut off. It is what it is...a welfare state - not an ally.

I'm sincerely proud of Obama to give Israel the huge middle finger it deserves...and Obama still get 90% of the Jewish of the US vote...because most Jews in the US hate the BS the Bibi is constantly trying to pull.

How many years now has Israel been saying they are going to bomb Iran? 10+ 15+....lots of talk and nothing.
 

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Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:

Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:

Originally posted by BlueManToo:
Mashburned.....Not sure exactly how to take your question, but everything in the post you quoted directly pertains to American safety and sovereignty. Just recently, it was reported that the Iranians were developing a nuclear missle delivery system that could reach US shores (not to mention the obvious concern as it relates to Israel); Obama sticking his nose in the Israeli Prime Minister election threatens to unseat the only true statesman in the free world who has a set of cahones with regard to terrorism and ISIS --- Obama's fingerprints would yet again be all over ANOTHER regime change (ALL of which have resulted in further destabilization in the Mid East); and the rise of ISIS shouldn't need an explanation as it relates to American interests.

That said, we are in agreement that we have mostly idiots running this nation elected by far too many useful idiots who go to the ballot box.

Sad state of affairs our nation now finds herself in :-/
Seriously, if you want to go fight the Iranians, then go join the Israeli army. We have zero need to go to war with Iran, regardless if they have nukes or not.

Good for Obama to work with the international community to find a peaceful solution for Iran to use nuclear energy. If the Israelis have a problem with it, as a country, we should just shut off the aid we provide that welfare state.

Bibi is an *** and is doing what he can to have the US fight his wars. I think most Americans are smart enough to see though all his BS. We ain't going to war with Iran and we ain't going to assist any strike on Iran.
You need to go back under your rock.

Obama is searching so badly for something,anything for his legacy that he is willing to throw all our allies under the bus. Iran is not serious about a deal, they are playing Obama like a fiddle and only a blind liberal supporter can not see this.
Yeah, keep defending our "ally"...glad to see our national interests are more important to you. You're a real American.

And don't mind our intelligence and the Mossad's intelligence that bombing Iran is the only surefire way to ensure the Iranians will develop nukes ASAP. Both have said that continuing to work through diplomacy is the best avenue. But hey, you're a douche and you know more...amitie?

Or is it your hatred for all things Obama...I feel like I am getting warmer.

Kurds ask for weapons to fight ISIS, Obama says NO

Ukraine asks for weapons to fight Russian invasion,Obama says NO

Jordan asks for weapons to help fight ISIS, Obama says NO

Syrian rebels friendly to the west asks for weapons to fight Asad, OBama says NO

Iran asks for extension of deadline after deadline, Obama says YES. Build your nukes while we talk for years.

And no, I do not despise Obama , the man and father. I despise Obama the far left liberal policies he has. There is a difference, but you would never know that. You would support the worst terrorist alive if he said he was a democrat.
 

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Mexican drug cartels ask for weapons to murder US citizens, Obama says yes.


Also, weren't we smuggling weapons to the Syrian rebels? I know what difference does it make and those kinds of things, but isn't that why we were in Benghazi?
 

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Originally posted by Bill Cosby:

Mexican drug cartels ask for weapons to murder US citizens,
Those are entrepreneurial freedom fighters standing up to american imperialism....bigot.

/LEK & FUZZ
 

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Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Kurds ask for weapons to fight ISIS, Obama says NO


Ukraine asks for weapons to fight Russian invasion,Obama says NO

Jordan asks for weapons to help fight ISIS, Obama says NO

Syrian rebels friendly to the west asks for weapons to fight Asad, OBama says NO

Iran asks for extension of deadline after deadline, Obama says YES. Build your nukes while we talk for years.

And no, I do not despise Obama , the man and father. I despise Obama the far left liberal policies he has. There is a difference, but you would never know that. You would support the worst terrorist alive if he said he was a democrat.
You're right - I'm sorry....we should freely give our weapons to those that want them...like Bush did with arming the Iraqis (after we invaded the country with now determined false "intelligence").

Maybe you can help me with this one since you are so brilliant, how does ISIS keep getting US weapons. I mean, they are rolling around in armored humvees, tanks, artillery. I mean, I would think we should do everything in our power to stop the individuals or countries that are arming ISIS?

Don't you agree?

 

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LOL at Brian Williams. Him and Hilary. True war heroes.
 

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Originally posted by AlbanyWildCat:

You're right - I'm sorry....we should freely give our weapons to those that want them...like Bush did with arming the Iraqis (after we invaded the country with now determined false "intelligence").

Again, Bush shouldn't have relied on any of the Clinton Administration's "intelligence"... since we all know they were heavy on the Saddam-has-WMDs rhetoric back then. Wonder what changed?

Nevertheless, you express doubts about the certitude of intelligence reports, but a couple posts earlier you stated:

"And don't mind our intelligence and the Mossad's intelligence that bombing Iran is the only surefire way to ensure the Iranians will develop nukes ASAP. Both have said that continuing to work through diplomacy is the best avenue. But hey, you're a douche and you know more...amitie?"

Go figure.



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Originally posted by Rex Kwon Do:
Dumb question, and I have zero intention of wading into that thread......aren't the people/kids that haven't been vaccinated against measles the only ones at risk? Everyone is going bananas, but aren't the 99% of us that have been vaccinated safe from it? How are these people contracting it if odds are they were vaccinated? Is the vaccine just not very good? Just curious and I admit I'm not well read on the topic...

I'll give a Paddock Dollar to anyone who will get me up to speed in an honest, non-political manner....again, not reading that thread.
1) vaccination is not necessarily 100% effective, especially for people with compromised immune systems or those too young for the vaccine; 2) not everyone can get vaccinated (medical reasons), and those people have to rely on herd immunity; 3) immunization is not spread evenly or randomly, and there tend to be pockets of low immunization rates where outbreaks occur; and 4) if herd immunity requires, say, 95% of the total population to be immunized, then a higher proportion of those who can be immunized must be to achieve herd immunity.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/02/03/why-a-few-unvaccinated-children-are-an-even-bigger-threat-than-you-think/
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Originally posted by wkycatfan:

Originally posted by Bill Cosby:

LOL at Brian Williams. Him and Hilary. True war heroes.
This will be pretty difficult for Brian Williams to recover from IMO.
Why? They're not held to any sort of standard.

If anything, this qualifies Williams as a suitable running mate for Hillary "I-dodged-sniper-fire-in-Bosnia" Clinton.
 

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Originally posted by wkycatfan:
Originally posted by Bill Cosby:

LOL at Brian Williams. Him and Hilary. True war heroes.
This will be pretty difficult for Brian Williams to recover from IMO.
Are you being serious?
 

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If it were Brit Hume, then, yes, it would be hard to recover from. But Brian Williams is in the club; therefore, he is immune from lasting damage. The NYT has already covered for him, labeling the lie a "mistake." It's already over.
 
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Obama has negotiated against himself in the Iran talks the entire time. It's embarrassing.

Msm has already started the Brian Williams apology tour On his behalf. Because it's easy to be mistaken about whether you were shot down in a helicopter or not.....right?
 
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