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[Catfan in Tn.]

Anna Paulina Luna refers Tim Walz and AG Keith Ellison for criminal charges: 'May justice be swift' | Blaze Media

Walz has already decided against running for a third term after the damaging allegations arose.

www.theblaze.com

 

[UKbrassowTipIn93]

 

[Fanon]

This.

She has orphaned kids bc for whatever reason a white woman decided she needed to protest in support of wide spread fraud

And yes, these ppl throw **** all over these agents...theyre putting these agents under extreme stress, so dont be surprised when something plays out

She is not protesting "in support of wide spread fraud" and you know it. She's protesting the Trump administration giving ICE almost 30 billion dollars to storm our communities.

 

[JumperJack.]

I was thinking along those lines as well. Perhaps getting in front he was thinking she would not possibly pull forward. He should have known better since he had already been in an incident about 6 months earlier where he was dragged by a car for a bit. It also looks in one angle as if he might have been able to get out or the way. However, at another angle, his leg was clipped as she drove forward. Given he had already had an incident where he was injured pretty good, his mindset was probably in self-defense mode to avoid another situation like the first one.

He came around from the other side and you have to wonder how aware she was of him. Nevertheless, she backed up first and had to have seen him when she started forward.

 

[JumperJack.]

This is for every idiot here who called what happened a murder. You know who you are.

 

[Fanon]

Dont throw **** at agents, dont impede their progress, follow commands, dont pit them under extreme stress

Dont put yourself in a position as a "white liberal savior" when ppl are just doing their jobs based on the law and defend widespread fraud bc...racism or whatever.

Ask your party why they dont legislate and chsnge law of they dont like it

Ashley babbit fd around and found out bc she was somewhere she shouldn't have been, so was this lady thinking she was a hero at Tiananmen Square. Go to work and go home to your kids. Seriously give one good reason why she had her car blocking the road

Whether you agree with her or not, she didn't deserve to be executed. Same as Ashli Babbitt. (There were guys standing around with long guns. There were myriad different ways to stop Babbitt without just blasting her. A legal shoot is not necessarily a moral one. But yet my logical and ideological consistency and lack of blind partisanship win me absolutely nothing around here.)

This is not the country we want to be.

 

[ScrewDuke1]

Sick SOBs

 

[Fanon]

Im not using it as pejorative. Im using it as why on earth does somali fraud have to do with her?

Also, its always liberal white women that are the worst. They are the ones that call everything racist for black ppl instead of black ppl. Understand?

In fact, the entire reason the govt in Minneapolis refused to do anything is bc they didn't want to be called racist, not bc it wasnt there

Sending armed agents into our communities affects us all. As we've obviously seen. A woman was just shot and killed. Blaming her instead of the administration perpetrating these things is sad.

 

[UKbrassowTipIn93]

Ill say it again. This story will be gone by the weekend. Ppl have eyes and can see the video plus the woman wasnt black or an immigrant - which is all democrats care about anyway

 

[Fanon]

Consistency, eh? I don’t remember you screaming about how Byrd should be criminally prosecuted like you have with this ice officer.

I did. I even said he should be prosecuted despite it probably being a legal shoot. It was egregious. I'll try to find the posts.

Ok I stopped after so many. There are more. Look at the dates on them too. Over years:

It does. Ashli Babbitt shouldn't've been shot on Jan 6th either, despite what she was doing. Our enforcement agencies are out of control at every level of government and need massive reform and oversight. So let's quit calling it a partisan problem and work together to rein in law enforcement.

No I've said repeatedly I don't really care about the actions of the mob on Jan 6th, up to and including calling out the wrongful killing of Ashli Babbitt. The issue arises from what they were there to disrupt, the peaceful transfer of power in a presidential election, not grannies walking through the Capitol. Poop is easy to clean out of the People's House, a fascist putsch may not be.

What? I was talking about y'all, not me. See George Floyd and Ashli Babbitt. Or Jason Kloepfer. I'm consistent regardless of race. Y'all aren't.

As I've repeatedly stated the civil disobedience on Jan 6th wasn't the issue. Trump's organization of, production of, and attempt to acknowledge fake electors in a plot to overthrow our Constitution and country was the issue. The mob at the Capitol was just one minor part of that. For instance I've always maintained Ashli Babbitt shouldn't've been shot. My posting history on all these issues is extremely consistent.

I'm on record here consistently condemning the police brutality killing of Ashli Babbitt from the minute it happened. Even though it was a legal shoot and she was a MAGA fanatic turd. It should not have happened, she could have been restrained through nonviolent means and never should have been shot. You're projection about about partisan moral compasses and inconsistent values may apply to plenty of liberals, but that ain't me. You seem to be legitimately new here(if you're not just another Willy cosplay), but you'll learn.

Well next time the government uses excessive force on righties I'll be right there protesting it along with y'all, just like I was with Ruby Ridge, Waco, and even Ashli Babbitt. Rarely is that favor ever returned though, many of the same people on here who defend Jan 6ers call for outlawing socialism/communism. You can see how it's taxing.

People on the left with the same winner-take-all mentality y'all on the right justify your bs with. Those who support the shooting of Ashli Babbitt. And there are many. This thread gets little ol' me who condemns police brutality across the spectrum, but many would be willing to let it slide if it's turned on y'all too now instead of always them.

I support the people. I don’t view y’all’s Jan 6th riot as particularly egregious either in terms of on-the-ground actions. Ashli Babbitt shouldn’t’ve been killed. The issue wasn’t the actions, but the aims. It was a show of force requested by Trump to try to keep him in power after losing an election. This is a protest against police brutality. This is peaceful protest. Nobody wants it to get to the point where there is violent resistance. Like Ireland.

I'm not unconcerned. There were definitely feds in that crowd. Half of every militia in the US is feds(that's a joke btw, don't quote that %). Ashli Babbitt didn't need to be shot, it was not some insane violent riot. I'm not a lib or a reactionary. It was many working class people who truly believed what Donald Trump was telling them about the election and their country. He was lying to them and trying to unconstitutionally retain power. For himself. The rich and powerful have been lying to the people for all of history. Trump is another in the long line, not some savior bucking the trend.

We've been over this repeatedly, but it was a plan B to get Pence whisked away from the scene in a secure vehicle due to the threat so Senate Pro Tempore Chuck Grassley could do it. Hence the "Hang Mike Pence!" chants. Nobody was actually going to hang Mike Pence on the steps of the Capitol, it was manufactured drama. We've also been over repeatedly the fact that the riot on Jan 6th really wasn't that big a deal. If Ashli Babbitt and Michael Byrd had chilled just a tad it would've been mostly bloodless. Just like today's protest isn't a big deal. The big deal was trying to overthrow our Constitution and disrupt the over two century peaceful transfer of power by getting your VP to muck with the counting of the Electoral College votes. The Jan 6th riot was just one minor part of that.

My personal favorite that's short and sweet:

I try to stand on principle, even when it’s personally inconvenient. That’s how I end up defending the likes of Ashli Babbitt.

Additional edit to add absolute direct proof, since I did manage to find it:

You think that Byrd should be prosecuted for, at least, manslaughter, if not murder?

I mean morally? Yes. Legally? Probably couldn't get a conviction because as they said, he was directly defending members of Congress. Pretty much guaranteed to be a legal shoot, regardless of the individual circumstances.

 

[UKbrassowTipIn93]

 

[FireMitch1996]

Whether you agree with her or not, she didn't deserve to be executed. Same as Ashli Babbitt. (There were guys standing around with long guns. There were myriad different ways to stop Babbitt without just blasting her. A legal shoot is not necessarily a moral one. But yet my logical and ideological consistency and lack of blind partisanship win me absolutely nothing around here.)

This is not the country we want to be.

i think defending your own life while someone who’s clearly mentally unstable & threatening your life is exactly the country most of us want to be in. Sick & tired of the lawlessness & people thinking they are above the law in a civilized country.

 

[UK_BlueBlood]

She is not protesting "in support of wide spread fraud" and you know it. She's protesting the Trump administration giving ICE almost 30 billion dollars to storm our communities.

Incorrect. She wasn't protesting. Protesting means peacefully voicing your views in opposition to something to which you object.

She was purposefully obstructing a law enforcement operation, disobeying the orders of a law enforcement officer, and driving her vehicle in a manner that threatened the life of a law enforcement officer which forced him to defend himself.

Stop calling her a protester. The second she got actively involved in obstructing justice and threatening law enforcement through her actions, she ceased to be a protester.

 

[UK_BlueBlood]

Sending armed agents into our communities affects us all. As we've obviously seen. A woman was just shot and killed. Blaming her instead of the administration perpetrating these things is sad.

One more time. These fools have no business trying to interfere with law enforcement operations. They put themselves in jeopardy with these actions. They are more than welcome to disagree with the laws that ICE is enforcing, and their appropriate recourse is to seek to change the law... end of story. So yes, it is indeed her fault.

 

[UKbrassowTipIn93]

Inciting violence...the leftwing way

 

[JumperJack.]

This will impact quite a few immigrants, but the illegals and their remittances won’t really be touched, since they get cash under the table and their benefits come in the form of things like using Emergency Rooms as health care, etc.

 

[UKbrassowTipIn93]

 

[JumperJack.]

It’s a battle that will determine the fate of this Republic.

 

[Anon1761688510]

Pretty sure that’s becasue the state has no jurisdiction over federal officers who are operating in the line of duty, educator.

You MAGAs would cheer a dump on your head from your lunatic king.

Is this part of DOGE??

Trump admin reportedly considers paying each Greenland resident up to $100K amid US takeover talks

Trump administration reportedly considering paying Greenland residents $10,000-$100,000 each to encourage secession from Denmark for U.S. acquisition.

www.foxnews.com

 

[JumperJack.]

 

[UKbrassowTipIn93]

 

[JumperJack.]

You MAGAs would cheer a dump on your head from your lunatic king.

Is this part of DOGE??

Trump admin reportedly considers paying each Greenland resident up to $100K amid US takeover talks

Trump administration reportedly considering paying Greenland residents $10,000-$100,000 each to encourage secession from Denmark for U.S. acquisition.

www.foxnews.com

I take it that you now understand why you were wrong about who has the jurisdiction to investigate.

So now it’s Greenland. Or something.

 

[UK_BlueBlood]

Inciting violence...the leftwing way

This is why there is no hope of bridging the divide with these people. Whenever things don't go their way, their solution is to just seek to kill the opposition. For them, it's literally either agree with them, or die. Trump - 2 attempted assassinations. Charlie Kirk - assassinated. JD Vance - home attacked... who knows if this was intended to be an attempt on his life. Now they call for the deaths of Kristy Noem and ICE agents.

 

[JumperJack.]

It does seem like there are a lot of these lunatics but you have to remember: they are paid to do this. This is, in some ways, a last gasp effort to retain the flow of tax dollars to their networks. Cornered animals do seem scary, until you finish them off.

 

[Anon1761688510]

Say his name...Capt. David Dorn. Do I need to remind you who he was? He was an off duty officer who went to protect a friend's store from getting looted when your ilk burned Minneapolis, and he was shot by friends of yours. H ell, maybe you were there.

Say his name...Capt. David Dorn.

Can't say his name until I know whether he was assassinated by a federal agent given free killing rights in the name of a fascist federal government or a rogue US citizen acting entirely on their own outside of government employment??
One is very different from the other.

 

[Anon1761688510]

Story not getting enough press.....trade deficit. Another MAGA boom to the economy.

DOGE???

Trump admin reportedly considers paying each Greenland resident up to $100K amid US takeover talks

Trump administration reportedly considering paying Greenland residents $10,000-$100,000 each to encourage secession from Denmark for U.S. acquisition.

www.foxnews.com

 

[FireMitch1996]

I’ll say it again, I LOVE that the democrats feel like they’re losing the version of their country that they want it to be. It’s unfortunate that the next time we have to fight communism & socialism will be on our home turf. & what a glorious day that will be.

 

[Anon1761688510]

The retards are building barricades

Logical reaction to watching innocent women getting their heads blown off by federal agents.

 

[FireMitch1996]

DOGE???

Trump admin reportedly considers paying each Greenland resident up to $100K amid US takeover talks

Trump administration reportedly considering paying Greenland residents $10,000-$100,000 each to encourage secession from Denmark for U.S. acquisition.

www.foxnews.com

5 billion dollars for a very important strategic land acquisition is actually a steal. But you don’t understand the strategy & are mad because your lord democrats are telling you to be mad.

 

[Fanon]

I take it that you now understand why you were wrong about who has the jurisdiction to investigate.

So now it’s Greenland. Or something.

Jurisdiction or not with something this heinous there should be transparency. Ideally there should always be transparency, but with something like this doubly so.

 

[notFromhere]

Word is .. maybe, can't verify...



More treason if so.

 

[ScrewDuke1]

Suspended? I say give the man a medal for saying that (if this is true)

 

[Fanon]

It does seem like there are a lot of these lunatics but you have to remember: they are paid to do this. This is, in some ways, a last gasp effort to retain the flow of tax dollars to their networks. Cornered animals do seem scary, until you finish them off.

These are your delusions talking. These people are no more paid than I am. They are your fellow countrymen. They just actually care about our country.

 

[notFromhere]

Sick SOBs

Time to J6 Committee arrest and slowly prosecute some TRUE insurrectionists/terrorists threatening LE.

 

[Anon1761688510]

I take it that you now understand why you were wrong about who has the jurisdiction to investigate.

So now it’s Greenland. Or something.

What is highly unusual is for our federal officials to immediately call the victim of this shooting a "domestic terrorist" with zero evidence of that then immediately withhold investigative information from the local police regarding the local victim.

We are attacking foreign nations to plunder oil. Seizing ships at sea like pirates and threatening our NATO allies with land seizures.
If you think anything that is happening right now is normal then I feel sorry for you.

I always wondered how the concentration camps were built and the ghettos were created with no public outcry. Now I know.

Feds Lock Minnesota Out of ICE Shooting Investigation | Military.com

www.military.com

US discussing options to acquire Greenland including using military - White House

It came as European allies rallied behind Denmark, which is pushing back against Trump's ambitions for the Arctic island.

www.bbc.com

US seeks to assert its control over Venezuelan oil with tanker seizures and sales worldwide

President Donald Trump's administration is seeking to assert its control over Venezuelan oil, seizing two sanctioned tankers transporting petroleum and announcing plans to relax some sanctions so the U.S. can oversee the sale of Venezuela’s petroleum worldwide.

apnews.com

 

[ScrewDuke1]

MAGA nut job woman gets killed during an attack on the capital -“prosecute!!! She was murdered in cold blood!!””

Non MAGA gets murdered by ICE Agent - “she deserved it.”

MAGA brains are irreparably broken and can’t be fixed. They’re like pedophiles. It’s a sickness.

Drunk John saying something retarded? Must be a day that ends in 'Y'

 

[JumperJack.]

Can't say his name until I know whether he was assassinated by a federal agent given free killing rights in the name of a fascist federal government or a rogue US citizen acting entirely on their own outside of government employment??

These are lies. Nobody gets shot by ICE unless they try to kill and ICE officer. Glad to clear it up for you.

ICE is carrying out the laws that were written by both democrats and republicans, not Trump.

Why do you resort to lies?

 

[notFromhere]

Why wouldn’t he ask Muslims to wear crosses to show solidarity with Christians?

Maybe he likes his head where it's at? Smell and all

 

[JumperJack.]

Logical reaction to watching innocent women getting their heads blown off by federal agents.

Not innocent. Another lie.

 

[JumperJack.]

5 billion dollars for a very important strategic land acquisition is actually a steal. But you don’t understand the strategy & are mad because your lord democrats are telling you to be mad.

Sam’s the kind of genius that would be mad at William Seward.