Thanks.....Where's the ones based on electoral votes?
Thanks.....Where's the ones based on electoral votes?
What do I post that is leftist?
That's where this is all skewed. Polls consistently showed her leading the popular vote and she did win that. Polls should have been done using an electoral college model.Did they get the popular vote wrong?
Thanks.....Where's the ones based on electoral votes?
Every poll was wrong. That's all the discussion was about countryroads89. Every one. Not one was correct, even the ones that had Trump winning (which a few did)
Point is, they all were wrong. And No, they weren't polling for the popular vote. Show me where that is pointed out in ANY these final polls? Which one had the "popular vote" correct contryroads89?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
That's where this is all skewed. Polls consistently showed her leading the popular vote and she did win that. Polls should have been done using an electoral college model.
I was a Kasich guy and know many Kasich supporters. None of us can stand Biff.Almost everything you post that's anti-Trump.
Strawman. None of that was said by me, Coop, or many others here. She was weak. He is not stupid.Well they didn't and she lost because the winner takes the Electoral College, not the popular vote.
So how come Trump understood that and he's supposed to be so "stupid" according to you folks on the Left yet Hillary missed it after being the "smartest Woman in the world" according to you Leftist adulators?
The link you provided just proved you wrong. It shows the popular vote polls. Do you even understand what you read?
Popular votes don't decide Presidential elections countryroads89.
Do you even understand how we've elected Presidents in this country for the past 200 and more years?
I was a Kasich guy and know many Kasich supporters. None of us can stand Biff.
You can't even stay focused on an argument. Do you have some sort of learning disability?
Same reason I get all my dental advice on SnapChat instead of Twitter.
Finally.Who gives a damn. Anyone think this guy will allow poll numbers and focus groups to influence his directives? Hahahah ok. Polls could be 0% and he is still going to carry out what the people elected him to do.
Strawman. None of that was said by me, Coop, or many others here. She was weak. He is not stupid.
That's where this is all skewed. Polls consistently showed her leading the popular vote and she did win that. Polls should have been done using an electoral college model.
I think you are slightly wrong. The polls did not predict an electoral college winner. Loudmouths used polls for predictions, but the polls themselves were for raw, popular vote numbers and 2016 was a good year for pollsters. Lousy for predictors/aggregators/dbagsI am fairly certain that almost all the polls declared that Hillary Clinton was going to be the next President. Maybe they will change their prediction methodology.
I'm guessing ADHD. You can't stay focused. Maybe this will help.Yes. Can you tell me what this is?
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slanted polling... phony polling
And I don't trust or respect most pollsters because they are almost always wrong no matter who or what they are polling.
It's an easy answer. Poll aggregators like 538, NY Times Upshot, 270 to win all had electoral college predictions. Polls are used in those predictions but are different.You won't get an answer, because he/she/it doesn't have one. Instead you'll likely get this:
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LOL. Everything anti-Trump is now leftist? Classic. No room for debate, disagreements in the GOP/conservatism.Almost everything you post that's anti-Trump.
I think you are slightly wrong. The polls did not predict an electoral college winner. Loudmouths used polls for predictions, but the polls themselves were for raw, popular vote numbers and 2016 was a good year for pollsters. Lousy for predictors/aggregators/dbags
Those were not polls. Those were projections from poll aggregators based on polls. Basically the aggregators (538, Upshot, etc) were the gamblers trying to use KenPom's statistics to bet on March Madness. The aggregators lost their house, but KenPom's stats are still correct.I guess you never saw some of the polls that had her geting more electoral college votes than Trump. many were predicitng a 350 total for Hiliary. Just like tight now and those protests, they aren't going to amount to anything until the next election, if then.
Except I'm not arguing that at all. Apparently you can't tell the difference between polls and predictions. I can't really help you if we can't get past that stumbling block.It just doesn't matter Coop. The polls were wrong. Almost all of them. Popular vote, Electoral College, no matter. They were wrong, wildly wrong. Arguing they got the popular vote correct yet somehow missed the electoral College is just pure sophistry.
Wrong is always wrong, no matter how it's measured.
Who won?
LOL. Everything anti-Trump is now leftist? Classic. No room for debate, disagreements in the GOP/conservatism.
Apparently you can't tell the difference between polls and predictions
When he does something pro taxpayer anti government expansion I will (though I won't be tagging you. That's creepy af). I so, so wish he would have come out of the gates swinging on taxes, jobs, the economy, etc instead of floundering around in travel bans, crying about the media, walls and deportations. I understand he ran on those platforms, but I think he could have built some goodwill by focusing on taxes/jobs.Coop when you post something in favor of Trump or any basic position on the Right that's Pro Taxpayer or anti-Government expansion I'll give you the credit. Tag me in your post when you do OK my Man?
The polls were accurate.Apparently neither can the main stream News Media which was pimping those fake *** polls like it was a fate accompli.
The polls were accurate.
If the Media you adore would stop promoting it's slanted polling as "news" or "fact", maybe we could understand what the American people are really saying when they vote "no" to expanded Government and increased confiscatory taxation.
The Left is losing their argument trying to use it's phony polling to suggest the people don't really know what they're voting for.
It's like going to your Dentist asking him to check you out for Colon cancer.
When he does something pro taxpayer anti government expansion I will (though I won't be tagging you. That's creepy af). I so, so wish he would have come out of the gates swinging on taxes, jobs, the economy, etc instead of floundering around in travel bans, crying about the media, walls and deportations. I understand he ran on those platforms, but I think he could have built some goodwill by focusing on taxes/jobs.
Well, the Dentist could probably figure it out if he dug deep enough.
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The polls were accurate.
countryroads89 would you put your next payday on any of those polls' accuracy?
And what is "THIS" exactly?You won't get an answer, because he/she/it doesn't have one. Instead you'll likely get this:
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The RCP average, the day before the election, had Hillary winning by 3.2 percent. She won the popular vote by about 2.2 percent. That's a pretty good prediction based on the polling and pretty good/accurate polling.
Surely you can comprehend this?
countryroads89 would you put your next payday on any of those polls' accuracy?