Poll: Trump's approval rating continues to dip

atlkvb

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Thanks.....Where's the ones based on electoral votes?

You won't get an answer, because he/she/it doesn't have one. Instead you'll likely get this:

 
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Every poll was wrong. That's all the discussion was about countryroads89. Every one. Not one was correct, even the ones that had Trump winning (which a few did)

Point is, they all were wrong. And No, they weren't polling for the popular vote. Show me where that is pointed out in ANY these final polls? Which one had the "popular vote" correct contryroads89?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

The link you provided just proved you wrong. It shows the popular vote polls. Do you even understand what you read?
 

atlkvb

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That's where this is all skewed. Polls consistently showed her leading the popular vote and she did win that. Polls should have been done using an electoral college model.

Well they didn't and she lost because the winner takes the Electoral College, not the popular vote.

So how come Trump understood that and he's supposed to be so "stupid" according to you folks on the Left yet Hillary missed it after being the "smartest Woman in the world" according to you Leftist adulators?
 

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Well they didn't and she lost because the winner takes the Electoral College, not the popular vote.

So how come Trump understood that and he's supposed to be so "stupid" according to you folks on the Left yet Hillary missed it after being the "smartest Woman in the world" according to you Leftist adulators?
Strawman. None of that was said by me, Coop, or many others here. She was weak. He is not stupid.
 

atlkvb

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The link you provided just proved you wrong. It shows the popular vote polls. Do you even understand what you read?

Popular votes don't decide Presidential elections countryroads89.

Do you even understand how we've elected Presidents in this country for the past 200 and more years?
 
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Popular votes don't decide Presidential elections countryroads89.

Do you even understand how we've elected Presidents in this country for the past 200 and more years?

You can't even stay focused on an argument. Do you have some sort of learning disability?
 

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Who gives a damn. Anyone think this guy will allow poll numbers and focus groups to influence his directives? Hahahah ok. Polls could be 0% and he is still going to carry out what the people elected him to do.
 

atlkvb

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I was a Kasich guy and know many Kasich supporters. None of us can stand Biff.

Whatever. Kasich and Trump both agree Government spends too much and taxes too much.

So when Trump introduces his budget cutting spending and taxes I'm sure you'll be on here posting your approval?
 

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Who gives a damn. Anyone think this guy will allow poll numbers and focus groups to influence his directives? Hahahah ok. Polls could be 0% and he is still going to carry out what the people elected him to do.
Finally.
 

atlkvb

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Strawman. None of that was said by me, Coop, or many others here. She was weak. He is not stupid.

That's not what many of your friends on the Left think or say about him, or thought about her.
 

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That's where this is all skewed. Polls consistently showed her leading the popular vote and she did win that. Polls should have been done using an electoral college model.

I guess you never saw some of the polls that had her geting more electoral college votes than Trump. many were predicitng a 350 total for Hiliary. Just like tight now and those protests, they aren't going to amount to anything until the next election, if then.
 

WVUCOOPER

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I am fairly certain that almost all the polls declared that Hillary Clinton was going to be the next President. Maybe they will change their prediction methodology.
I think you are slightly wrong. The polls did not predict an electoral college winner. Loudmouths used polls for predictions, but the polls themselves were for raw, popular vote numbers and 2016 was a good year for pollsters. Lousy for predictors/aggregators/dbags
 
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Yes. Can you tell me what this is?


I'm guessing ADHD. You can't stay focused. Maybe this will help.

slanted polling... phony polling

And I don't trust or respect most pollsters because they are almost always wrong no matter who or what they are polling.

Yet we showed they were spot on with the polls on the popular votes.

In conclusion, you are mad as hell because your adored Trump is unpopular and polling around a 40% favorable rating, worst in history, and more Americans trust the media than Trump.
 

WVUCOOPER

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You won't get an answer, because he/she/it doesn't have one. Instead you'll likely get this:

It's an easy answer. Poll aggregators like 538, NY Times Upshot, 270 to win all had electoral college predictions. Polls are used in those predictions but are different.
 

atlkvb

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I think you are slightly wrong. The polls did not predict an electoral college winner. Loudmouths used polls for predictions, but the polls themselves were for raw, popular vote numbers and 2016 was a good year for pollsters. Lousy for predictors/aggregators/dbags

It just doesn't matter Coop. The polls were wrong. Almost all of them. Popular vote, Electoral College, no matter. They were wrong, wildly wrong. Arguing they got the popular vote correct yet somehow missed the Electoral College is just pure sophistry.

Wrong is always wrong, no matter how it's measured.

Who won?
 
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WVUCOOPER

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I guess you never saw some of the polls that had her geting more electoral college votes than Trump. many were predicitng a 350 total for Hiliary. Just like tight now and those protests, they aren't going to amount to anything until the next election, if then.
Those were not polls. Those were projections from poll aggregators based on polls. Basically the aggregators (538, Upshot, etc) were the gamblers trying to use KenPom's statistics to bet on March Madness. The aggregators lost their house, but KenPom's stats are still correct.
 

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It just doesn't matter Coop. The polls were wrong. Almost all of them. Popular vote, Electoral College, no matter. They were wrong, wildly wrong. Arguing they got the popular vote correct yet somehow missed the electoral College is just pure sophistry.

Wrong is always wrong, no matter how it's measured.

Who won?
Except I'm not arguing that at all. Apparently you can't tell the difference between polls and predictions. I can't really help you if we can't get past that stumbling block.
 

atlkvb

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LOL. Everything anti-Trump is now leftist? Classic. No room for debate, disagreements in the GOP/conservatism.


Coop when you post something in favor of Trump or any basic position on the Right that's Pro Taxpayer or anti-Government expansion I'll give you the credit. Tag me in your post when you do OK my Man?

I think it's just comical how so many folks on the Left (obviously not you Coop) can't even admit or refuse to boldly stand by your Leftist nomenclatures.

Amazing.

I'm not a Democrat, I'm "independent". I'm not a Leftist, I'm "Progressive".


But I'm on the Right, and of course to folks on the Left I'm always a "knuckle dragging Neanderthal" right?

Or a "racist" "sexist" "homophobe"...have I got it about right Coop?
 
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atlkvb

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Apparently you can't tell the difference between polls and predictions

Apparently neither can the main stream News Media which was pimping those fake *** polls like it was a fate accompli.
 

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Coop when you post something in favor of Trump or any basic position on the Right that's Pro Taxpayer or anti-Government expansion I'll give you the credit. Tag me in your post when you do OK my Man?
When he does something pro taxpayer anti government expansion I will (though I won't be tagging you. That's creepy af). I so, so wish he would have come out of the gates swinging on taxes, jobs, the economy, etc instead of floundering around in travel bans, crying about the media, walls and deportations. I understand he ran on those platforms, but I think he could have built some goodwill by focusing on taxes/jobs.
 

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If the Media you adore would stop promoting it's slanted polling as "news" or "fact", maybe we could understand what the American people are really saying when they vote "no" to expanded Government and increased confiscatory taxation.

The Left is losing their argument trying to use it's phony polling to suggest the people don't really know what they're voting for.

It's like going to your Dentist asking him to check you out for Colon cancer.


Well, the Dentist could probably figure it out if he dug deep enough.
 

atlkvb

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When he does something pro taxpayer anti government expansion I will (though I won't be tagging you. That's creepy af). I so, so wish he would have come out of the gates swinging on taxes, jobs, the economy, etc instead of floundering around in travel bans, crying about the media, walls and deportations. I understand he ran on those platforms, but I think he could have built some goodwill by focusing on taxes/jobs.

Coop, he's doing everything he promised. Taxes are coming, budget cuts are coming, jobs are coming. He's only been in Office a month. This isn't a 2 1/2 movie that solves all problems in the World during the matinee showing.

Give it some time my Man, you'll see your issues getting addressed, and I'll be right there with you supporting him (Trump)

Will you be?
 
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countryroads89 would you put your next payday on any of those polls' accuracy?

The RCP average, the day before the election, had Hillary winning by 3.2 percent. She won the popular vote by about 2.2 percent. That's a pretty good prediction based on the polling and pretty good/accurate polling.

Surely you can comprehend this?
 

atlkvb

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The RCP average, the day before the election, had Hillary winning by 3.2 percent. She won the popular vote by about 2.2 percent. That's a pretty good prediction based on the polling and pretty good/accurate polling.

Surely you can comprehend this?

What I "comprehend" countryroads89 and is indisputable fact is that Trump won. He won the prize, and no poll predictive or otherwise (Russians either) can change that fact.

When you folks on the Left finally come to terms with that little stubborn fact, maybe you can start thinking rationally again but so far you've failed that threshold.

Want me to wake you up from your nightmare?
 
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countryroads89 would you put your next payday on any of those polls' accuracy?

The Quinnipiac poll actually had Hillary winning the popular vote by 1% when she actually won by about 2.2%. So, to answer your question (for the 12th time in this thread), yes, they were accurate.

BTW, that same Quinnipiac group is the same one that recently polled and found that only 38% approve of Trump while 55% disapprove.