If it's conservatively principled I will be. I'll be against the populist ********.
Poll: Trump's approval rating continues to dip
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You clearly don't know the difference between a poll and a prediction. Not much sense in arguing if we can't get past that.
countryroads89 a good friend of mine who is a HUGE Georgia Bulldogs fan gave me pure Hell leading up to our Sugar Bowl game against them back in 2006. He kept telling me how we had no chance, how Georgia was going to introduce us to "big boy football SEC style".
He was nauseating.
Day after the game, I meet him at work and the look on his face was priceless. Know what his first words to me were?
"Well, at least we won the second half". As I said he was a good friend and I didn't have the heart to rub our W into his wounded soul (I knew he was taking it hard) so I just laughed at his assertion.
I'm laughing at you now the same way with this ridiculous argument about the polls and their "almost perfect" predictions of the popular vote for Hillary. Georgia lost that game and Hillary lost the election.
You're killing me.[laughing]
You're right. Who cares about "polls" after the fact? I don't.
I didn't even believe them before we voted. Guess what Coop?
I was right.
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countryroads89 if 55% of the people in America disapprove of Trump I'm fairly confident 100% of the folks they (pollsters) missed never had a chance to voice their opinions.
You're obviously hopeful that poll is representative of how the vast majority of Americans view Trump but I can guarantee you that poll is just as inaccurate as all of the rest of them usually are.
But you keep believing them. They don't change the opinions or attitudes of those of us who support Trump 100%. Those polls are meaningless to us in part because we weren't polled.
Polls are usually inaccurate? Wow, all these people doing the polling sure are wasting a lot of time and money.
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No offense but you are too dumb to argue with.
Fine countryroads89...considering your alacrity promulgating stupidity by defining it, I consider that a compliment. I'm following your example my friend.
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Surgical, not ballistic. And the goals in the mission statement must be met and maintained.
The goals of the law need maintained. Who cares about an administrative "we care" statement.
Oh noooo countryroads89. I'm actually quite amused how you and others on the Left are still fighting the election results, and trying to use your discredited polling to convince yourselves Trump's nothing more than a universally hated failure.
News flash. His support among the very same folks whose votes propelled him to victory is as strong as ever. I know you don't like that, but we don't care.
We actually like what he's doing, and what huge knots he's tying you Leftists into.
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I don't know what you're talking about but polls are generally pretty accurate, which is pretty amazing considering they're encompassing the opinions of a third of a billion people. Even in the last election when they were "wrong" they were pretty close. Just out of curiosity, if you're not going to use polls how would you have any idea at all what the outcome of upcoming election would be? Everybody would just look at people around then and figure their candidate was going to get about 80% of the vote sine people self-segregate politically.
I don't think I said the polls predicted an electoral win for Clinton.... I said most of them predicted she would win the Presidency.
Know what I think we'll see bamaEER?
Zero based budgeting. Line item veto. Devolution of spending from Washington D.C. back to States via block grant funding. Cost/benefit analysis. ROI amortization schedules. Economies of scale forecasting. Competitive bidding. Private Outsourcing. Program life cycles with specific end dates to determine their future existence. Marginal cost structures. Program allocation justifications. Across the board spending reductions with defined targeted savings goals. Balanced budgets.
In short, many if not all of the common private fiduciary business practices that CFO's and financial business planners are forced to follow to maintain their own company's fiscal solvency will be introduced into the Executive's budgeting proposals for Congress to consider. Trump has hired people specifically dedicated to this approach, because that's what he knows.
Trump is operating from a different paradigm. He's not a typical politician looking to cut favors for his donors or enhance power for himself through confiscatory taxation of the people's money.
He will run the Government like any large complex business, with the same fiscal discipline and toward the same objectives for the shareholders (we taxpayers).
He will encounter much resistance from those who are entrenched and dependent on Government largess to perpetuate their wasteful existence, but Trump was hired by the American people to clean up that cesspool in Washington D.C. and if you agree that swamp needs to be drained then you will not be disappointed once he's finished taking his scalpel to Uncle Sam's bloated gut.
This is probably one of the main reasons he's so hated by the corrupt Media and the corrupt political establishment they protect.
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That's not what polls predict. They (polls) predicted she'd win the national vote (she did). Pollsters, media whores, poll aggregators etc predicted the Presidency.
Op2, why do I need a "poll" to tell me how to vote or how my vote will turn out?
That's the problem. The Media uses polls to predict behavior or try to influence results. The only poll that matters is the one on election day. I'd favor elimination of using them as a predictor of a final result, as they are used now. It's OK to poll to see where sentiment is running, no problem with that. But stop reporting it as "fact" or 'inevitable" or even to predict policy. That is not only wrong, but not how representative Government should function.
Most polls show Americans opposed to Abortion and Gay Marriage. Almost every poll taken on those two issues, shows majorities in favor of Traditional Marriage and Life of the unborn. When they are put to a vote among States, they almost always win. Then Leftists run off to some Liberal Judge to get the voting results overturned or delayed or they seek injunctive relief.
Many other polls show Blacks highly in support of school choice vouchers. The Left ignores them. There was a poll just this week indicating 80% of Americans favor active enforcement of our nation's immigration Laws. The Media ignored it.
Those pre-election Presidential polls were used to suggest Trump had no chance, and had already lost. They were all wrong. We don't need the polls to do anything more than gauge public opinion--not suggest public preference for policy which is how they are promoted by the vast majority of those in Radio and T-V news.
So you want to ban polls? What other speech do you want to ban?
Do you know of any other method that could have better predicted the last election? The polls in the last election were way better than anything else but they just seemed bad because they were worse than polls usually are. Polls are so good that when they're not good they stand out. Without them how would you have any idea what the election was going to be like? I mean, without polls you could have been guessing 75-25 Hilary or 60-40 Trump or whatever. You'd have no idea if you were even in the ballpark.