POLL: Your Choice for Next PSU Head Coach?
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Pretty much the entire game day stadium experience needs a refresh!
I thought Pegula had a parting of ways with PSU? Wasn’t there a perceived riff with the PSU higher ups talked about on this board?
Good lord. This is so tone deaf. How often over the years before Franklin did PSU beat OSU and Michigan?
I’m scratching Rhule based on dress. Pocket square is the exact same pattern as his tie . Screams Kohl’s.Franklin had drip .
He attracts top QB talent? The kid is there because of his dad and uncle, not Rhule.
Don’t forget he lost to both Marshall and Northern Illinois!!If Freeman loses enough at nd, we should be able to get him cheap.
Keeneland race track, in Lexington, KY had no announcer until 1996. It was really a great experience just having the natural crowd noise .MAKE. SOME. NOIIIIIIIIZE.
can you update choices News: Eliah Drinkwitz contract has been extended through the 2029 season.
If Urban is interested and told Kraft, Kraft would be an idiot (should be fired) if he does not pursue Meyer. Meyer is the only name out there, other than Saban, that's truly available (I guess you could go after Kirby Smart or Dabo but I doubt either is interested in leaving their current gig) and has experience winning a championship in the playoff. My God, if Urban wants "come to Penn Shtaaate," if it were me, I couldn't have the contract drawn up fast enough.
If the "donors" want a return to "tradition," why not persuade Penn State "leadership" to honor Paterno? I mean, he is the only coach that ever won a national championship (two in fact) coaching Penn State.
I like Rhule having been a Joe Paterno product, but at the same time, that doesn't automatically make him "the best for the job." Guess I don't understand what the donors really see in him unless they think the current situation at PSU is so bad that it needs a "rebuild" that Rhule is famous for.
Looks like another bonus payday ahead . Franklin and/or Kraft should be getting some nice Christmas presents
Soon will need to scratch Kiffin off the list of potentials
Soon will need to scratch Kiffin off the list of potentials
Kraft is playing 3D chess. JF needed a break. This year was not going to be the year. Fire him, everyone pays their coach way more than they should. Then when the season is over hire JF back as coach.Kraft:
Mullen supposedly said no to smoked meats and Arkansas. Must have his eyes set on a bigger prize.
Maybe he’ll expand his spending more into PSU football in his seemingly longful pursuit to have one of his own (daughter, Bills, PSU hockey) win an ultimate championship.
Yes. It has been the same thing over and over again. The blaring music etc... It is stale.
Cignetti wouldn't be here for the long haul. He's 64 yrs old. He would need to be training someone in the wings. Much like I suggest with Urban.
There is nothing in Rhule's history that suggests he could captain a national champion. His only qualification, in my mind, is that he is from Penn State. That's not enough for me. If he wasn't a PSU guy, he wouldn't even be discussed as an option.
Under Paterno between 94 and 11, PSU beat OSU 7 times (94, 97, 99, 01, 05, 08 and 11).
It’s awful and annoying, and just so antithetical to a college game day experience.MAKE. SOME. NOIIIIIIIIZE.
Bingo. The record wasn’t great but way better than Franklin’s. At least we beat them
once every 3 years.
I have never seen a program struggle so much getting the ball downfield to receivers and it started before the current OC.
While true, tOSU teams of that timeframe generally were not as successful as the tOSU teams since Urban took over in ‘14.
There will not be a quick turnaround for this program. A gutted 26 class will set the program back as well as the mass exodus of existing players. Personally, I do not see any players with NFL aspirations hanging around for a rebuild.
The program needs an energetic young coach with knowledge of PSU's recruiting footprint. Rhule, despite his ties to PSU, is not an upgrade from Franklin. If Kraft is all in on him it is nothing more than nepotism. Clark Lea has done miracle level work at Vandy, but how Pavia dependent is this success? Also, he is a Vandy grad, I do not see him moving north. Matt Campbell fits the bill, for me. He is from Ohio, is young, energetic and capable. Names like Kiffin are pipe dreams. He is not leaving the SEC and a competitive if not an elite program to rebuild what is no more than a dumpster fire and an impatient fan base.
The program needs an energetic young coach with knowledge of PSU's recruiting footprint. Rhule, despite his ties to PSU, is not an upgrade from Franklin. If Kraft is all in on him it is nothing more than nepotism. Clark Lea has done miracle level work at Vandy, but how Pavia dependent is this success? Also, he is a Vandy grad, I do not see him moving north. Matt Campbell fits the bill, for me. He is from Ohio, is young, energetic and capable. Names like Kiffin are pipe dreams. He is not leaving the SEC and a competitive if not an elite program to rebuild what is no more than a dumpster fire and an impatient fan base.
Stop being dramatic...the portal which salvage this. Recruiting classes no longer have the same impact.
If you're Kiffin wouldn't you want to play in an easier conference?
But there's a ton of good names. Franklin just lost to NW and UCLA. A reset was needed. He wasn't good enough. Let's enjoy the ride even if it's a bad year next year. 2026 was going to be rough regardless
I like Campbell a lot, and I’m convinced he makes us a more discipline program. Does he have a ceiling that is higher than Franklin? That’s impossible to tell and he might not, but I do not think he would let the program go into a dumpster fire. I do think that Sumrall and Golesh deserve very thorough evaluations. I know they are higher risk coming out group of 5, but they both are rapidly rising stars with deep ties to the fertile recruiting areas of the south.
They won a NC in 2002, and I imagine their record during that time under Cooper and Tressel was very good but, yeah, Mayer took them to an upper tier SEC level.
I agree that Sumrall and Golesh deserve consideration. As you said, there is risk, as Florida found out with Napier. Going from success in the Sun Belt to the SEC is not an easy one, even with excellent QB recruiting. Cambell's ceiling is unknown, but his floor is higher, given what he has accomplished at Iowa State
Dramatic? You need to put down the blue colored glasses. If you are looking for an immediate improvement you are not paying attention. The portal may mitigate things a bit but it will not fix the recruiting and roster losses. Unless the next coach brings their entire staff and players with them (Cignetti at Indiana) you will likely be looking at something comparable to what is going on at FSU for the immediate future (which is surrounded by MUCH better talent than PSU).
No, If I were Kiffin I would not leave a stable program where I am paid well and am successful to rebuild a dumpster fire. Kiffin is not going to put up with any of the ******** that surrounds Penn State football,
Franklin is a good not great coach. He will be successful elsewhere, but given the toxicity of everything surrounding the program he did need to move on.
Point is this: Penn State can do a lot worse than Franklin and if you think the next coach thinking about a move is not weighing the fact that Penn State fired the coach that made the final four the year before you are thinking like a PSU homer.
We will see how this plays out.
But let me ask this question. Given that 26 and 27 are gutted in terms of recruiting and the current roster will likely be depleted, what are your realistic expectations for the next 3 years
Hence, why I wrote generally.
In 8 of the 18 seasons in the timeframe listed, tOSU lost at least 3 games. In two of the years PSU won, tOSU finished with a .500 or worse record, and in only one of them did tOSU finish with as little as 2 losses.
Most definitely. They haven’t finished with more than 2 losses since, they just stepped up to another level.
Look. I’ll admit that Paterno had more wins than Franklin against OSU and Michigan, but it still wasn’t very good. It certainly wasn’t much better and it wasn’t consistent winning. 3-6 vs Tressel (33% winning pct), 2-9 vs Lloyd Carr (22%), 3-6 vs Kirk Ferentz (33%). He had a 9 game losing streak to Michigan at one point. Again, Joe was a great coach but those are the hard numbers. People can twist them however they like.
Why would 2027 be gutted as a recruiting class? The new coach is going to have a year to fill that class and, if he’s an existing head coach who will bring his staff with him, he’s probably going to be able to switch the verbal commitments of several of his recruits.
Also, pardon me for being skeptical, but we’re watching a lot of Franklin’s recruits right now and they don’t look so good. I don’t care how highly the 2027 verbals were ranked, my guess is that those players just would’ve played on teams that would’ve continued to lose to OSU, Oregon and ND.
Technically, 2011 doesn’t count. Tom Bradley was the interim coach for that game. He beat a 6-7 Ohio St team with Luke Fickell as a fill in after Tressel was fired. The best thing Bradley did for that game was to tell Jay to stop playing Rob Bolden. So, let’s look at Paterno vs Ohio State from 1993 when they began B1G play. Paterno beat OSU 6 times in 18 years. That’s a winning pct of 33%. Better than Franklin? Yes. Worth claiming we were beating OSU consistently? No. Occasionally? Yes.