Pope will have more than enough NIL money

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I would think that kind of money would be generating more interest and buzz amongst portal guys, recruits and the players still on our roster.

So far, there isn't much buzz other than the couple of guys that decommitted from BYU.

The problem for Pope is going to be keeping the fans interested and excited if he struggles to bring players in that can compete within the first couple seasons. Not having a lot of experience and connections with high level recruiting is going to be the thing he has to overcome to make it work for him at UK.
 

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If he does decide to stay, which I don't think he will, Reed will be able to get all he wants on his own without dipping into the main NIL fund. He will be able to command his own pool of NIL by being a KY kid and most likely a preseason all American. If he is still being projected as a top 5 pick or even a top 10 pick I just think its going to be a really hard decision financially to turn that down. I would love more than anything to see him lead this charge next year, but I also will perfectly understand if he goes pro. It will be really hard for him to improve his draft stock by coming back another year.
I think anyone getting excited or even considering the possibility of a Reed return are setting themselves up for massive disappointment.

I get Reed loves UK, but a guaranteed lottery pick worth $25 - 30 million over 4 - 5 years is going to win out. Turning that down to return for a new head coach with very limited tournament and draft success, to play with a brand new team that's being put together from scratch in mid-April just isn't a logical decision.

And it's not like Reed is the type that will be projected high no matter what. He went from being a person most people questioned would ever be drafted to a lottery pick in 1 season. Again, that isn't something you risk if you don't have to.

The other issue is how weak this draft is. It's being considered the weakest ever. Why wouldn’t you take advantage instead of risking seeing your stock slip in a better draft?
 

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I heard somewhere between $5 to $8 million when it's all said and done.

Reed would gobble up about half of that.

We're going to have to live off the portal more than any blue blood due to the bare cupboard right now, but that might be a good thing.
Reed is not going to gobble up half of that. And I still think he leaves. It's the smarter thing for him to do.
 

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I think anyone getting excited or even considering the possibility of a Reed return are setting themselves up for massive disappointment.

I get Reed loves UK, but a guaranteed lottery pick worth $25 - 30 million over 4 - 5 years is going to win out. Turning that down to return for a new head coach with very limited tournament and draft success, to play with a brand new team that's being put together from scratch in mid-April just isn't a logical decision.

And it's not like Reed is the type that will be projected high no matter what. He went from being a person most people questioned would ever be drafted to a lottery pick in 1 season. Again, that isn't something you risk if you don't have to.

The other issue is how weak this draft is. It's being considered the weakest ever. Why wouldn’t you take advantage instead of risking seeing your stock slip in a better draft?
Keep reaching.
 

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If this is true, he will have more than enough NIL money to filled up the roster and be a solid team next season.

How much NIL did Cal have? I saw somewhere he was working with ~$4-5 million. We matched that with the two donors and their $4 million on day one.

$20,000,000 is no small number.
 

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I would think that kind of money would be generating more interest and buzz amongst portal guys, recruits and the players still on our roster.

So far, there isn't much buzz other than the couple of guys that decommitted from BYU.

The problem for Pope is going to be keeping the fans interested and excited if he struggles to bring players in that can compete within the first couple seasons. Not having a lot of experience and connections with high level recruiting is going to be the thing he has to overcome to make it work for him at UK.
I would think you smell like another new troll posing as a UK fan.
 

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I'd willing to go out on a limb and say you're still going to need assistants and coaches with deep roots, something Barnhardt could have never seen coming.
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I’m hoping beyond hope that Reed decides to return. He would be the centerpiece
That being said, I cannot blame him in the least and will be disappointed, but not upset, if he goes. And I certainly won’t be surprised if he chooses the NBA. Just hoping…
And I think that’s where the majority of fans are. We want him back but we do understand if that’s not the path he chooses
 
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I heard somewhere between $5 to $8 million when it's all said and done.

Reed would gobble up about half of that.

We're going to have to live off the portal more than any blue blood due to the bare cupboard right now, but that might be a good thing.
Just for 1 year, since such a late start. The following year should be the same amount as other top programs. But I also think our NIL drops next year too.
 

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It must be exhausting going through life thinking you're be trolled everytime you hear something you don’t want to hear or disagree with.
The trolls are obvious at this point. We normally have a handful during the season but they've come out of the woodwork this week. My question is why waste your time? You have to be an absolute no life to take the time signing up to an opposing teams message board just to pretend to be a fan so you can throw digs at the program and/or fanbase. Go outside.
 

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There is something else to consider as an advantage that Pope has that Cal didn't have. Pope was hired with MB's blessing instead of looking at others who many would say more qualified coaches ( personally I think it was the perfect hire). He really really wants him to succeed. So, if there is anything or anyone he needs Mitch is going to try to get it for him.
 
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I'd willing to go out on a limb and say you're still going to need assistants and coaches with deep roots, something Barnhardt could have never seen coming.

Exactly. Who's going to hire this staff? We're told a former player will be on it but idk who is qualified (if that matters).

We hired a good coach that has zero recruiting relationships. None. He isn't even in position to know who he should know..
 
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I think Pope will take some good , solid players, and coach the hell out of them. He will make adjustments and players will play free and loose. Something we haven't seen in years. I'm damn looking forward to it, and am ready to support Pope.
I watched all of the BYU/Kansas game and one thing stood out above the rest of the factors: how many rebounds his scrappy band of misfits got. Yes, BYU played loose. But if I'm a rival coach, I'm going to find out how he teaches rebounding.

NOT his offense or his schemes. Rebounding. There's no way his shorter guys should have got that many offensive rebounds. (Yes, that could have been a one-off lucky game where one team got the bounces.)
 
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I watched all of the BYU/Kansas game and one thing stood out above the rest of the factors: how many rebounds his scrappy band of misfits got. Yes, BYU played loose. But if I'm a rival coach, I'm going to find out how he teaches rebounding.

NOT his offense or his schemes. Rebounding. There's no way his shorter guys should have got that many offensive rebounds. (Yes, that could have been a one-off lucky game where one team got the bounces.)
Love a scrappy team.
 

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I would think that kind of money would be generating more interest and buzz amongst portal guys, recruits and the players still on our roster.

So far, there isn't much buzz other than the couple of guys that decommitted from BYU.

The problem for Pope is going to be keeping the fans interested and excited if he struggles to bring players in that can compete within the first couple seasons. Not having a lot of experience and connections with high level recruiting is going to be the thing he has to overcome to make it work for him at UK.
This is why winning 20+ games, getting a 3-6 seed is important in year 1. Need to shake off the national narrative of “KY failed to hire their guy and got turned down” instead of it being that we offered 2 and went to Pope. These kids don’t know anything about him they just know the knee jerk “Calipari is gone and KY is dead”. If he can have a decent year one and show that we aren’t suddenly Vandy. Show the Nation the offense and system. Be a fun to to watch….now you’ve got a little momentum and have a full recruiting cycle and portal cycle. They’ll come year 2 if you don’t completely bomb year 1. We just need to get enough to be competitive year 1
 

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I would think that kind of money would be generating more interest and buzz amongst portal guys, recruits and the players still on our roster.

So far, there isn't much buzz other than the couple of guys that decommitted from BYU.

The problem for Pope is going to be keeping the fans interested and excited if he struggles to bring players in that can compete within the first couple seasons. Not having a lot of experience and connections with high level recruiting is going to be the thing he has to overcome to make it work for him at UK.
He competed at BYU in the Big 12. Thinking he comes to UK with the recruiting restrictions he was under no longer an issue and not field a competitive team is just not based in reality. He will field more than competitive teams. The rub is those teams will look vastly different than they did during the cal era. Not sure some of our fan base is going to accept that you don’t have to have a top ranked recruiting class to be successful. Cal did/does to be even remotely successful and even then that is fading fast. Going to be awesome having a real coach on the sidelines. Calling cal a coach is an embarrassment to the profession.
 

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I can at least begin to guess what Pope's first Kentucky roster might look like, more or less.

Ugonna Onyenso
Ali Khalifa
Justin Burks
Fousseyni Traore
Trevin Knell
Jaxson Robinson
Dallin Hall
Travis Perry

Possibilities:
Boogie Fland
Aden Holloway
Brody Koslowski
Isaac Davis
Collin Chandler
Liam McNeeley
Jonas Aidoo
Marcus Adams
Brooks Bahr
 

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I heard somewhere between $5 to $8 million when it's all said and done.

Reed would gobble up about half of that.

We're going to have to live off the portal more than any blue blood due to the bare cupboard right now, but that might be a good thing.
If they're comparing it to Georgia football, it's going to be more $ than that which is amazing
 

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Pope is very intelligent. He has been coaching as a head coach or assistant for about 15 years. So he KNOWS about recruiting. People act like he has been in a bubble and "just rolls the ball out". BUT BUT he hasn't been signing elite talent! How could he at Utah Valley or strict BYU? He will do fine. The more I study the man, the more I like this hire. I agree though, he has to assemble a great staff.
 
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Well no wonder we had some of the poorly constructed rosters we had the last few seasons if the rumors about lack of NIL were true.

No excuses not to put together dominant teams every season going forward. I know year 1 is transition so some allowances are made but with these NIL amounts a final four and title within 3 years is expected.
 

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All that NIl money doesn't seem to be keeping any of our players on roster does it?
Bunch of crap hiring a unproven recruiter.
 

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I can at least begin to guess what Pope's first Kentucky roster might look like, more or less.

Ugonna Onyenso
Ali Khalifa
Justin Burks
Fousseyni Traore
Trevin Knell
Jaxson Robinson
Dallin Hall
Travis Perry

Possibilities:
Boogie Fland
Aden Holloway
Brody Koslowski
Isaac Davis
Collin Chandler
Liam McNeeley
Jonas Aidoo
Marcus Adams
Brooks Bahr
Who's Justin Burks? Jordan's brother
 

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Unless I'm misunderstanding all the talk of $5 or $8 million or whatever the number is not "all there is". So when someone says " well half of that would have to go to Reed", that's not the way it works. The NIL pool set aside from boosters and NIL groups like Code Blue is a separate thing with no requirement to do anything other than stay eligible. That doesn't even begin to tap into potential money made from doing commercial work, special appearances and the like. The amount for a popular player is potentially astronomically more.